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It seems that we might know the plan on Wednesday.
You are correct.

https://twitter.com/ZachReports/stat...97831139512699

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US DOT Sec Sean Duffy doing Wednesday update on next steps with Penn Station

Train Daddy Byford will be there
Per this reporter.

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You are correct.

https://twitter.com/ZachReports/stat...97831139512699



Per this reporter.

Fabulous!

It's time to make Penn Station Great Again!


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https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local...3794229/?amp=1

I assume that the press conference with Byford tomorrow will occur after Duffy’s arrival at Penn.

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U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, Amtrak President Roger Harris and several other key figures will kick off the launch of Amtrak's "NextGen Acela" train with an inaugural ride on Wednesday, Aug. 27, from Washington, D.C. to New York City.
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https://abc7ny.com/post/transportati...dule/17661295/

Transportation Secretary Duffy to reveal Penn Station redesign plans and schedule
ByJaysha Patel, Eyewitness News WABC logo
Wednesday, August 27, 2025

I guess we won't learn much today.

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The DOT will begin soliciting proposals from developers in October, select a master developer for the site next May. Design work and environmental review will follow, with construction beginning by the end of 2027.
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Duffy expected to unveil Penn Station redevelopment timeline during NYC visit
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August 27, 2025


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Whether the project will require MSG to move is still being resolved.
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news...ean-duffy-nyc/
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Seems that they will do exactly as I suspected they would, which is the least they could do.


https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/08/...s-ground-2027/

Feds vow to start Penn Station rebuild on ‘Trump time’ with shovels in ground by 2027


By EVAN SIMKO-BEDNARSKI
August 27, 2025


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Federal Department of Transportation officials say they’ll manage to accomplish in two years what has stalled out in fits and starts since the 1990s: remake Penn Station.

DOT officials are expected to announce that shovels will be in the ground to start rebuilding the Midtown transit hub by the end of 2027 — a schedule set to be formally presented at the station amid a whistle-stop tour Wednesday for Amtrak’s new high-speed Acela trains.
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According to a draft timeline reviewed by The News, the government plans to structure the new Penn plan as a public-private partnership — and kick off the work with a $43 million federal grant toward preliminary engineering work.

It’s not yet clear what the federal attempt to remake Penn Station will cost. The price tag of the erstwhile MTA plan was estimated to be roughly $7 billion.

The feds will begin soliciting proposals from would-be developers in October, with the aim of selecting a master developer for the site next May.

The timeline calls for the design work and environmental review to commence thereafter, with construction beginning by the end of 2027.
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What precisely a new Penn Station will look like, though, still remains up in the air.

As for whether Madison Square Garden — which is currently perched atop the bustling transit hub — would have to move as part of a redesign, Bradbury said the feds were “agnostic.”

Byford emphasized his desire to not simply “rebuild” Penn Station, but to transform it.

“I’m talking about top-to-bottom transformation of every aspect of Penn Station,” he said. “Let’s see what more capacity we can squeeze out of the existing station within the existing footprint by better utilization of the track and by exploring the potential for through-running.”

Byford said federal railway regulators would be studying how rail capacity at Penn would improve by allowing NJ Transit trains to continue on into Long Island and vice versa — a process known as through-running — which advocates say would reduce dwell time at the station and allow for more service.

In the meantime, plans to expand Penn Station’s footprint — specifically a controversial Amtrak plan to demolish “Block 780” to the south — are on hold, Byford said.

While specific design elements will depend on what proposal the government ultimately green-lights, Bradbury spoke to a few of the things the feds are looking for.

“What we want to see is a bright, open head house with a lot of light. We want to see an open concourse,” he said. “It needs to be the kind of station that America deserves for the heart of New York City and the busiest transportation hub in the Western Hemisphere.”
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Basically, no details were provided today -- just timelines.

https://www.transportation.gov/sites...20Schedule.pdf
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Tom Klingenstein, who donated $10m to Republicans in 2024, interviewed Trump. This isn't about politics. It's about the guy who supports the Grand Penn Alliance and who is in touch with the President.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK6y-2PvCr8
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At the rate we're going the country will be in absolute chaos by then and no one will even remember this.
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Tom Klingenstein, who donated $10m to Republicans in 2024, interviewed Trump. This isn't about politics. It's about the guy who supports the Grand Penn Alliance and who is in touch with the President.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK6y-2PvCr8

No, it's about politics.

Are you seriously that naive?


I will shoot my foot off if they don't propose renaming Penn "Trump Station" as part of this. It's that much about politics. Mark my fucking words.

And if that happens I'm self deporting.
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Byford, once again, stressed through-running. He has stated repeatedly that this, in effect, requires the demolition of MSG. Today, he stated that they are evaluating moving MSG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKzLceFtGA8

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/27/n...tion-2027.html

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...concept, known as “through-running.” But Mr. Byford has expressed support for the idea and federal officials have said they would study it anew.
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Byford, once again, stressed through-running. He has stated repeatedly that this, in effect, requires the demolition of MSG. Today, he stated that they are evaluating moving MSG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKzLceFtGA8

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/27/n...tion-2027.html
Trump's interest in this is about politics. Thus his order of Real World Sean to "prioritize" this. You think he gives a shit about through running or any individual detail of a rebuilding? What he wants is to own the NYC and NYS libs with a giant marble monument to himself.

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I used to ride the LIRR a lot, and I still do periodically.

I'd like to do so from this station. In today's press conference, Andy Byford repeatedly said that moving MSG is an option that is being evaluated. Moreover, as noted, Korean investors have contacted GPA about funding this.


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The USA, the richest most accomplished nation on earth, requires financial assistance from South Korea, a former destitute nation just 70 years ago, to construct a new train station.

How's that for a miserable headline.
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The USA, the richest most accomplished nation on earth, requires financial assistance from South Korea, a former destitute nation just 70 years ago, to construct a new train station.

How's that for a miserable headline.
I don't think so. Having other countries invest in the U.S. is a good thing.


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Investing is different than having other countries literally bankroll key infrastructure and gift the tyrant in the Washington free 747's.

Those kinds of "investments" are called bribery.
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I don't think so. Having other countries invest in the U.S. is a good thing.


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Oh and just to clear something up, this is the dumbest iteration of any of the rebuilding plans. Leave half the site stupid open space with no function actually related to train travel.

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Oh and just to clear something up, this is the dumbest iteration of any of the rebuilding plans. Leave half the site stupid open space with no function actually related to train travel.

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https://www.997wpro.com/2025/08/27/d...tion-overhaul/

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. Since its 1960s demolition, the current Penn Station has struggled under overwhelming passenger loads — serving more than 600,000 daily passengers — far beyond what it was designed to handle. The erection of Madison Square Garden (MSG) above created significant structural and design limitations, complicating any deep renovations.

The opening of Moynihan Train Hall in January 2021 — inside the historic Farley Post Office — offered a bright, spacious alternative for many Amtrak and Long Island Rail Road riders, though it did little to reduce the pressure on the underground Penn Station interior.

DOT’s redevelopment plan includes a new commuter train hall, a new open concourse and new green space for the neighborhood, according to CBS News. It’s unclear if MSG will have to be relocated.
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