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Old Posted Sep 3, 2019, 11:30 PM
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The changes to the Ontario line are apparently expected to significantly reduce the depth of the stations as well, which is a great thing. Toronto’s newest subway extensions can take a solid couple of minutes to reach platform level, compared to the old stations which can have you at platform level from grade in a matter of seconds.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 3, 2019, 11:45 PM
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In wonder if the use of low-floor stock was also just a cost saving measure? High platforms with high floor vehicles like Calgary and original Edmonton systems) not only provides more usable space but can also help reduce maintenance costs since apparently there's less wear on the wheels.
No, it's because when they started construction on phase 1/bought the trains, it was still up in the air if stage 2 would have any street running or not, and the city opted to buy a train that would work for either choice.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 4, 2019, 8:22 PM
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No, it's because when they started construction on phase 1/bought the trains, it was still up in the air if stage 2 would have any street running or not, and the city opted to buy a train that would work for either choice.
Maybe, but that still doesn't tell us why they would think that high floor vehicles won't work if there's a street running section? Calgary, and Manchester both have street running sections using high floor vehicles.
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Old Posted Sep 4, 2019, 8:24 PM
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Video I made talking about why I think Confederation Line opening is the biggest event since the opening of the SkyTrain in '86 (we're soon to have 4 metro systems)



https://youtu.be/HQWSw7MrGmg
Which begs the question...……….why aren't they calling it a Metro in the first place? Using LRT technology is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is that it's grade separated.
     
     
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Which begs the question...……….why aren't they calling it a Metro in the first place? Using LRT technology is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is that it's grade separated.
The official names are "O-Train" and Confederation and Trillium Lines. I have a feeling that the colloquial term is going to be "Metro" or "Subway" or "Train" in due course. I've already heard plenty of francophones call it "Metro".
     
     
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The official names are "O-Train" and Confederation and Trillium Lines. I have a feeling that the colloquial term is going to be "Metro" or "Subway" or "Train" in due course. I've already heard plenty of francophones call it "Metro".
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The official names are "O-Train" and Confederation and Trillium Lines. I have a feeling that the colloquial term is going to be "Metro" or "Subway" or "Train" in due course. I've already heard plenty of francophones call it "Metro".
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The "O".
Métro Train

though I don’t think that makes sense grammatically
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New Trillium Line rolling stock (Stadler Flirts) and livery. The current Alstom Lints will continue to serve the Trillium Line as doubles (2x2) on the main line and singles (2) on the Airport link.


https://twitter.com/OTrainFans613/status/1171436168358977543
     
     
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New Trillium Line rolling stock (Stadler Flirts) and livery. The current Alstom Lints will continue to serve the Trillium Line as doubles (2x2) on the main line and singles (2) on the Airport link.


https://twitter.com/OTrainFans613/status/1171436168358977543
Now I finally get what y’all have meant by singles and doubles.
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The Maple Leaf is pretty gaudy - can you imagine if the Tube had a Union Flag blazoned over each end? But the train looks good. Nice to see a train here that doesn't look like a tank, it boggles the mind though how that isn't electrified.

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The Maple Leaf is pretty gaudy - can you imagine if the Tube had a Union Flag blazended over each end? But the train looks good. Nice to see a train here that doesn't look like a tank, it boggles the mind though how that isn't electrified.
The Maple Leaf has been part of OC Transpo's branding for around 20 years. I also would have preferred something simpler, similar to what was shown in earlier Confederation Line renderings:


http://www.transitottawa.ca/2013/08/confederation-line-stations-should-be.html

The new Trillium trains are more tank-ish than the previous models, both sporting Deutsche Bahn colours:

Bombardier Talent (2001-2015)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillium_Line

Alstom Lint 41 (2015)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillium_Line

The new Stadler can easily be converted to electric when the City chooses to do so. The lack of electrification is understandable. The biggest question is why the City opted to double the length of the platforms/trains instead of double tracking the line in order to increase the frequency from the current, and post-Stage 2, 12 minutes.
     
     
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The Maple Leaf is pretty gaudy - can you imagine if the Tube had a Union Flag blazended over each end? .
Surely you've lived in Canada long enough to get used to the garish use of the maple leaf here, there and everywhere?
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I didn't know they could be converted, just read up on how they're doing it and it's pretty smart.
     
     
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Surely you've lived in Canada long enough to get used to the garish use of the maple leaf here, there and everywhere?
Oh you betcha bud. I especially love some of the new street furniture here in Calgary shaped as bright red maple leaves. In a place a thousand or so kilometers from their natural growing environment.
     
     
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Well the maple leaf isn't the whole national flag but rather one important element of it. An element that was selected for the flag because it was already a national symbol. It must be noted that the tube does use the union jack colour palette which is one element of their flag as well. Or perhaps it had nothing to do with the flag and they selected three colours totally randomly because they just thought they looked nice?
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Surely you've lived in Canada long enough to get used to the garish use of the maple leaf here, there and everywhere?

It's definitely gotten to the point of overkill. Look no further than the giant maple leaves of Concord's Canada House condos that will soon grace our skyline:






Or the maple leaf pavers all along the waterfront:






And so on. It's a cheap design gimmick - one that seems most commonly done by international architects and developers, ironically enough. I think that's we call "pandering".
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It seems that the TTC is considering (more like longing for) platform screen doors, but it seems that there's no funding.

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So, with the election called, which party will promise the most transit related things?
     
     
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