YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[tayser]

Just another brainfart/realisation - the AC flight numbers to Australia are easy to remember

AC33, 34, 35, 36, 37 & 38 - YVR-SYD, SYD-YVR, YVR-BNE, BNE-YVR, YVR-MEL, MEL-YVR

[Johnny Aussie]

Touchdown MEL about 30 mins early.

Welcome to MEL Air Canada!

[tayser]

A video of the arrival and departure of AC in MEL, from SSC user - MaxBuller http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=143812671&postcount=13239

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4DHE-QNMpY

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by tayser

A video of the arrival and departure of AC in MEL, from SSC user - MaxBuller

And here’s Melbourne Airport’s video about the new service...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1960647073962244&id=213235072036795&__tn__=C-R

[LeftCoaster]

October stats just came out today, everything is up from September, a strong month all around:

http://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/...er/traffic-update-october-2017.pdf?la=en

Domestic up 6.0%
International up 13.2%

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Total pax count up 9.4% and over 168,179 compared to October 2016.

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Int'l breakdown by sector:

Transborder up 10.5%
Asia Pacific up 16.6%
Europe up 8.0%
Misc Int'l up 36.3%

Once again just a solid month all around. Domestic slowing the total growth but 6% domestically is nothing to scoff at. If you cut out Transborder from international numbers the isolated international growth was 15.7%, which building off the huge numbers seen in Oct 2016 is very impressive.

This result raises YVR's year to date to 8.2%. Hopefully the rest of the year finishes off strongly and we can keep the annual growth rate at or above 8%.

Also YVR already hit 20 million passengers by the end of October, simply amazing!

Hows that new terminal coming...

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Not sure where you see that.

I've got CA992 daily and CA998 operating days 1467 new departure time of 0230.

Remember the cap is on frequencies so they can't increase their flights per week above their cap. Double daily is not possible under the current allotment.

I was doing dummy bookings on the Air China website. no flights were available on Saturdays.

And regarding the frequency cap, I had them in as double daily last summer so I thought we are moving from 14 down to 11 and therefore leaving 3 vacancies in the cap. Is this not the case?

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

October stats just came out today, everything is up from September, a strong month all around:

Domestic up 6.0%
International up 13.2%

---------

Total pax count up 9.4% and over 168,179 compared to October 2016.

---------

Int'l breakdown by sector:

Transborder up 10.5%
Asia Pacific up 16.6%
Europe up 8.0%
Misc Int'l up 36.3%

Once again just a solid month all around. Domestic slowing the total growth but 6% domestically is nothing to scoff at. If you cut out Transborder from international numbers the isolated international growth was 15.7%, which building off the huge numbers seen in Oct 2016 is very impressive.

This result raises YVR's year to date to 8.2%. Hopefully the rest of the year finishes off strongly and we can keep the annual growth rate at or above 8%.

Also YVR already hit 20 million passengers by the end of October, simply amazing!

Hows that new terminal coming...

Yes very impressive. YTD total international is now well over 1,000,000 more than 2016. Keeping YVR as the solid second busiest for international passengers of Canadian airports. YVR handles more international pax than MEL (a city rapidly approaching 5 million!) And YVR should handle more pax than BNE with growth the way its going. Just a comparison to Aussie airports

And domestic in Oct surpassed YYC for the first time as well... although just barely.

Excellent cargo stats as well. Already > 250,000 tonnes YTD.

Basically YVR is continuing its booming trends across the board.

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I was doing dummy bookings on the Air China website. no flights were available on Saturdays.

And regarding the frequency cap, I had them in as double daily last summer so I thought we are moving from 14 down to 11 and therefore leaving 3 vacancies in the cap. Is this not the case?

CA was double daily in summer 2015. With the launch of YUL - PEK flights they had to cut YVR frequencies. Last summer was peak of only 10 weekly. SO next summer will be 11 weekly with all being 77WHDs

[LeftCoaster]

Ahh i see, so i massively overstated 2017 capacity in my previous chart. Whoops!

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Ahh i see, so i massively overstated 2017 capacity in my previous chart. Whoops!

Oops I meant summer 2016 was double daily but reduced to 10 weekly summer 2017.

To be honest YVR has had so many additions/changes/tweaks it’s really getting harder to keep track.

So next up we have:

Nanaimo and Comox both start on December 14 - WS Encore
Yellowknife kicks off 15 Dec - AC Express
Flair commences YVR ops on 15 Dec as well - YLW, YEG and YYZ
Orlando on 22 December - AC rouge

OK somebody had better say something negative now.

[Lancaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Oops I meant summer 2016 was double daily but reduced to 10 weekly summer 2017.

To be honest YVR has had so many additions/changes/tweaks it’s really getting harder to keep track.

So next up we have:

Nanaimo and Comox both start on December 14 - WS Encore
Yellowknife kicks off 15 Dec - AC Express
Flair commences YVR ops on 15 Dec as well - YLW, YEG and YYZ
Orlando on 22 December - AC rouge

OK somebody had better say something negative now.

rambleramble...south america...rambleramble

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

SO next summer will be 11 weekly with all being 77WHDs

Wonder where that frequency is coming from. Doesn't seem to be YUL, as it is showing 6x weekly as of March 25.

One of the cargo runs to YEG perhaps?

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Oops I meant summer 2016 was double daily but reduced to 10 weekly summer 2017.

To be honest YVR has had so many additions/changes/tweaks it’s really getting harder to keep track.

Well either way good to see some added frequency. There's a lot of negative talk about yields across the Pacific, so if flights are still being added something must be going right.

Originally Posted by Lancaster

rambleramble...south america...rambleramble

Trofiren when did you change your user name?

[SFUVancouver]

Just a random YVR observation, I'm in the new(ish) C pier (extension?) for regional aircraft and it's really nice. I've never been down here before and they've done a nice job integrating elements of the international/transborder terminal architecture at what must be a lower construction price point. The line for Tim's is a mile long, so they missed the boat with retail; it could have easily supported a second F&B CRU.

[Lancaster]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Just a random YVR observation, I'm in the new(ish) C pier (extension?) for regional aircraft and it's really nice. I've never been down here before and they've done a nice job integrating elements of the international/transborder terminal architecture at what must be a lower construction price point. The line for Tim's is a mile long, so they missed the boat with retail; it could have easily supported a second F&B CRU.

It may seem surprising, but that has actually been there for about or over ten years now. Someone can correct me, but I think it was done in 2006-2007ish?

But yes, it's easily the nicest of the ground load gates at YVR. Wish they would do the same in the US departures area.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Lancaster

It may seem surprising, but that has actually been there for about or over ten years now. Someone can correct me, but I think it was done in 2006-2007ish?

But yes, it's easily the nicest of the ground load gates at YVR. Wish they would do the same in the US departures area.

They also need to do something similar with the WestJet Encore side of things.

All said, Vancouver ground loading gates (even transboarder) are an order of magnitude better that the Pearson trans boarder area used by Air Canada.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Lancaster

rambleramble...south america...rambleramble

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Trofiren when did you change your user name?

I'm aware that I'm not your favorite SSP'er, but please desist with the unwarranted 'ad hominem' atacks. They're insulting, and unbecoming of a moderator. Thank you.

[CareerShow]

What do people think of the more liberal policies regarding pilot hours in Canada versus that of the USA or EU, such as Pilot shifts in Canada of up to 14 hours, while in the States its 10 hours, or the relief pilot necessity at 10 hours versus 8 hours in the States.

I remember reading somewhere that a Canadian crew can do YYZ SFO roundtrip, while an American crew would not be able to. I've also always thought that a trip such as YVR to Puerto Vallarta roundtrip would be an extremely long day for a crew (12 hours or so all in).

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

I'm aware that I'm not your favorite SSP'er, but please desist with the unwarranted 'ad hominem' atacks. They're insulting, and unbecoming of a moderator. Thank you.

Ad hominem? Dude lighten up, you ramble...

[CareerShow]

Also I'm really hoping these CRA 705 routes turn into C-series once the aircrafts get delivered for many of the current flights. The CRA 705 is just so cramped and the low ceiling makes things feel claustrophobic. Especially for flights of over 2 hours such as San Diego, Denver, Phoenix, Dallas, and Chicago.

[zahav]

Air Canada looks like it's removed 767 domestic flights from this summer's bookings. Up until a couple weeks ago, the 767 was scheduled on quite a few domestic legs (YVR-YYZ mainly), but has since been removed entirely and replaced by 321 aircraft. I know scheds aren't final yet, but seems like a notable thing, considering all the flights are the same, just the equipment is now 321 for each previous 767. But OAG and flight schedules still have the 767 listed (ex. AC182, 102, 184, and 166 are on OAG as 767, but on AC's booking site, each of these four flights is now 321.

I wondering if they are planning to move a bunch to Rouge?