NEW YORK | 350 Park Avenue | 1,413 FT | 62 FLOORS - Page 62

TKD · #**1221** Posted **Nov 11, 2025, 7:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by ssh

it is ~1474' to parapet according to jrf on nyy

That is measured from AMSL, not street level, its 1413 from street level.

mrnyc · #**1222** Posted **Nov 11, 2025, 7:47 PM**

oh geez, now i am really confused here.

i guess we'll have to wait and see.

otherwise, its ok, when they top out i'll climb to the tip and drop a measuring tape down -- somebody come by and spot me -- sounds good?

ssh · #**1223** Posted **Nov 11, 2025, 7:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by TKD

That is measured from AMSL, not street level, its 1413 from street level.

Ah I see

Zapatan · #**1224** Posted **Nov 11, 2025, 8:24 PM**

I wonder if the floor count / design has changed too.

Maybe the impending recession cancels this project and in like a decade they don't blow the opportunity and build something taller there.

This is a great location, would like to see something better.

DCReid · #**1225** Posted **Nov 11, 2025, 9:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

I wonder if the floor count / design has changed too.

Maybe the impending recession cancels this project and in like a decade they don't blow the opportunity and build something taller there.

This is a great location, would like to see something better.

I Vandy was supposed to be 1501 ft to the tip of the spire and they cut the height 100 ft to 1401. I think they decided to make the floor plates bigger as justification. If you have followed15 Penn , you see they have cut the height from over 1200 ft to about 1000 ft, and I just saw an article today that they are considering a hotel instead of offices, which would likely make it shorter. I just hope 175 Park Ave gets built at planned height of 1580 feet.

ssh · #**1226** Posted **Nov 11, 2025, 10:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

I wonder if the floor count / design has changed too.

Maybe the impending recession cancels this project and in like a decade they don't blow the opportunity and build something taller there.

This is a great location, would like to see something better.

Pessimism and negativity to this degree cannot be healthy.

Zapatan · #**1227** Posted **Nov 11, 2025, 10:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by ssh

Pessimism and negativity to this degree cannot be healthy.

Not really so much pessimism as willing to wait longer for something better.

Also why would I be optimistic?

Zapatan · #**1228** Posted **Nov 12, 2025, 4:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by jackb

Neither is having a skyscraper obsession, but here we are

lol, I personally try not to get too obsessed but when you look at some of the buildings going up around the world both height and design wise it's only fair to want some of that here.

1,580 was respectable, too much lower is ordinary by today's standards. But of course there are more important things than skyscrapers

Zapatan · #**1229** Posted **Nov 12, 2025, 4:56 AM**

On another note it seems like the floor count is now 66, I guess Citadel saw the current floor heights as excessive and realized they could fit just as much SF into a shorter and cheaper building from an engineering perspective.

Makes sense.

ChiND · #**1230** Posted **Nov 14, 2025, 5:18 PM**

We're getting an absolutely iconic new 1,418 foot tower. No first world city is getting anything remotely like this. Anyone who's disappointed is a moron per se.

NYguy · #**1231** Posted **Nov 14, 2025, 6:35 PM**

Somebody put 350 Park in this pic (add 175 Park for bonus)....

https://nypost.com/2025/11/14/us-new...idership-boom/

ChiND · #**1232** Posted **Nov 24, 2025, 2:27 PM**

This extraordinary tower is the Citadel of Finance! Ken Griffen is the Man!

Master work by our uber-talented colleague, Xing.

NYguy · #**1233** Posted **Dec 4, 2025, 3:18 PM**

https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-e...00-square-foot

Developers race to build as Manhattan office rents reach $300 per square foot

Aaron Elstein
December 4, 2025

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At the turn of the millennium office rents in Manhattan crossed a previously unfathomable threshold.

“'My father predicted we would see rates of $100 a square foot by the end of the century, and people told him he was crazy,” Cushman & Wakefield executive Tara Stacom said in 2000. “Well here we are and here they are.”

Those rates seem quaint now.

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“Companies are willing to pay rents that none of us would ever have anticipated,” said Mary Ann Tighe, New York’s top commercial broker and CEO of CBRE’s tri-state region.

Towers commanding the highest rents include 1 Vanderbilt Ave., 425 Park Ave., the General Motors Building at 767 Fifth Ave., and Citadel’s headquarters building that’s poised to soon rise up at 350 Park Ave. Citadel is paying $300 a square foot for top-floor space at 425 Park.

Tighe said 175 Park Ave., a tower that RXR has been trying to build for several years, has found someone to pay $300 per square foot, though she wouldn’t identify the tenant.

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Unsurprisingly, developers are racing to build towers that can command stratospheric rents, even though the cost to build has soared to $2,000 per square foot or more.

Related Cos. is planning new towers at Hudson Yards because all the space in the massive office complex is filled, said CEO Jeff Blau. His firm is also working on a tower at 625 Madison Ave.

Vornado Realty Trust has dusted off plans that have been around for 20 years to develop a 2 million-square-foot tower on the site of the Hotel Pennsylvania, across the street from Penn Station. BXP is constructing a 1 million-square-foot tower connected to Grand Central Terminal.

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Blau credited Jamie Dimon for unleashing the boom by developing his firm’s 60-story tower at 270 Park Ave. The tower cost at least $3 billion to build and perhaps as much as $5 billion.

“JPMorgan built that building and now everybody has FOMO,” Blau said, or fear of missing out.

JPMorgan’s building measures 1,388 feet high and lords over Park Avenue’s glassy towers, at least for now. That could change once Rudin, Vornado, and Citadel finish 350 Park, which developer William Rudin said would top out at 1,400 feet.

“It’s going to be a little bit taller than JPMorgan’s building,” he said.