Vancouver General Discussion Thread

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Anyone know the building?

It the Gizella Bakery + Happy Valley Dim Sum + BMW repair place. Best smelling part of the Central Valley Greenway.

From Lougheed it's not immediately obvious that it's a rooftop; Perhaps they brought in a truck that was heavier than the roof could support?

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Breaking: East Vancouver rooftop parking lot collapses

By Kurtis Doering and Denise Wong
Posted Jul 14, 2022, 2:22PM PDT.
A rooftop parking lot near Vancouver’s border with Burnaby has collapsed.

The collapse at the lot above an office space on Lougheed Highway between Rupert Street and Boundary Road happened at about 1:30 p.m. Thursday.


It’s unclear how many people were in the building at the time. Crews are trying to make sure everybody is accounted for...
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/07/14/vancouver-parking-lot-collapse/


Anyone know the building?

3432 Lougheed Hwy

Sign in the parking lot says "Attention 10,000kg Load Limit: This Is An Elevated Deck"

Or all that sand they were spreading..

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

3432 Lougheed Hwy

Sign in the parking lot says "Attention 10,000kg Load Limit: This Is An Elevated Deck"

Or all that sand they were spreading..

Now that you mention it, it does look like there was a pile of sand there. Emphasis on was.

[Feathered Friend]

Using the photos from this story, I found it

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/07/14/vancouver-parking-lot-collapse/

It's the property at 3432 Lougheed, a 3 floor warehouse built in 1970, and valued at $17.4 million

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Gizell...1431ced6!8m2!3d49.2621497!4d-123.0293848

[jollyburger]

That floor slab looks paper thin.



https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/07/14/vancouver-parking-lot-collapse/

Anyone have any idea what they would be doing with the sand?

EDIT:

Assistant Fire Chief Dan Moberg of Vancouver Fire Rescue Services told media the collapse occurred while a skid-steer loader was working on the roof. Heavy equipment fell into the spaces below in the two-storey building, which is built into the side of a steep hill.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...oftop-parking-lot-collapses-in-vancouver

Seems like a Bobcat fell into the hole with the sand. 800-1000KG (?)

Building next door has a warning sign as well but 28,000lbs (~12,700kg)

[jlousa]

The parking lot between Steamworks and Waterfront station is limited to only 5000lbs and they tow people away pretty well daily. Just this week I watched them take a model X and a Tundra in the same day. Yet they won't tow any of the Translink police suvs which are over the 5000lb limit. Average person has no idea what their vehicle weighs and 5000lbs captures quite a lot of vehicles these days. The signage is there though.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by jlousa

Average person has no idea what their vehicle weighs and 5000lbs captures quite a lot of vehicles these days. The signage is there though.

I doubt the average person reads the signage. The average car owner generally thinks they're entitled to park wherever they want. Look at the protests when any municipality proposes to remove 2 parking spots anywhere. I've been noticing more and more drivers double parking in parking lots or even on city streets while they "quickly" get their takeout.

[officedweller]

There was a similar accident at the neighbouring building a few years back.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Breaking: East Vancouver rooftop parking lot collapses

By Kurtis Doering and Denise Wong
Posted Jul 14, 2022, 2:22PM PDT.
A rooftop parking lot near Vancouver’s border with Burnaby has collapsed.

The collapse at the lot above an office space on Lougheed Highway between Rupert Street and Boundary Road happened at about 1:30 p.m. Thursday.


It’s unclear how many people were in the building at the time. Crews are trying to make sure everybody is accounted for...
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/07/14/vancouver-parking-lot-collapse/


Anyone know the building?

Looks like 3434 Lougheed, car repair shop.

[EastVanMark]

Used to be a Ricky’s restaurant before.
Before that an mechanic shop.

It’s right by Soccer BC’s building

[jollyburger]

WTF were they thinking? They were excavating all that soil next to the the road/parking lot to fix the roof but storing all the dirt on the parkade?

There's sand right at the edge of the hole so you assume there was another pile over there.





https://twitter.com/cbcnewsbc/status/1547715597563473920

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by jlousa

The parking lot between Steamworks and Waterfront station is limited to only 5000lbs and they tow people away pretty well daily. Just this week I watched them take a model X and a Tundra in the same day. Yet they won't tow any of the Translink police suvs which are over the 5000lb limit. Average person has no idea what their vehicle weighs and 5000lbs captures quite a lot of vehicles these days. The signage is there though.

I guess it depends on how conservative their limit is. Pre-2009 there used to be some ticket booth in that center triangle. After it was removed they just had a tiny sign with the weight restriction, then they added the height limit to restrict larger vehicles. The current weight restriction on the bar wasn't added until 2016.

[jollyburger]

Some aerial footage of the collapse:

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/2-in-hospital-after-rooftop-parking-lot-in-east-vancouver-collapses-1.5988231

[jollyburger]

They recovered the body of someone that died in the roof collapse. This story said the collapse next door happened in the 1990s.

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/video/2022...d-for-in-vancouver-parking-lot-collapse/

EDIT: It was a loaded cement truck that went into the parking lot next door in April 1996.

When I heard the news on the radio earlier today, that a rooftop parking structure in East Vancouver collapsed, my mind immediately went back to an incident in the mid 1990's when a loaded concrete truck punched through an elevated structure, landing on it's ass end in the business below, knocking the driver unconscious. It turns out to be the neighbouring address, however, everything about the development screams that it's the same owner development.

The earlier incident occured in part because the height limitation frame at the parking entrance had been removed to facilitate renovations. The concrete truck driver didn't get the message. I notice in Google Street View there is no equivalent warning structure at the entrance to the 3438 address. WorkSafeBC better be all over this.

https://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=496789

[officedweller]

1996 - yeah, that's a "few" years back.
Time flies!

[SpongeG]

I heard one of the bakery workers died.

[Lexus]

Originally Posted by dreambrother808

I pay $1500 for a 1 bedroom and 2 beds are $2000. My parking is $100 extra. There is some small variation above and below that price I believe, based on views, which side you face, etc. There are some pretty nice views of the river, Mt. Baker, and Richmond farmland. Units are spacious with balconies, decent full size appliances, some have in-suite laundry.

The neighbourhood is chill and feels like an escape from Vancouver while still being in Vancouver proper.

The website also show income requirements. I know there is some wiggle room on that as well though.

dreambrother808. Thank you very much for posting about co-op here. I moved in last Friday! I’m so happy that I got a place here!

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Lexus

dreambrother808. Thank you very much for posting about co-op here. I moved in last Friday! I’m so happy that I got a place here!

Cool! I missed that.

Hopefully there will be more interest as word gets around.

Let us know your impressions of the River District.

[Klazu]

Interesting tidbit about the massive Guildford flagpole. I have always wondered about its origins, but did not know it having been built for Expo 86. I wonder how expensive it is to keep replacing the flag every few years?

https://youtu.be/Lf40kA8r0wQ

[whatnext]

Wasn't sure where this fit best. Article by Frances Bula in the Globe & Mail on Vancouver development. A little convenient that Raymond Louie is featured in this.

Thousands of Vancouver housing units in limbo in tug-of-war between developers, city planners
FRANCES BULA
VANCOUVER
SPECIAL TO THE GLOBE AND MAIL
PUBLISHED YESTERDAY

When the previous Vancouver city council heard there were thousands of potential new homes held up in planning-department limbo because the projects didn’t meet every city guideline or policy requirement, they voted to bend some rules to get things going.

At that time, in the summer of 2021, council members from every party and then-mayor Kennedy Stewart were anxious to see creative new proposals for rental housing, Indigenous housing or “green” housing projects that would help alleviate Vancouver’s desperate shortage of homes – even if it meant going against a rule about shadows or height or trees or some other regulation in what could be a 40-year-old area plan.

A little more than a year later, frustrated housing developers in the city say almost all of those projects are still stalled because council’s desire to hasten new home building appears to have been overtaken by city planners’ desire not to allow any one-off dispensations to the rules.

There is an increasingly noticeable tug-of-war between developers, who say the city’s complex rules and byzantine operating system are stifling housing construction, and planners who say that developers can’t be exempted from the rules even if there is a crisis.

Members of the development community say there isn’t a single project of the 40 proposals put forward under the council’s policy-enquiry process, called PEP, that has been given a clear signal to proceed. Many proponents say that while some have seen applications rejected outright, others are being allowed to proceed only after more planning work is done for some unspecified area around their property....

....“When PEP was first constructed, it was to look at projects that didn’t have policy support at the city but were providing a significant public benefit. But we’re largely in the same place we were before,” said Raymond Louie, a former Vision Vancouver city councillor who is now chief operating officer at Coromandel Properties.

His company has had its application for a 300-unit rental project with almost 60 below-market units rejected. It was told the planned development, near the 29th Avenue SkyTrain station, requires a “station-area planning program” first, along with a comprehensive study on what new services, such as sewer lines, might be needed.

City planners also turned down another Coromandel project that would create almost 1,550 apartments, 280 of them at below-market rents, in the southeast corner of the city because that area also needs a new plan before anything else, Mr. Louie has been told....

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/b...ng-units-in-limbo-in-tug-of-war-between/