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Old Posted May 4, 2024, 5:41 PM
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Money money money money..... money!


Colorado’s governor, legislature have spent 2024 trying to reshape RTD. Now they want to force it to complete its rail routes.

With $138M here and $50 from the car rental fee, there probably ~$125M in new funding coming to rail development in Colorado- which is absolutely dick for finishing the B Line.

The infuriating portion of this legislation is that RTD cannot reallocate funding from the FasTracks back to the bus system. However, if the RTD board was composed of individuals with some iota of critical thinking skills, they would start making the case that the money flowing in the FasTracks savings account for the B-Line is largely composed of cuts to the expansion of bus service that was supposed to come with the rail expansion. The B-Line for the rich white folks in Boulder is being put in front of increased bus frequency for the poor brown folks in Denver.

Hammer that message home and see what compromise pops up for combining the B-Line with Front Range Passenger rail while funding bus expansion as was promised under FasTracks.
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We probably all know the stories about why our street cars were removed. But I found this podcast quite interesting. Just about everything Roman Mars does on 99pi is interesting.
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What do people hear about CDOT's BRT initiative? What are your expectations for it?

I'm extremely intrigued at the prospect of a state DOT doing this. But I don't know much about it.

How's it different from what the local governments were already doing? Is it going to produce true BRT with good busways and good service, or the typical diet BRT that's just an incremental improvement over existing buses?

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Old Posted May 30, 2024, 3:12 PM
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Was all this stuff happening with the locals already, just with normal coordination with CDOT? Or has CDOT taken a leadership role in it somehow?

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BRT Updates:

East Colfax: Final Design is well underway. Making final decsions on a number of items including uncontrolled crossings, urban design, stations, etc. The funding stack is basically ready to go. RTD's contribution will be new artics (like 44 of them).

Federal: 30%/NEPA underway. Confirmation of LPA (side-running) is complete. Traffic analysis, Section 106, Station Locations, etc. all in process. CDOT has a decent chunck of change for ROW (likely at station locations) and Final Design. Still on pace for revenue service by December 31, 2029.

Colorado: Interviews for AA/NEPA/30% design took place a couple weeks ago. Should know who was selected soon. This will be an expedited process to meet project miletone goals. Determination of center-running/side-running is primary objective of AA. Still on pace for revenue service by December 31, 2029.

Far East Colfax: Led by DRCOG and will likely inclue AA and maybe NEPA/30%. This will be an extension of East Colfax BRT. RFP likely out mid-2024.
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Old Posted May 30, 2024, 4:10 PM
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Was all this stuff happening with the locals already, just with normal coordination with CDOT? Or has CDOT taken a leadership role in it somehow?
Going by who's proving the lion's share of the funding (whether directly or through appropriated grants) the Colfax BRT is a Denver project and the CO119 Diagonal is an RTD project (also known as the "shut up the whiners about the B Line extension" project).

The other projects are CDOT led BRT projects that are necessary for CDOT to meet CO2 emission reduction goals laid out in the state's Greenhouse Gas Transportation Plan- I can't recall the legislation, but I think it was enacted in 2021. CDOT ended up with $170M to build BRT lines that can be used to offset increased emissions coming from other highway expansion projects such as the Floyd Hill project.

Bunt or PLANSIT probably know more, but that's what I recall.
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The other projects are CDOT led BRT projects that are necessary for CDOT to meet CO2 emission reduction goals laid out in the state's Greenhouse Gas Transportation Plan- I can't recall the legislation, but I think it was enacted in 2021. CDOT ended up with $170M to build BRT lines that can be used to offset increased emissions coming from other highway expansion projects such as the Floyd Hill project.
So they are pursuing these the way they'd normally pursue a highway project? That is to say, the DOT decides what they want to do, and the local government is a stakeholder but ultimately at the DOT's mercy?

Just from a process perspective, big if true.
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Was all this stuff happening with the locals already, just with normal coordination with CDOT? Or has CDOT taken a leadership role in it somehow?
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Going by who's proving the lion's share of the funding (whether directly or through appropriated grants) the Colfax BRT is a Denver project and the CO119 Diagonal is an RTD project (also known as the "shut up the whiners about the B Line extension" project).

The other projects are CDOT led BRT projects that are necessary for CDOT to meet CO2 emission reduction goals laid out in the state's Greenhouse Gas Transportation Plan- I can't recall the legislation, but I think it was enacted in 2021. CDOT ended up with $170M to build BRT lines that can be used to offset increased emissions coming from other highway expansion projects such as the Floyd Hill project.

Bunt or PLANSIT probably know more, but that's what I recall.
Colfax is definitely a DOTI led project.

Federal blvd the AA was in process with DOTI when that GHG rule was established so DOTI finished, and CDOT is taking over with the NEPA over a larger area.

The GHG rule was also directed at regional planning entities like DRCOG to plan for reductions. Which is why DRCOG is taking charge on at least the initial planning for far east colfax.

Colorado Blvd is all CDOT, and I guess you could say it's being managed like a highway project.

The only thing I am aware of DOTI is studying right now for bus improvements is 38th which is not a CDOT road. https://denvergov.org/Government/Age...Corridor-Study

The GHG rule was part of sb260 and CDOT has a bunch of info on it here https://www.codot.gov/programs/envir.../greenhousegas
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So they are pursuing these the way they'd normally pursue a highway project? That is to say, the DOT decides what they want to do, and the local government is a stakeholder but ultimately at the DOT's mercy?

Just from a process perspective, big if true.
I think that's the case. For the Federal Blvd Project CDOT took the DENVER MOVES: Federal Transit Alternatives Analysis and used it to conduct the NEPA. Believe they're handling everything.
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Coincidentally a NY Times article came out today on the impact of the GHG rule on Colorado.

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In Colorado, that new vision was catalyzed by climate change. In 2019, Gov. Jared Polis signed a law that required the state to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 90 percent within 30 years. As the state tried to figure out how it would get there, it zeroed in on drivers. Transportation is the largest single contributor to greenhouse gas emissions in the United States, accounting for about 30 percent of the total; 60 percent of that comes from cars and trucks. To reduce emissions, Coloradans would have to drive less
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Speaking of RTD

It has been nothing but a Hot Mess over the last couple of years... but finally I am encouraged.

RTD Transit Police to start 24/7 patrols May 5
April 22 2024
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The department currently has 61 Colorado Peace Officers Standards and Training (POST)-certified officers. An additional 19 recruits are in the police academy and will graduate in May. Another 26 recruits are projected to attend the academy in July. The agency plans to grow to a minimum of 119 officers by the end of the year as part of its efforts to create a welcoming transit environment across the district’s entire service area....
Denver RTD is about a year behind Minneapolis who changed from private security companies to also hiring their own. While not perfect. they are pleased with the progress they've made to make their light rail more appealing and safer to ride. Apparently RTD will use more of a holistic approach but that's fine. Apparently just being visible should make a Big difference.


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Old Posted Jun 29, 2024, 12:12 AM
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Denver RTD get's high praise from the Urban Institute
(WMATA was also one of the 5 cities featured in the study)
It's a look-back from 2019 for 5 different city/agencies.

Surmounting the Fiscal Cliff
Identifying Stable Funding Solutions for Public Transportation Systems
November 2023 by Yonah Freemark and Lindiwe Rennert
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Denver RTD

Denver RTD experienced a relatively mild reduction in ridership at the onset of the pandemic. May 2020 hosted 35 percent of the ridership of May 2019 (compare that with BART at 7 percent and WMATA at 10 percent, for example).
This was interesting:
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RTD deferred over $100 million in capital and maintenance projects, made major staffing cuts—reducing its workforce by about 300 employees between March 2020 and January 2021—and reduced overall VRM by about 30 percent during the pandemic’s first two years.

RTD will not run out of federal COVID-19 aid until 2025. Unlike BART and WMATA, which chose to use their federal aid in part to return to full service levels as quickly as possible, RTD stockpiled the funds and committed instead to decreased service levels, in a sense creating a rainy-day fund. By the end of 2021, RTD had $350 million in federal aid remaining, equivalent to about half of a typical year of the agency’s operating budget. Also contributing to RTD’s comparatively calm fiscal situation is the fact that the agency collected more-than-anticipated sales tax revenue in 2022 and stockpiled over $127 million of those funds in 2021...
As I often say Politics is silly and stupid. But it can be highly relevant.

Project 2025 Would Increase Costs for Commuters, Defund Transit Maintenance, and Undermine Economic Growth
JUN 10, 2024 by Kevin DeGood - Center for American Progress (a liberal Think Tank)

Likely a wee bit overblown but the funding battles are to start following the July 4th recess in Congress.
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While not Denver, this can support easier transit around Summit County and connections from Bustang and Pegasus.

Summit Stage, Summit County’s free bus system, restores 30-minute service across various routes for first time since 2021. Officials say they’ve overcome staffing, fleet issues that have previously kept them from running buses more frequently.

http://www.summitdaily.com/news/summ...ee-bus-update/
I became very familiar with the Summit Stage but it was Pre-Covid so I really enjoyed catching up with the changes, 1st the reduced service challenges and now the upgrading. I also read the linked articles for employee housing, future plans etc.

We should also give a shout-out to RFTA - the Roaring Fork Transportation Authority as they do a great service between Aspen and Glenwood Springs.

Given wong's discussion (above) of new state revenue for transit both of these agencies should benefit from an allocation of more funding.
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