YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[nname]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

I watched Craig’s board of trade speech and they were quite clear that using buses is going to be a norm as it is becoming increasingly like that at airports around the world.

So that’s the reason they’re not spending more on that part of the terminal expansion.

I don't even think they will need as much bus operation this year compared to last year, due to the new temporary gate D62, the reduced gate use for PR due to the removal of MNL-YVR-YYZ service, as well as moving service like AMS into late afternoon.

Even less for next year (so far), as MNL-YVR-JFK will be cancelled and all MNL service will be at night time.

[LeftCoaster]

Well Philippines do have their unused 5th freedom flight allowances so I'd imagine those cancelled JFK frequencies are going to go into a new flight, so probably net neutral for next year. Not to mention that there will likely be new routes announced for next year (fingers crossed!).

[zahav]

I noticed China Southern has switched aircraft again for the summer. Was 777, 787, and now A330. Checking Wikpiedia, their A330 fleet has a zillion configurations and capacities. It will not have first class, so that means it will have between 258-286 passengers. It also doesn't say whether it's 330-200 or -300 lol, so I'm not sure! Anyone know a way to find out?

Regardless which configuration, it is a capacity increase over the 788!

[Cage]

Originally Posted by deasine

I think Air Canada's attempt is unusual. Without reading the information, as a consumer, I wouldn't know if they are using this as an adjective or a service, and if it is a service, then how does this distinguish between Concierge and Signature. AC isn't being consistent either as Business Class and Signature Class is often used interchangeably (try booking a ticket). I think there's a bit of work needed to make this a real value add to the industry.

Signature is the premium brand name for Air Canada:
- Signature Service is all the ground based stuff: exclusive checkin, concierge personnel, fancy car for tight connections,
- Signature Class is the onboard product and services available on wide body aircraft. This includes the seat, the meal, etc.
- Signature Lounge is a combination link between the aircraft and the ground services. Pax get a made to order meal and much wider selection of beverages than what can be loaded onto the airplane. Once airborne, the pax get as much sleep as possible by skipping the onboard meal service. The pax can get a light breakfast close to arrival or they can get a meal in the arrival lounge if flying into LHR.

Tip of the hat to AC team coordinating the rebrand to Signature. They did all the tough work under the old brand of International Business Class. This in contrast to UA who released Polaris far too soon before the kinks were worked out.

The YVR connection to this thread. Full rollout of the Signature brand (e.g. lounge, car ride, all the bells and whistles) works very well on the TransPac services and lengthy TransAt flights.

[deasine]

Originally Posted by Cage

Signature is the premium brand name for Air Canada:
- Signature Service is all the ground based stuff: exclusive checkin, concierge personnel, fancy car for tight connections,
- Signature Class is the onboard product and services available on wide body aircraft. This includes the seat, the meal, etc.
- Signature Lounge is a combination link between the aircraft and the ground services. Pax get a made to order meal and much wider selection of beverages than what can be loaded onto the airplane. Once airborne, the pax get as much sleep as possible by skipping the onboard meal service. The pax can get a light breakfast close to arrival or they can get a meal in the arrival lounge if flying into LHR.

Tip of the hat to AC team coordinating the rebrand to Signature. They did all the tough work under the old brand of International Business Class. This in contrast to UA who released Polaris far too soon before the kinks were worked out

Technically the Signature Service refers to the entire end-to-end experience and not just for ground services (according to the website). And there's still quite a bit of the website that doesn't necessarily refer to the Signature Class Cabin but simply Business Class.

Again I don't have an issue with branding, but it needs to be done carefully and consistently. I'd also argue the name itself should immediately give away what it is and I'm not sure just "Signature" would be immediately apparent to the general consumer.

Way better than "Delta One" or "United Polaris" - I'm not sure why anyone would sign those names off in the first place.

Originally Posted by Cage

The YVR connection to this thread. Full rollout of the Signature brand (e.g. lounge, car ride, all the bells and whistles) works very well on the TransPac services and lengthy TransAt flights.

Unless it's under way right now, which may be the case, there is no Signature Suite at YVR. Only in YYZ, which really should be the launch given the evening/night TATL flights to Europe to maximize sleep.

BA excelled at this in JFK with their supper service so that customers can maximize their sleep when they land in the morning in LHR in time for work.

[CloudInspector]

Icelandair is boosting YVR to 4 weekly next winter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/airlineroute/status/989863264476696578?s=12

[LeftCoaster]

Great news, went from 0 service last winter, to 2x per week this winter to 4x per week next winter.

Would love to see Iceland air daily at some point, I'm sure the demand is there if they had the additional frames.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by zahav

I noticed China Southern has switched aircraft again for the summer. Was 777, 787, and now A330. Checking Wikpiedia, their A330 fleet has a zillion configurations and capacities. It will not have first class, so that means it will have between 258-286 passengers. It also doesn't say whether it's 330-200 or -300 lol, so I'm not sure! Anyone know a way to find out?

Regardless which configuration, it is a capacity increase over the 788!

I think that's just a result of their system not having their new plane (the 787-9) uploaded into it. They announced the 789 as running the route now and if you check their website there is still no info on it so they're likely using an A330 as a proxy until they've updated the website.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by CloudInspector

Icelandair is boosting YVR to 4 weekly next winter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/airlineroute/status/989863264476696578?s=12

Yeah that’s a really positive sign. Knowing how seasonal YVR is to Europe FI is obviously happy enough with the route to double the capacity during the winter.

YVR-Europe will be up to 32 flights a week next winter to LHR, FRA, AMS, CDG and KEF. Still a huge reduction from summer flying but a step in the right direction.

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Yeah that’s a really positive sign. Knowing how seasonal YVR is to Europe FI is obviously happy enough with the route to double the capacity during the winter.

YVR-Europe will be up to 32 flights a week next winter to LHR, FRA, AMS, CDG and KEF. Still a huge reduction from summer flying but a step in the right direction.

FI has a decent O&D likely during the winter months as its actually a great time to visit Iceland. Versus more typical European destinations that are miles better in the spring/summer vs winter. Good for them for bumping up the capacity, just wish the timing of the flights were better.

[SpongeG]

April 29, not sure what they are doing been this way a couple months now

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[connect2source]

Mostly new bollards along the curb-side to replace the large concrete blocks there previously. You can clearly see them in the third photo just past the hoarding.

[connect2source]

Attention Spotters!! Lufthansa begins their A350 service to MUC tomorrow, May 1st, first one arrives at YVR at 4:35pm. it's Lufthansa's first A350 to visit YVR. I'm on that flight departing YVR Tuesday, in their new( ish ) Business Class product as well. I'll take some pics.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by connect2source

Mostly new bollards along the curb-side to replace the large concrete blocks there previously. You can clearly see them in the third photo just past the hoarding.

The concrete blocks were so cheap and temporary looking. Was wondering when YVR was going to use something that looked more refined

Speaking of these concrete blocks, is it one company that supplies them? I literally see them all over the lower mainland used for many different applications.

[casper]

Originally Posted by libtard

The concrete blocks were so cheap and temporary looking. Was wondering when YVR was going to use something that looked more refined

Speaking of these concrete blocks, is it one company that supplies them? I literally see them all over the lower mainland used for many different applications.

While they are at it they might as well take out the phone booth. Perhaps replace the bank of 5 with 1. Can't see them getting much use these days.

[SpongeG]

ok makes sense.

There was an Iceland Air plane sitting on the ground next to Terminal B last night next to the westjet domestic area. I tried to get a pic but didn't get any clear view of it.

[deasine]

Don't quote me, but I believe it's part of the construction project for the new parkade, which will include an overhead connection to the parkade and Canada Line station, removing the need for international passengers to have to cross an active roadway (causing congestion, which is a real problem as of late...).

[mezzanine]

new service of LH's new A350 from the seasonal from MUC. IIRC this is the first LH A350 to anywhere in north america...



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and this doesnt seem to raise an eye anymore, the summer return of BA's A380:



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[trofirhen]

The Airbus 380 is indeed impressive, but I think the 350 is more beautiful. (IMO the most beautiful passenger jet ever was the VC-10. Wish they'd make an updated version of that one)
Also, might Munich ever become year-round from YVR? (... one can always hope....)

[nname]

March Passenger Stat

Domestic: 987,586 (+6.9%)
International: 1,102,168 (+11.5%)

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Transborder: 533,801 (+6.0%)
Asia Pacific: 364,150 (+17.4%)
Europe: 88,646 (+1.7%)
Misc: 115,571 (+32.3%)

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Total: 2,089,754 (+9.3%)



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