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Old Posted Nov 7, 2007, 4:27 PM
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Giant Spotlights? Ugh. Just what the world needs, more light pollution and energy guzzling.

I hope no one in Saint John likes star-gazing, because it just got more difficult.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2007, 4:30 PM
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Giant Spotlights? Ugh. Just what the world needs, more light pollution and energy guzzling.

I hope no one in Saint John likes star-gazing, because it just got more difficult.

Like i said, i think its a great idea. Hey, Kwajo, in case you didnt know, Saint John is the largest city in NB... NOT the backwoods of some small town. If you want to star gaze, a city is never the place. Common sense.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2007, 4:31 PM
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I know, I just found it funny that Northrup wanted everyone to be proud of his new spotlights, while in the same article he talked about using energy efficient LED Christmas lights. You can't play for both sides Troy, it doesn't work.


To be fair though, they do state that the lights will be visible from Rothesay, which is right now a decent place to observe the stars at night (although it's been getting worse over the past 20 years).
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2007, 4:35 PM
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I know, I just found it funny that Northrup wanted everyone to be proud of his new spotlights, while in the same article he talked about using energy efficient LED Christmas lights. You can't play for both sides Troy, it doesn't work.


To be fair though, they do state that the lights will be visible from Rothesay, which is right now a decent place to observe the stars at night (although it's been getting worse over the past 20 years).
Well i guess if they want the city of saint johns transit services.
Thats their price they have to pay to be part of the big city.
Its only a matter of time before they will be forced to amalgamate anyways, so im not too concerned.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2007, 4:45 PM
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Well i guess if they want the city of saint johns transit services.
Thats their price they have to pay to be part of the big city.
Its only a matter of time before they will be forced to amalgamate anyways, so im not too concerned.
Well first off, Rothesay [or at least the mayor and council] doesn't want the Transit services, they've said so. Quispamsis does though, so I guess you're right.

Secondly, I don't think amalgamation is anywhere in the near future, there hasn't been active talk about it in 10 years, and it would take at least another 10-20 before it could get done IMO. I'm not sure amalgamation would work well for SJ right now, it would stretch the city's already enormous boundaries, and make services harder to provide to outlying areas. Maybe if the city starts growing significantly in population and economy again, then it could afford to incorporate KV and Grand Bay-Westfield, but for now I don't think it would benefit anyone.



On a side note, I hate coming across as pessimistic on this forum, because it isn't how I feel about things in real life. I guess it's a consequence of me only posting when I have a negative reaction to something. Maybe I should start replying to good news more, then I'd seem more positive and unbiased, rather than just complaining about things.
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I think this is awesome !

Hollywood glitz comes to city
Tacky, tacky, tacky.
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This lighting thing is completely ludicrous.
I know SJ is working at becoming an energy hub etc. but does that permit the city to completely waste energy. Come on!
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I guess they couldn't find a big enough inflatable clowns head to float over the mall. I'm not impressed either. This seems an idea which is going to offend many people, seeing the plume from Coleson Cove float over the city is a pretty blunt reminder of the effect of wasted power. I wouldn't be surprised if there becomes a groundswell from various groups to shut the lights off.
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Giant Spotlights? Ugh. Just what the world needs, more light pollution and energy guzzling.

I hope no one in Saint John likes star-gazing, because it just got more difficult.
I'm happy I've moved away from east Saint John - its becoming so garish. I saw these lights being tested last week and it looked unneeded at best. I hope no one shops based on the search lights they see from across town - that is just bad consumer choice making.

I was hoping they were looking for Mothra when I saw the lights, but it seems not.
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a few spotlights is worth a news story? Why....
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2007, 9:15 PM
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a few spotlights is worth a news story? Why....
A few spotlights is worth all this b*tching and complaining? Why....
Some people need to find better things to do than complain about things so minor.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2007, 9:40 PM
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Also, heres the new site for Eastpoint. Was just updated. With more to come
Take a look at the bottom at what the Starbucks and Indigo are gonna look like.
Two great looking stores.
the link isnt there???

on a lighter note lets just become vegas, giant spotlights a new casino and gambling track. Lets just make east saint john an amusement park and section it off from the city, we can call it pollution world(destroying the marsh there,as well as light pollution, and contaminating there water supply(marshcreek)), with the new hotels and stores all we need is a rollarcoaster.I think if we propose it to the city they will go for it. It will be a drive in city come here wast all your money and destroy your health while we spend more money on energy that destroy's our world...talk about smart growth. If this is all they can think up, I feel bad for them. Retail is different then tacky add-ons like giant spotlights that you can never find from the road anyway and end up driving around for an hour.

Surburban sprawl makes me sick espiecally tacky shit like this. Hey but at least they will be off at 10 and wont be able to see them to much in the summer.
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the link isnt there???

on a lighter note lets just become vegas, giant spotlights a new casino and gambling track. Lets just make east saint john an amusement park and section it off from the city, we can call it pollution world(destroying the marsh there,as well as light pollution, and contaminating there water supply(marshcreek)), with the new hotels and stores all we need is a rollarcoaster.I think if we propose it to the city they will go for it. It will be a drive in city come here wast all your money and destroy your health while we spend more money on energy that destroy's our world...talk about smart growth. If this is all they can think up, I feel bad for them. Retail is different then tacky add-ons like giant spotlights that you can never find from the road anyway and end up driving around for an hour.

Surburban sprawl makes me sick espiecally tacky shit like this. Hey but at least they will be off at 10 and wont be able to see them to much in the summer.

hahah i love it.
Trashy old us.
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hey micheal_d40 do you have the link to eastpoint.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2007, 10:00 PM
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hey micheal_d40 do you have the link to eastpoint.

Its simply www.eastpointshopping.com
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Well, almost eight years later, and we still have the Hollywoodsy sign at Fort Howe introducing what any reasonably intelligent person already knows. I'll have to see the lights out east to say what I think.

I kind of like new things, so I think the lights are good for now. If I had 100 000 dollars burning a hole in my pocket, I'd do something more constructive than setting new precedents for lights in the sky; but that's me. I like the clown's head idea.

Maybe a concert would have been better... <- I just said that so I could use this...
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So the lights were visible from my place on Union last night. Oddly enough it didn't make me feel in the mood to go to Home Depot or Roots. Maybe they have to be on longer work.
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So the Indigo will also have a starbucks...wow....
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Responsible gaming policy unveiled

NB 1446

Nov. 8, 2007

FREDERICTON (CNB) -- A new responsible gaming policy unveiled today by Premier Shawn Graham and Finance Minister Victor Boudreau focuses on responsible management and responsible play, in a responsible environment.

The new policy, the most comprehensive of its kind ever introduced in the province, will bring transformational changes to gaming in New Brunswick.

Graham said there were many issues considered leading to today's announcement - but one issue in particular kept rising to the surface.

"We carefully examined all aspects of this important sector, and without a doubt, the driving force behind our action is responsibility," Graham said. "The Responsible Gaming Policy brings greater protection to the public. It brings integrity to responsible gaming activities in the province, as well as a new approach that highlights clarity, fairness, transparency, and consistency to this sector throughout New Brunswick."

Boudreau added the policy "brings major changes to gaming in our province. It brings responsibility, and takes standards and principles in the industry to a whole new level."

VLT Reform

The new Responsible Gaming Policy includes cutting the number of video lottery terminal (VLT) sites in the province by more than 50 per cent, from 625 to 300. The number of VLT machines will be reduced by nearly 25 per cent, from 2,650 to 2,000.

A moratorium will be placed on the approval of new video lottery sites for at least one year.

All video lottery terminals will be hosted in age-controlled environments. To this end, video lottery terminals will be removed from restaurants by April 2009. These sites are currently approved for up to two VLTs. One terminal will be removed from the system by Oct. 1, 2008 and the remaining will be removed from the system by April 1, 2009.

Royal Canadian Legion branches which currently have VLTs will be able to continue to operate them under the new model.

New Responsible Gaming Initiatives

The policy also includes launching the most comprehensive responsible gaming initiatives ever seen in New Brunswick.

Responsible gaming funding will double to $1.5 million.

Addiction services programs delivered by the Department of Health will receive an additional investment of $250,000 above current funding of $757,000.

In addition, more efforts will go toward research, prevention and education awareness campaigns, with an investment of $500,000 through the Lotteries Commission of New Brunswick.

Focused education campaigns will be launched so that New Brunswickers can make more informed choices.

The Province will establish corporate social responsibility standards which will include training of staff at VLT sites. Responsible advertising standards and practices will also be developed.

Stronger Charitable Gaming Policy

Many charitable organizations depend on bingos, raffles, Monte Carlo nights and similar events to raise money for worthy causes. The importance of these events for the charitable organizations was recently stressed in the Premier's Task Force on the Community Non-Profit Sector.

Legislation will be introduced to provide regulatory-making authority with respect to charitable gaming activities. At the same time, the government will review ways of assuring red tape and costs for charities are controlled, to make sure funds raised go to those who need them the most without undue delay.

Also, a program for the licensing of charitable Texas Hold 'Em tournaments, a popular form of card play which charities have been asking permission to host, will be licensed starting in 2008.

An evaluation of the proposed new charitable gaming policies will be undertaken with input from charitable gaming licensees.

Tourism Initiatives

Statistics show that the number of tourists visiting N.B. has dropped considerably from 2002 to 2006, from two million visitors to 1.57 million - a decrease of nearly 25 per cent. While there may be a slight increase in visitors in 2007, Boudreau said it is imperative that the five-year downward trend from 2002 to 2006 is addressed, as the province needs to be strong in all sectors, including tourism, as it continues towards the path to self-sufficiency by 2026.

One way the tourism sector can be bolstered is by offering visitors more services, attractions and entertainment choices.

As such, it was also announced today that the Lotteries Commission of New Brunswick, on behalf of government, will issue a Request for Proposals (RFP) for a destination casino in the province. This would make New Brunswick the ninth province in Canada to authorize a casino and/or racino complex.

Adding a destination casino into the variety of attractions which draw people to New Brunswick is seen a means of broadening the visitation experience choices for tourists coming to the province. It is also believed it will help keep some tourists in the province longer.

Further, the provisions for ancillary services which will be part of the proposals made on a destination casino will weigh heavily in the assessment process.

Ancillary services could include, but are not limited to: a standard-bred horse racing facility, hotel, performance theatre, meeting or trade and convention facilities, special events venues, restaurants, lounges or specialty restaurants, retail facilities, or recreation facilities.

Boudreau emphasized that absolutely no government funding will be involved in the design, construction, equipping, financing or operation of the destination casino complex. An independent third party consultant, KPMG LLP, has been engaged to oversee the development of the RFP as well as the evaluation of the bids. The company will also act as the fairness monitor for the submission and evaluation process. This RFP for the destination casino will be open to interested parties, including private entities, First Nations, and the harness racing industry.

The RFP does not specify a location for the destination casino complex. Proponents will undertake their own a market assessment and select an appropriate site for the facilities based on their analysis of the market potential.

The Lotteries Commission will enter into an agreement with the successful bidder, and it is anticipated that a destination casino complex will be in operation in 2010. It would make New Brunswick the ninth province in Canada to authorize casino or racino gaming.

"Besides creating a new destination for visitors to the province, it has been shown in other jurisdictions that the spin-offs in jobs, services, and other industries are very beneficial to a community, and province, which have a destination casino," Boudreau said.

Further initiatives to boost tourism will also be announced in the months ahead.

Building Partnerships

The government recognizes that First Nations communities have very specific interests, requirements and challenges in relation to gaming.

In 2006-2007, the provincial government returned $7.5 million to eight First Nations communities through gaming revenue sharing agreements.

Following on a dialogue that the government has been having with First Nations communities over the last several weeks, Boudreau noted government is committed to immediate action through the Mi'kmaq, Maliseet, New Brunswick Relationship Building Bilateral Agreement, and other avenues of bilateral dialogue, to engage and involve First Nations and aboriginal organizations in the new approach to responsible gaming.

Talks will begin on formal development of First Nations Economies and Sustainability, which includes responsible gaming.

http://www.gnb.ca/0162/gaming/Gaming_policy-e.asp.
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Spotlights IMHO are for special events....I'd be in full agreement in firing up some lights over Harbour station or the Imperial theatre on show nights for a few hours....it draws attention and potentially more crowds....but every evening? at a mall? it's irresponsible and frivolous from an energy conservation perspective.....from an aesthetic point of view, while beuaty of course is in the eye of the beholder, this screams of tackiness....it may be impressive to 17 year old kids, however....which now that i think about it makes sense as teens would be the target demographic....
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