London Roads - Page 64

jammer139 · #**1261** Posted **Sep 12, 2020, 3:39 PM**

Phase 1 of the Dundas St construction is still in the digging phase.

http://www.london.ca/residents/Roads-Tra...-road-projects/Pages/OldEastVillage.aspx

jammer139 · #**1262** Posted **Sep 18, 2020, 5:46 PM**

Base coat and concrete curbs now done on Richmond St between York and King. Intersection of Richmond and King is still a hole in the ground and none of the sidewalks our done as they continue working along the them. Looks like they are prepping for top coat along York as they have raised the manhole covers.

Djeffery · #**1263** Posted **Sep 22, 2020, 1:23 AM**

York was actually paved over the weekend. Lines weren't complete early this morning when I went in to work.

Djeffery · #**1264** Posted **Sep 26, 2020, 5:04 PM**

Traffic signals are being installed at Riverbend and Oxford, the intersection where McDonalds is. They are the temporary kind, hung across the intersection, so not sure what the ultimate plan is for that. Waiting until they widen (whenever that is) to put permanent signals in maybe?

Djeffery · #**1265** Posted **Oct 17, 2020, 1:47 PM**

Exeter and Wellington is complete, with a bit of landscaping work being done. They put in some decorative steel in the median just north of Exeter with neighbourhood names stamped in the steel. And also another sign on the southwest corner with neighbourhoods again stamped and "LONDON" in big white letters. A Gateway entrance to the city kind of thing I guess.

One thing I'm annoyed by is the removal of the right turn lane from Wellington NB onto Exeter. They took that away to add a second left turn lane on to Exeter. I wonder why, when they were doing all that work, they didn't widen the roadway to be able to add the left and keep the right? Now you have this awkward looking lane shift when you come across the overpass. I know that's going to be a clusterfuck when it snows and people don't know where the lanes are. I know how long the left turn could back up, and the 2 lanes will help there, but there was also a lot of traffic that turned right including a lot of truck traffic going in to the industrial park (and hopefully sometime a return to car traffic going to the 7 hotels on that block).

The other thing that annoys are those separately signaled left turns. With that extra left lane added there, they have done that too. They added one in Lambeth last year as well and it's only 1 lane turning. You can only turn left when the left signal is up, but you can't turn when the straight through has a green up. Invariably, you sit there at a red while no opposing traffic is coming.

haljackey · #**1266** Posted **Oct 17, 2020, 5:57 PM**

Which direction now has the double left turn? Wellington northbound to Exeter westbound?

The removal of the right turn lane for Wellington northbound to Exeter eastbound makes sense in some fashion. Since the 401 has a dedicated westbound exit to Exeter you don't need to exit to Wellington and backtrack. That's one traffic movement that doesn't need to do this turn. I guess a compromise to fit in the double left.

You need a dedicated left turn light because there isn't enough room in the intersection for two lanes of left turning traffic in one direction +1 lane of left turning traffic in the other direction to fit. It's one of the problems of dual lefts. You think you double the capacity but you then restrict the movement... Capacity only increases a little.

jammer139 · #**1267** Posted **Oct 17, 2020, 11:13 PM**

The sad part was they could have taken some of the gas station and motel land to widen Wellington to have a right turn lane onto Exeter Rd eastbound. Once again visionary planning does not exist at City Hall.

manny_santos · #**1268** Posted **Oct 21, 2020, 3:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by Djeffery

Traffic signals are being installed at Riverbend and Oxford, the intersection where McDonalds is. They are the temporary kind, hung across the intersection, so not sure what the ultimate plan is for that. Waiting until they widen (whenever that is) to put permanent signals in maybe?

Good - when I was in that part of London for part of this year, that was a very difficult place to turn in and out of, due to the huge increase in traffic on Oxford in recent years.

jammer139 · #**1269** Posted **Oct 25, 2020, 4:24 PM**

With the VMP extension about to open and further development of lands near airport by Dancor is now the time for the city to start working on extending Cheapside St east to connect to the VMP? Cheapside ends at the Great Lakes Copper factory. It would be easy enough to extend it east and run it along the NW side of train tracks to connect to VMP without building an overpass or build an overpass over the tracks and run it VMP. There is a lot of land here for industrial development with easy access to rail and airport.

Djeffery · #**1270** Posted **Oct 25, 2020, 5:52 PM**

My opinion is VMP needs to be a more limited access road and lose some of the intersections it currently has, not add another like Cheapside, so close to Huron. That land east of the end of Cheapside could easily be developed by extending Cheapside and having it turn north to Huron, west of VMP.

jammer139 · #**1271** Posted **Oct 30, 2020, 4:31 PM**

Sadly another horrible collision on Highbury Ave today. These collisions are continuing to happen because the road is a death trap and designed to be dangerous. The two cities, counties and the province need to rebuild Highbury Ave by twinning it to 4 lanes divided straight thru between London and St Thomas. The traffic volumes are only going to increase in the future and sadly the carnage as well unless we get the construction started ASAP. We know how to engineer roads safely. We need to start implementing those best practices.

haljackey · #**1272** Posted **Oct 30, 2020, 4:47 PM**

Thing is between Highbury and Clarke, Cheapside is a pretty great bypass road. No homes front their driveways onto it and it's posted at 60km/h.

I could see extending Cheapside to the VMP may take some demand off Oxford, Huron and possibly other roads as well.

I don't see much of an issue adding an extra intersection to the VMP since the city pretty much doesn't care about turning it into a freeway. If it finally does get upgraded this intersection could be closed then.

Access to side streets like Admiral Drive, Tartan Drive and Page Street should be eliminated in the future as well.

Djeffery · #**1273** Posted **Oct 31, 2020, 2:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by haljackey

Thing is between Highbury and Clarke, Cheapside is a pretty great bypass road. No homes front their driveways onto it and it's posted at 60km/h.

I could see extending Cheapside to the VMP may take some demand off Oxford, Huron and possibly other roads as well.

I don't see much of an issue adding an extra intersection to the VMP since the city pretty much doesn't care about turning it into a freeway. If it finally does get upgraded this intersection could be closed then.

Access to side streets like Admiral Drive, Tartan Drive and Page Street should be eliminated in the future as well.

I still see that being accomplished the same by turning Cheapside up to Huron, and opening up that land to development similar to Robin's Hill Road.

ssiguy · #**1274** Posted **Oct 31, 2020, 6:59 PM**

The rehab of Dundas in Old East looks quite nice but I thought the BRT was going down that portion of Dundas?

Djeffery · #**1275** Posted **Nov 1, 2020, 12:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by ssiguy

The rehab of Dundas in Old East looks quite nice but I thought the BRT was going down that portion of Dundas?

I think BRT is going both ways on King to Ontario to Dundas if I recall the map right.

jammer139 · #**1276** Posted **Nov 21, 2020, 9:37 PM**

They have opened up a portion of Dundas St EOA but still are working on the stretch ending at Ontario St.

jammer139 · #**1277** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 12:29 AM**

Base coat of paving on Richmond between King and Dundas finally set. Might just open it before Christmas.

Djeffery · #**1278** Posted **Dec 12, 2020, 3:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by jammer139

Base coat of paving on Richmond between King and Dundas finally set. Might just open it before Christmas.

Base coat was actually a week ago. The road opened late today.

ssiguy · #**1279** Posted **Dec 12, 2020, 10:24 PM**

After countless decades of neglect, it's great to see the city finally reinvesting in the area. It has real bones and although still has many social problems, it has the making of a great neighbourhood.

Any pics of the redone areas?

Djeffery · #**1280** Posted **Dec 12, 2020, 10:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by ssiguy

After countless decades of neglect, it's great to see the city finally reinvesting in the area. It has real bones and although still has many social problems, it has the making of a great neighbourhood.

Any pics of the redone areas?

there are pics on dundasplace.ca of that work. The other streets were just sewer projects and finished back to asphalt as before, so nothing really special. I did like the looks of Dundas last night with all the Christmas lights up though. They are pretty bright, I was wondering what they were when I was over on Wharncliffe.