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Old Posted Jan 16, 2014, 6:19 AM
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Makes sense - they're currently just a block away at Robson Court (next to Chapters).

I've heard of firms that don't have external offices, but this may be the first in Vancouver (internal offices are definitely considered 2nd rate and I wonder if it would impact their recruitment?). It makes sense, though, since they are taking less than a full floor.

A number of firms have also reduced the sizes of their offices - and instituted uniform sizes for both partners and associates.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2014, 7:53 AM
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there's a Flickr member that takes great (and frequent) shots from the Capitol of the project

François Péladeau http://www.flickr.com/photos/blazinred/


photo by François Péladeau http://www.flickr.com/photos/blazinr...04474/sizes/l/
Thanks! It is me... My suite is on the 25th floor of The Capitol on the North corner. I hit the jackpot when I found this place in terms of views...

As for Nordstrom's, I also have a progress "set" on Flickr at:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/blazinr...7638073706255/

I also have one going for Trump (recent). I don't have a progress view - until it reaches approx floor 20. In the pile of skyline shots I have, Trump will be exactly to the right of Shangrila - full unobstructed view flush with Shangrila. The view will be spectacular Im sure.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/blazinr...7639049030294/

And exactly to the East (I have West North and East views) is Telus Garden. I started a set for that project as well:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/blazinr...7639495257366/

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Old Posted Jan 16, 2014, 8:08 AM
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i think u can design well with a smaller scale building, and make it look very...confident and outgoing.

however,some buildings in vancouver lack a general sense of "qi", the energy that emits from the style of the building, including its scale, to your internal psyche...this invisible thing is basically just a visual reaction to the design. look at some japanese designs, they are small but very consistent and orderly.
its' the way they lined up all those buildings so orderly that gave that feel of energy...

Vancouver got some really nice medium size buildings, I dont think it matters with size. you can increase visual impact iwth height too. If you like the chicago styles, you cannot find them here, simply because the streets are not wide enough to deliver a holistic feel of scale. the closest thing van comes to in terms of styles is probably being a more modest version of new york city. It's a 2.5 million city, and what do you expect in terms of scale. 8million?hahaha. i'd say when it hits 3 million, it'd look pretty big and impactful overall regardless of architectural size, because it can create that big city feel with numbers of buildings. the main concern is no longer scale, and it's not going into that direction anways. it's more about a dynamic mix of styles.

i think sooner or later this debate about lack of styles would be over with the new projects, that'd be a mjor step of this city, to get out of that depression. and maybe surrey woudl be the new hope for bigger buildings...but they killed one project the berezan years ago...

at least, give us one big corporate building, so to end the era..damn, reminds you of the canucks.

94, 2011~~ what's wrong with van, in so many areas. it's always standing up for something, but not reaching deep enough so to hit the paramount.
Actually, if I may, The skyline in Vancouver is spectacular given the city's planners dating back to the 1950's have a strict vision of what it should be like and the impact on the natural surroundings (mountains, ocean). The "dull" light blue and sea foam green colour template is on purpose as to not "overpower" the beauty of the natural surroundings. The term "Vancouverism" is actually known globally as a successful urban planning architectural style.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouverism

However, recently the city has loosened its guidelines to accept a handful of "iconic" towers to add interest to the overall skyline - Shangrila, Trump, Bjarke Ingels, Burrard, Telus are those that have been approved as "interest" towers. Also, the available land to construct these iconic towers is very slim now. So, we should not expect many "new" iconic towers once the City Centre is "full". A few years yet of course.

Now that the go ahead for the Enbridge Northern Gateway pipeline has been given, expect BC (Vancouver) to boom in real estate once again as billions will be flowing into the BC economy as spin off from the shipping of Alberta Tar Sands Synthetic Crude Oil to [very thirsty as the world has peaked in oil production already and the Tar Sands are it for proven reserves] Asian Markets.

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Old Posted Jan 16, 2014, 8:16 AM
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Nice!
Looking forward to more shots.

I can see my office in TD Tower in the original of that shot above.
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Nice!
Looking forward to more shots.

I can see my office in TD Tower in the original of that shot above.
COOL!! From my living room that tower looks sooooooooo dull and unappealing. BUT, when I photograph it from street level WOW!! Here a few I have taken recently:


TD Tower by vancityhotshots, on Flickr


TD Bank Tower [completed 1972] by vancityhotshots, on Flickr


TD Bank Tower [Completed 1972] by vancityhotshots, on Flickr


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Old Posted Jan 16, 2014, 4:31 PM
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It's great to hear so much diversification in the market, especially with startups and the technology space. Hopefully it isn't just a change in media reporting, but it seems like there is more and more momentum in this small city. All of the additional office space might not be for naught.
You did catch that the MT deal is a downsizing?
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You did catch that the MT deal is a downsizing?
Did you catch that they will actually have room for more people that can now all be on one floor?
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2014, 6:18 PM
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Did you catch that they will actually have room for more people that can now all be on one floor?
Body count can perhaps go up, but in the end, less space is being leased. How that translates into "let's build more" escapes me.
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^^ Yeah, several filing cabinets are getting laid off and early retirement.
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Body count can perhaps go up, but in the end, less space is being leased. How that translates into "let's build more" escapes me.
"He told BIV that he has lined up other potential tenants for the building including what he described as a Vancouver technology company that wants to expand."

Also, as has been discussed many times in this forum, new AAA space attracts top tier tenants. They vacate some less desirable space which becomes available for second tier companies etc.

The point is that the new space is helping businesses grow, which is the real reason to be excited about new office buildings. Not just to see pretty buildings go up or see the tally of metro office inventory tick upwards.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2014, 7:43 PM
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COOL!! From my living room that tower looks sooooooooo dull and unappealing. BUT, when I photograph it from street level WOW!! Here a few I have taken recently:


TD Tower by vancityhotshots, on Flickr


TD Bank Tower [completed 1972] by vancityhotshots, on Flickr


TD Bank Tower [Completed 1972] by vancityhotshots, on Flickr


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I love the moire effects!
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2014, 8:34 PM
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"He told BIV that he has lined up other potential tenants for the building including what he described as a Vancouver technology company that wants to expand."

Also, as has been discussed many times in this forum, new AAA space attracts top tier tenants. They vacate some less desirable space which becomes available for second tier companies etc.

The point is that the new space is helping businesses grow, which is the real reason to be excited about new office buildings. Not just to see pretty buildings go up or see the tally of metro office inventory tick upwards.
Or in MT's case, new space is helping them shrink their square footage, but who am I to ignore simple math? The leasing market couldn't care less about body count. It's all down to simple square footage.
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RE: TD Tower,
anyone know why (maybe OD?) that after they re-did all the sidewalks along Georgia and Howe, there's no provision for street trees along either route.
makes it feel very concrete and cold especially along Georgia.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2014, 10:32 PM
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COOL!! From my living room that tower looks sooooooooo dull and unappealing. BUT, when I photograph it from street level WOW!!
It looks quite a bit different depending on the light, too. It can look realy dark or quite brown.

The glass is actually colour-blocked (in a big upside-down U), which I think is most visible from the Art Gallery "lawn" side.
You can see the pattern in these pics:

http://www.pnwarchitecture.com/Build...e-TD-Tower.php

And the logo used to be better too - not a big backlit square, but a formed logo (here in 2001):

http://blackcat.ca/lifeline_data/ima...Spring2001.jpg

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WRT the sidewalks - not really sure why there aren't any street trees.
The obvious answer would be the presence of the mall below. There are some trees outside of 701 West Georgia, but it's uphill from TD Tower, so there may be more clearance to the roof of the mall over there (i.e. even on that side of the street, the trees only go halfway along the block, then they transition into above-ground planters closer to Howe). When they redid the sidewalk in front of TD Tower a couple of years ago, there were big steam pipes just under the surface.

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COOL!! From my living room that tower looks sooooooooo dull and unappealing.
Count me among the few who think that TD Tower is fantastic (not the lobby, though).
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You know how many years it took for Cadillac Fairview to place seating in the TD Tower lobby (despite there being seating in the 701, Canaccord and 777 towers?)
Something like 15 YEARS.
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WRT the sidewalks - not really sure why there aren't any street trees.
The obvious answer would be the presence of the mall below. There are some trees outside of 701 West Georgia, but it's uphill from TD Tower, so there may be more clearance to the roof of the mall over there (i.e. even on that side of the street, the trees only go halfway along the block, then they transition into above-ground planters closer to Howe). When they redid the sidewalk in front of TD Tower a couple of years ago, there were big steam pipes just under the surface.
thanks! i forgot about the mall below and now that i think about it, I seem to recall that there were raised planters for trees along Howe.
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Count me among the few who think that TD Tower is fantastic (not the lobby, though).
I didn't know people didn't like TD Tower, I've always though it was a solid, if a little under stated, tower.

I'd imagine it was Vancouver's first starchitect tower, although far before Pelli achieved the level of fame he has today.
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The form work on squaring the ends on the north side appears to be finished:


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