Manitoba Highways

[Dengler Avenue]

Twinning that section of Highway 1 would be easy if the government would just look at the simple solution and not some over the top solution.

Widen the existing roadway to 4 lanes and provide acceleration lanes and deacceleration lanes.

Provide adequate shoulders.

Provide adequate barriers from driving into rock faces or off a cliff.

Pour a solid concrete divider down the entire 17 kms stretch exactly like they did between Grant and Portage Avenue on the west perimeter.

I’m using MTO standard here but it may still be food for thought.
For divided 4 lanes with 22.5 m median, the width of the cross section is ~63 m.
For divided 4 lanes with a median barrier, the width of the cross section is ~45 m.
While 18 m may look like a huge difference, and while the terrain around Falcon Lake looks formidable, M.I.T. won’t be blasting significantly more rock by using a 22.5 m median, so the cost-saving there is insignificant. This is Canadian Shield, not the Rockies, after all.
Moreover, if we have to use a median barrier, for proper drainage, we will have to install sub-drains (i.e. manholes in the left shoulder).
Installing that will further reduce the said cost-saving. Plus, median barriers are technically speaking obstacles in themselves.
There’s a reason that the divided 4 lanes of TCH east of Thunder Bay have wide median instead of median barriers.
All said, I agree that the Welcome to Ontario part should be RIRO (right-in right-out) only.

Edit: See https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...234240&page=10 #194. I think @sonysnob is a geotechnical engineer.
Ps: I didn’t know that closed account could be a thing.

[rrskylar]

Highway 75 to get $61-million upgrade
2022-08-24 11:24:57
The province announced today $61 million to restore Highway 75 from Morris to Ste. Agathe.

The upgrades will improve the efficiency and reliability of Canada’s international and inter-provincial trade flows and make travel on Highway 75 safer for everyone, the province said in a press release. Work will include 27.7 kilometres of surface reconstruction, as well as shoulder, drainage and intersection improvements. The surface will be reconstructed using concrete pavement.

The province plans to advertise tenders for the two projects in the spring of 2023. Both projects are expected to be completed in the fall of 2023, it said.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Highway 75 to get $61-million upgrade
2022-08-24 11:24:57
The province announced today $61 million to restore Highway 75 from Morris to Ste. Agathe.

The upgrades will improve the efficiency and reliability of Canada’s international and inter-provincial trade flows and make travel on Highway 75 safer for everyone, the province said in a press release. Work will include 27.7 kilometres of surface reconstruction, as well as shoulder, drainage and intersection improvements. The surface will be reconstructed using concrete pavement.

The province plans to advertise tenders for the two projects in the spring of 2023. Both projects are expected to be completed in the fall of 2023, it said.

I was happy to see this, but man... I was driving home from Gimli on the weekend and there is a stretch of PTH 8 near St. Andrews where there is almost no shoulder, it drops off from pavement, to a few inches of gravel, then straight into the ditch. Awful for a 4-lane road, and very dangerous. I would love to see that get some attention.

This is what I'm talking about:

https://goo.gl/maps/YhNv7awUM9LMYW6F7

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

The province announced today $61 million to restore Highway 75 from Morris to Ste. Agathe.

The upgrades will improve the efficiency and reliability of Canada’s international and inter-provincial trade flows and make travel on Highway 75 safer for everyone, the province said in a press release. Work will include 27.7 kilometres of surface reconstruction, as well as shoulder, drainage and intersection improvements. The surface will be reconstructed using concrete pavement.

That section, especially southbound, is terrible with chunks of concrete shed onto the roadway from the expansion joints. Plenty of folks did damage to their vehicles driving it this year.

[thurmas]

With 75 so vital to the economy i don't understand why the province continues to cheap out on flood protection for it

[Wpgstvsouth94]

Originally Posted by thurmas

With 75 so vital to the economy i don't understand why the province continues to cheap out on flood protection for it

100 percent!

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Highway 75 to get $61-million upgrade
2022-08-24 11:24:57
The province announced today $61 million to restore Highway 75 from Morris to Ste. Agathe.

The upgrades will improve the efficiency and reliability of Canada’s international and inter-provincial trade flows and make travel on Highway 75 safer for everyone, the province said in a press release. Work will include 27.7 kilometres of surface reconstruction, as well as shoulder, drainage and intersection improvements. The surface will be reconstructed using concrete pavement.

The province plans to advertise tenders for the two projects in the spring of 2023. Both projects are expected to be completed in the fall of 2023, it said.

Does this include a new bypass around Morris?

[WildCake]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Does this include a new bypass around Morris?

If it included a Bypass that would be the headline, and reconstruction would be the add on detail list. A Morris bypass will also cost much more than 61 million

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by WildCake

If it included a Bypass that would be the headline, and reconstruction would be the add on detail list. A Morris bypass will also cost much more than 61 million

Morris just needs to be moved to another location, one that doesn't flood so often and doesn't block HWY 75. Those people won't mind.

[bomberjet]

Lol that stretch is funny. The SB lanes nearer the City.

That 75 re-construction will be to the cheapo level of flood protection. Ie: letting it flood and using PR 23 as a detour.

[optimusREIM]

Yeah that part near St. Andrews is rather sketchy to drive. We definitely need upgrades to many parts of our highway network. I’d say at minimum proper shoulders on all PTHs and definitely limited access on 75 and most of the TCH

[esquire]

The province did a good job with shoulders on the TCH, 75 and the Yellowhead. The shoulders of PTH 8 north of St. Andrews Airport are in fine shape. I can't believe that stretch of PTH 8 near West St. Paul is still so deficient after all these years, though.

[bomberjet]

uh, no.

[esquire]

Morris bypass will be a huge undertaking by Manitoba standards. There will probably be a 40-year plan unveiled to tackle that one.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by esquire

Morris bypass will be a huge undertaking by Manitoba standards. There will probably be a 40-year plan unveiled to tackle that one.

They should really get on that. 75 is a huge transport highway. The bypass would pay for itself in 20 years.

[The Jabroni]

I have a better idea, but unfortunately, that will also trigger World War 3 from the least likely place in the world.

[zalf]

Originally Posted by The Jabroni

I have a better idea, but unfortunately, that will also trigger World War 3 from the least likely place in the world.

"New York Times: Andorra declares extensive nuclear weapons program - animosity to rural Manitoba cited"

[The Jabroni]

Originally Posted by zalf

"New York Times: Andorra declares extensive nuclear weapons program - animosity to rural Manitoba cited"

[WestEndWander]

For the amount of traffic and money travelling northward on 59 from June to October I'm always surprised as to the condition of the road once you pass East Selkirk.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by WestEndWander

For the amount of traffic and money travelling northward on 59 from June to October I'm always surprised as to the condition of the road once you pass East Selkirk.

Once past the Grand Beach turnoff the road is pretty good.