Mobile Development Thread

[Port_of_Bama]

Originally Posted by BKOTH97

Port_of_Bama,

Mobile is not the only city in the state with a 2 county metro.

Huntsville (Madison, Limestone) - 376,753
Decatur (Morgan, Lawrence) - 149,549
Florence/Muscle Shoals (Lauderdale, Colbert) - 142,657

Mobile (Mobile, Baldwin) 404,157

Numbers are 2006 MSA Estimates.

Thanks,
BKOTH97

Mobile county population is 404,157 Baldwin county population is over 170,000 Mobile is the only city in the state with a 2 county CSA .

(Hunstville has a 5 county CSA 520,000), (B-ham 7 or 8 county CSA 1.1 mill),(Montgomery 4 county CSA 400,000 +), (Mobile 2 county CSA over 580,00)

Mobile`s MSa is just Mobile county proper (404,157), B_ham MSA Jefferson county proper(600,000 +), Hunstville MSA is Madison and Limestone (Madison with 295,000)(Lime stone with over 70,000), Montgomery county (MSA) 221,000

Based on 2006 Demographics.

[bayou15]

Hey Del, I feel ya on the Mobile Press. 400 people at the meeting about the city's future and it is put on the back burner. Another example...I saw nothing in the paper or on local news about the lighting on the Riverview Hotel.


Now adays it's all about crime. Well there is over 1.3million in our media area and I hate to say but a crime is geauxing to happen. Everyday all I see in the news is bad, Its ether about crime or high gas prices or school shootings. If they quit reporting about these issues, half the stuff wouldn't happen .........Just a thought

[Port_of_Bama]

Originally Posted by bayou15

Hey Del, I feel ya on the Mobile Press. 400 people at the meeting about the city's future and it is put on the back burner. Another example...I saw nothing in the paper or on local news about the lighting on the Riverview Hotel.


Now adays it's all about crime. Well there is over 1.3million in our media area and I hate to say but a crime is geauxing to happen. Everyday all I see in the news is bad, Its ether about crime or high gas prices or school shootings. If they quit reporting about these issues, half the stuff wouldn't happen .........Just a thought

The crazy thing about Hunstville is crime happens up here but you don`t hear about it. A police officer was murdered in Hunstville this past December. There were a total of 5 murders alone in the month of december in Hunstville. A man shot up 3 people in a TGI Fridays up here in Hunstville with a semi automatic weapon. Hunstville`s Murder rate went from 16 in 2006 to 22 in 2007. Mobile had 34 murders in 2006 and in 2007 we had 40 , Montgomery 45, B-aham I believe was in the 90`s. Mobile`s police jurisdiction covers 250,000 residents. 40 out of 250,000 residents is not bad compared to other cities with the same thing. Crime is in Baldwin county and every where else crime is un avoidable. We all want Mobile to grow but with growth there are problems such as crime,traffic and everything else. Hunstville area is the fastest growing area in Alabama right now but along with that growth crime and traffic is coming as well. Atlanta always makes the 10 or 5`th most dangerous U.S cities list but ATL is a growing like crazy and the with that it`s traffic,and crime,but you rarely hear any thing about it just traffic but Atl has crime as well. The same to say fro cities such a Miami, Dallas, Charlotte and others.

[MobileLSUboy2005]

Originally Posted by Port_of_Bama

Man thats what I been talking about, we are thge only city in the state with a 2 county metro. Mobile and Baldwin county CSA is over 570,000 based on the 2006 census. With the counties that are on that graph Mobile CSA is well over a million. I`ll be up herein Hutsville for school during the meeting wish I could make it I hope someone mention this.

MobileLSUBoy what link did you get that from ?

i actually saved the pic to my computer and then uploaded it to photobucket, but the pic came from the Chamber of Commerce's website.

yea, i mean, even some numbers only show Mobile Co. for our metro or 400,000, and use Baldwin as its own micro-politan area... oh well..its dumb haha

[Shawn35816]

Lou Dobbs just got through doing a special on the Airbus/Northrop Grumman vs. Boeing deal. It definetly put Boeing in a better light than the foreign airplane maker. The media has to much power and uses it the wrong way by misleading people to see it "their" way. With more bad media like that it might be a while for things to get off the ground in Mobile.

[BlessedMobile]

Originally Posted by Shawn35816

Lou Dobbs just got through doing a special on the Airbus/Northrop Grumman vs. Boeing deal. It definetly put Boeing in a better light than the foreign airplane maker. The media has to much power and uses it the wrong way by misleading people to see it "their" way. With more bad media like that it might be a while for things to get off the ground in Mobile.

Thankfully, the Air Force chose their plane based on the facts and not by what the media would sell the people. I would not have expected good ole' Lou to say anything different. He is a pessimist on the economy and dislikes everything John McCain has anything to do with. Northrup Grumman will get the contract because the Air Force has made their choice. It's the politicians who want to get on their soap boxes and shout some injustice. We should do our blood pressure some good and just not LISTEN to the naysayers.

[bayou15]

http://www.lagniappemobile.com/article/1374

One good read

[bayou15]

Here's ure 2030 msa projection growth
http://www.smartcoast.org/projections.html

Looks like Pas/Point should be added

[yeahwhatever]

Originally Posted by bayou15

Everyday all I see in the news is bad, Its ether about crime or high gas prices or school shootings. If they quit reporting about these issues, half the stuff wouldn't happen .........Just a thought

are you serious?

[10101000]

Ladies and Gentlemen I cannot believe this. I never thought that I would see the day that Mobile becomes a major business hub. One thing led to the next in Atlanta to led it in urban sprawl. I feel that we all will see the same. Mobile was on every front page of every major US city on 03-02-08. What a day to place Mobile in the spot light. I am proud to be a mobilian.

03/12/2008 Edit

More like Urban development, not urban sprawl.

[Port_of_Bama]

Originally Posted by timothyncrystal

Ladies and Gentlemen I cannot believe this. I never thought that I would see the day that Mobile becomes a major business hub. One thing led to the next in Atlanta to led it in urban sprawl. I feel that we all will see the same. Mobile was on every front page of every major US city on 03-02-08. What a day to place Mobile in the spot light. I am proud to be a mobilian.

03/12/2008 Edit

More like Urban development, not urban sprawl.

Whewww ! I was going to say Mobile has a problem with sprawl all ready,I see where you are coming from. I just hope that Mobile will grow smart and fill up the city first before any areas in the county even if it means building up.

Oh yeah I know that this is a little far fetched but do you guys think that light rail running from west Mobile to downtown and another from Daphne to downtown in 10 years would fit Mobile. I believe so as long as new industry continue to come which I know it will.

[Del]

Why have light rail from Baldwin when we can have THE BRIDGE. A brilliant duplication of that paragon of traffic engineering, the New Orleans' high-rise, towering over downtown Mobile. Federal dollars used to construct a project just to serve our local commuters---and with a special exit leading directly to the Press-Register parking lot, just for the editorial staff. most of whom seem to live over there.

[Port_of_Bama]

Originally Posted by Del

Why have light rail from Baldwin when we can have THE BRIDGE. A brilliant duplication of that paragon of traffic engineering, the New Orleans' high-rise, towering over downtown Mobile. Federal dollars used to construct a project just to serve our local commuters---and with a special exit leading directly to the Press-Register parking lot, just for the editorial staff. most of whom seem to live over there.

I see were your coming from but what about light rail running from downtown to the west then.

[Muskavon]

Originally Posted by yeahwhatever

are you serious?

lol, yeah I'm pretty sure poople aren't committing crimes so they can make the paper.

In other news, I've got to vent a little about this Boeing protest as it has really got me pissed off. What the eff is the point in this process if the only satisfactory result to these politicians and Boeing is that Boeing is declared victorious for an unproven an inferior product that had a selling point of being outsourced in its own right. Bastards.

If I were one of these other companies that regularly bids against Boeing, I'd eventually have to ask in hearings...."Why exactly should any company go to the time, effort and expense to compete against Boeing if we can't be allowed to win when we deserve to win. I'm picking up my ball and going home and the US can settle for whatever price/product Boeing makes up in the future because we obviously aren't allowed to compete. And it is the military and your airliners and your pocketbooks that'll have to suffer the consequences of your protectionism and short sightedness. And laughably, you are protecting what? A company trying it's best to get more of its product built overseas?"

Ok, done venting for now.

[bayou15]

[Del]

Port of Bama, I just don't know. Outside of the northeast, people seem to think that public transportation is only for the very poor. No matter how bad it gets, the only solution is to build ever more lanes (and put more cupholders and other gimcracks in the SUVs, to divert the commuters during their drive time). Now that gas is going up, maybe that will finally nudge things in a different direction, since people seem much less willing to give up a buck than their time (witness the millions of satisfied Wal-Mart shoppers).

Amen, Muskavon! Let's hope this appeal is just a chance for everybody to have his little tantrum and be heard, and when it's over the Air Force will say, "We appreciate your valuable input, and we're sticking with EADS."

[pkp]

I do not agree on the public transportation comment - quit expanding roads - start building public transportation and people will use it. It is more efficient, socially responsible, creates quality urban development and when you are staring at $4 a gallon gas - should be pretty attractive - $15 a week - ride all you want. i would like to see most future road construction funded by tolls - not tax dollars.

[pkp]

Also - on building extra lanes - it is a proven fact that when a lane is added, it is over capacity again within 3 years. Roads are not the solution - the world's best (think NYC, Europe, some Asian cities) are able to move more people, more quickly, less expensively, with less polution and a happier population than sprawling, auto-centric cities. Why would we possibly want to continue funding that. I actually did a pretty extensive study in college on the impact of transportation spending on a local, state, and federal level, and all of the evidence was negative on suburban lifestyles, on nearly every level. Of course, as one of the few, if not only, people on this site that actually live "downtown", I doubt I will have many folks that agree with me.

[Alxx611]

I went to Royal Street Tattoo today with my friend to get his tattoo sketched. So many things to photograph today. The Hampton has added soooo much density to its end of Royal street and although the Riverview spire looks ridiculous from the Interstate with the skyline, it looks great up close.

Anyway, my batteries were low, so i only took 3 random pictures:






By the RSA parking deck.

[MobileLSUboy2005]

due to technical issues, Bayou15 asked me to post this pic for him: