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Old Posted Jul 19, 2007, 4:52 AM
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RONA Entrepot and RENO DEPOT (same ownership) are all mega size over here, walmart size.
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RONA Entrepot and RENO DEPOT (same ownership) are all mega size over here, walmart size.
Yes, but there are also lots of small neighbourhood-sized RONA stores.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2007, 5:04 AM
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thats why I said Entrepot.

plus I doubt Lowes would be intrested in those tiny ones because they're a big box chain.
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i somehow doubt Rona went through all the effort of buying out it's competitor in Québec(Réno-Déôt) just to let Lowe's buy them out!
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Canadian consumers are clamouring for U.S. brands, so why are American retailers scared to cross the border?

Next time you're at the mall, ignore, if you can, the larger-than-life supermodel staring back at you from behind the glass at La Senza, the Apple store's high-tech gadgets, and the overpowering scent wafting from Abercrombie & Fitch. Instead, focus on whether you're getting everything you really want. Because no matter how all-American everything appears, Canadians continue to miss out on the much wider selection of goods and lower prices afforded to our southern neighbours. And it affects how we shop.
Shopping in a large American mall, say experts, devalues a Canadian's experience back home. It causes retail envy -- the sense that your shopping bag in Canada is half empty -- which can be damaging to the bottom line of Canadian business. In fact, some say that just the knowledge that many of the brands people see advertised on TV are not available to them can affect consumers' general sense of satisfaction. "There can be a let down when people go to a mall in Canada and don't find all the brands that they know are out there," says Robert Hutton, the executive vice-president of Pollara, a Toronto-based market research firm. "It affects their purchases from other retailers."

Although an increasing number of U.S. chains have set up in Canada in recent years (just last month, for instance, Forever 21, another of the trendy, low-priced American clothing stores, opened its Canadian flagship store in downtown Toronto), many stay away. In fact, there are dozens of big-name, only-in-America holdouts -- including department stores (Lord & Taylor, Macy's and Saks Fifth Avenue), clothing chains (J.Crew, Kenneth Cole and Anthropologie) and personal care shops (Bath & Body Works).

But perhaps no U.S. shopping experience is more coveted than an afternoon at Target. The deep-discount department store, with its racks of dirt-cheap designer duds, has a huge following among border-hopping shoppers from Canada. For some hard-core enthusiasts, Target is the only required stop on a day trip to the U.S. (unless of course there's time to hit another Target across town). But the chain's popularity breeds contempt -- and shoppers are apt to take aim at retailers back home. "If someone goes to Target and then comes back to Canada and shops at Zellers or Wal-Mart they aren't as happy," says Maureen Atkinson, a senior partner at J.C. Williams Group, a Toronto-based retail consulting firm. "They become more demanding, less satisfied."

While retail envy is an issue for the budget conscious among us, Atkinson says that it is even more likely to affect those shopping for luxury goods. "If you're spending $2,000 on something, you want exactly what you want," she says. "So if the Chanel store in Toronto doesn't have the same selection as the Chanel store in Paris, you might wait to go there."

On both the high and low end of the spectrum, this diminished selection of goods helps to explain why so many Canadians shop on the Internet. In 2005, Canadian adults placed more than 50 million orders and spent $7.9 billion online. And that doesn't even include the under-18 set. While companies like J.Crew and Victoria's Secret make it quite easy for Canadians to shop online, for many people logging on still doesn't replace the feeling that comes from uncovering that hidden gem in the sale section of your favourite store.

There is certainly no shortage of success stories when it comes to American retailers coming to Canada. Many -- including Best Buy, Home Depot and the Pottery Barn -- have become dominant players in their respective categories. So if we're such an easy target, why aren't more U.S. chains taking a shot? Especially considering the geographic proximity and cultural similarities between the two countries. It turns out, the list of reasons is long. Some companies determine the move to be too costly, due to Canada's higher taxes and the costs associated with setting up the necessary corporate infrastructure. Other companies worry that Canadian consumers will lose interest in brands that they lusted over while on vacation if they're suddenly easy to get -- Old Navy, for example, entered the Canadian market in 2001 amid great fanfare but has seen interest cool off rapidly.

For others, Canada's small population is a major turnoff. The concern for high-end retailers isn't so much the overall head count, but the size of their target market. That's a problem, says David Gray, of Sixth Line Solutions, a Vancouver-based retail consulting firm, because "there are probably as many super wealthy people in Florida as there are in Canada." And there may be bigger and better opportunities in other parts of the world -- or perhaps within the U.S. domestic market. Earlier this year, Target announced that their main focus right now is building the brand at home (the company hopes to expand from their current 1,502 American stores to about 2,500 in the U.S. by 2017), and markets beyond their borders could wait.

Much of this, according to other experts, misses the big picture. "Quite a few major U.S. retailers don't understand the Canadian market," says Hutton. "They haven't taken the time to look at it or simply undervalue it." Large American chains lacking northern exposure may be looking at Canada's existing retail landscape, he says, instead of the "potential landscape" that includes them in it as well. "It's easy for a company to do a survey of shoppers and find out there is not enough demand," he says. "It's a very different thing to do a survey that finds out 'if we were here, what would the demand be?' " Of course others, not wanting to start from scratch, may simply be waiting for the right deal to come along (when Wal-Mart and Best Buy first broke into Canada, they acquired real estate through buyouts, which made the transition a little bit easier).

Many argue that Canada is a great testing ground for American companies trying to develop a global strategy. And it's not like we don't have money to spend. "The potential is here," says Hutton. "The level of awareness of U.S. brands in Canada is extraordinarily high." Data, compiled by Pollara, reveals that Canadians rate U.S. retailers higher than Canadian ones when it comes to customer service and overall enjoyability -- in some cases, without even having been to the store. We just assume it's better.

This heightened awareness of the next best thing leads to another common frustration. Often highly buzzed-about products are not made available in Canada until months after hitting the shelves in the U.S. Some think that this exclusionary rollout strategy is a big mistake. "Canadians are very strong early adopters -- more so than Americans and Europeans," says Hutton. "By ignoring Canada early on, you ultimately reduce demand for the product." Hutton claims that Canadians are better than Americans at getting the word out about new products, which can really pay off for a company trying to advance a brand. "While Rome or Tokyo may seem more glamorous," he says, "Canadians have greater street-level influence."

That helps to explain why so few U.S. chains have failed after making the move to Canada. Often these deep-pocketed multinationals identify an underdeveloped market and capitalize on pent-up demand among Canadian consumers, at least in the short term while setting things up. And once here, the competitiveness of American chains often changes the rules of retail engagement.

Unfortunately, the same can't be said about most Canadian firms that have tried to go south. The list of companies that tanked in their efforts to break into the U.S. include Canadian Tire, Mark's Work Wearhouse and Future Shop. An overall lack of brand awareness is one major challenge since Canadian advertisements don't trickle down to Americans. Making things tougher is the fact that U.S. retailers are generally considered to be stronger, more innovative competitors. "There are a lot of stories of Canadian retailers going south, putting a foot in the water, getting a little burned and heading back," says Gray. "When Americans come to Canada they commit to it. And even if there are problems early on, they invest what they need to make it work. They're more competitive. We call it cutthroat. To them, it's just good business."

The competition -- in fact, the mere threat of expansion from the U.S. -- is thought to be one factor keeping homegrown retailers sharp. "The weak and the unstrategic have gone by the wayside in Canada," says Gray. Companies are forced to work harder to secure enough of the market and make coming to Canada not all that enticing for American retailers. Take, for instance, the Canadian drugstore market. Shoppers Drug Mart and Rexall, among others, have done such a good job cornering the market that American companies don't consider it worth their time.

Most Canadian retail sectors, however, have plenty of room for more players. And the strength of the loonie is sure to complicate matters by sending Canadians over the border in record numbers this summer -- day trips that will result in trunks filled with shopping bags and a greater awareness among Canadian consumers of what's missing in malls back home.
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I don't get it, Canada should be very happy that Zellers is positioning itself to be the Canadian Answer to Target. They have been renovating and opening new locations that look very Target-esque on the inside.
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I don't get it, Canada should be very happy that Zellers is positioning itself to be the Canadian Answer to Target. They have been renovating and opening new locations that look very Target-esque on the inside.

Not only that, but Zellers already carries many of the same brands and products that Target sells.

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I don't get it, Canada should be very happy that Zellers is positioning itself to be the Canadian Answer to Target. They have been renovating and opening new locations that look very Target-esque on the inside.
...and should have been satisfied with Second Cup (in Toronto at least) before Starbucks in invaded in the 90s, but it simply doesn't work that way. As great a store as Caban was, a Crate and Barrel would have destroyed it.

It's also interesting that when Canadian stores like Roots and Lululemon break out in the states, it's especially good for the Canadian stores- it's like a mark of affirmation. Similarly when international companies start in Canada before US expansion (Ikea, Lush). We need validation, I think.
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Not only that, but Zellers already carries many of the same brands and products that Target sells.

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"many"?!?!

...and that's the problem with Canadian retaill!!!

Canadians will settle for "many"... when they should be demanding for "all"

Wal-Mart Canada is a joke compared to the American one, and Zellers can't even hold a candle to Target.
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"many"?!?!

...and that's the problem with Canadian retaill!!!

Canadians will settle for "many"... when they should be demanding for "all"

Wal-Mart Canada is a joke compared to the American one, and Zellers can't even hold a candle to Target.
Here's a Zellers commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jFFJ8ifgj8

That's very Target-esque with a very distinct Canada twist.

I thought Canadians wanted American influence and still maintain their cultural identity? That's why you have Zellers instead of Target, TSN instead of ESPN, and why you had Real Canadian Superstore long before Wal-Mart Supercenter. You should want to stay Canadian with American influence at arm's length right?
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Zellers is owned by An American now

Caban was owned by Ralph Lauren - American too

Roots was started by Americans
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Zellers is owned by An American now

Caban was owned by Ralph Lauren - American too

Roots was started by Americans
Zellers is still only operating in Canada. The American that owns it is by proxy, so that way it's still technically and legally Canadian. Bottom line is that in a couple years, Zellers will be 100% finished with their Target-ization and only then will the American Investor seek to sell to Target.

Meantime, embrace Zellers for being a good Canadian company. Truly
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Roots was started by Americans
make that American ex-pats- the best kind of Americans.
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Cabaret makes way for American Apparel


AN Osborne Village cabaret will soon shut its doors to make way for international clothing company American Apparel.
It plans to open its first Winnipeg store at 108 Osborne St., currently home to indie music venue Collective Cabaret and Die Maschine dance club.

It's the second live-music venue in the city to be sold off in recent weeks.

The business was previously owned by Wayne Towns, who just a few weeks ago sold the iconic Royal Albert Arms Hotel -- another popular destination for independent bands -- to spa and salon owner Daren Jorgenson.

Towns couldn't be reached for comment Tuesday.

Talent buyer Sam Smith, who arranges concerts for both the Albert and the Collective Cabaret, said the sale was finalized last week.
The sale of the property to Los Angeles-based American Apparel, a company known for its anti-sweatshop stance and risque, Polaroid-style advertisements, has excited some business owners in the neighbourhood.

But it's disappointing news for music fans still reeling from the sale of the Royal Albert. The venues are mainstays on the local music scene, hosting everything from punk shows to hip-hop acts.

"Everybody's pretty busted up about it," said Smith, who said the Collective will host its last show August 30.

Rumours had been circulating for months that American Apparel was eyeing Osborne Village for a possible store. The company's official website lists the Osborne store as "coming soon," but doesn't give a date.

Representatives at the chain couldn't be reached Tuesday.

The store will occupy both the main floor and the basement of the Osborne location, said Smith.

Judy Coy, owner of nearby jewelry boutique Silver Lotus, said American Apparel would make "a good flagship store" for Osborne Village, and shows businesses want to invest in the area.

"From what I know, I think it's a positive thing," she said. Osborne Village BIZ executive director Tremaine Burrows said he expects the chain will be "a welcome addition to some of the really great fashion retailers we have in the neighbourhood."

Burrows said while it's disappointing to lose a live music venue, he believes Osborne is already well-served by businesses such as the Gas Station Theatre, The Zoo, and the Toad in the Hole pub.

"Yes, it's sad to see a venue for local musicians and out-of-town musicians disappear, but you know what? There's still lots of great music in Osborne Village," he said.

Smith said there's still high demand from bands looking for a place to play, and expects another venue will soon pop up to fill the gap caused by the two closures.

"It's sad to see them go, but I'm sure there's going to be other opportunities down the road," he said.

Meanwhile, there have also been persistent rumours that H&M, the hip Swedish clothing chain that took Toronto by storm in 2004, has sent representatives to Winnipeg to scout for locations.

An H&M spokeswoman would not confirm the reports, calling them "purely rumours." But Laura Shankland said the company is always scouting for new locations and is focusing on Western Canada right now, with new stores in Alberta and one about to open in Vancouver. She said no decisions have been made about the location of future stores.

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The owner of the Fairweather fashion chain, which isn't exactly creating a buzz in the mall, is betting that his new i&F store will steal a page from the fast-fashion powerhouse H&M that has helped transform the business worldwide.

Isaac Benitah, a retail magnate in Canada, quietly launched the i&F chain earlier this month with its first outlet in Montreal and an ambitious expansion plan.

"It is rapidly proving to be a very viable concept that we will look to grow across Canada," said Dana Busse, a vice-president at Mr. Benitah's privately held I.N.C. Group of Companies.

Like the retailer it emulates, i&F knocks off the latest designs from the fashion runways, produces them within weeks and sells them as cheap-chic "disposable fashion."

Fairweather, a decades-old name in retailing, also carries low-priced fashions but offers safer styles for an older customer.

Now that fast fashion is gaining a loyal following in Canada, Mr. Benitah wants a piece of the action. He tried to bring some cachet to Fairweather last year when he introduced a new line by flamboyant New York designer Isaac Mizrahi. Years earlier, Mr. Mizrahi had helped put U.S. discounter Target Corp. on the cheap-chic map.

But the Mizrahi collection doesn't seem to have worked its magic on Fairweather, said Kaileen Millard-Ruff, fashion director at market researcher NPD Group. The line is more conservative than the one at Target, and hasn't been marketed as aggressively.

Fairweather, while profitable, is a tired name that is losing ground in the mall, she said.

Since 2001, when Mr. Benitah snapped it up from the bankrupt Dylex Ltd., its share of the $9-billion Canadian women's wear market has shrunk by more than half, to 0.5 per cent, according to NPD figures. The chain has faced an array of new rivals, not the least of which being savvy fast-fashion players H&M of Sweden and Zara of Spain.

The typically low-profile Mr. Benitah declined to be interviewed, and Mr. Busse would not comment on the market share data. He would say only that Fairweather is "doing quite fine."

Fairweather is but one player in Mr. Benitah's retail portfolio. He and his brother, Fred Benitah, control between them such retailers as International Clothiers, Randy River and home decor specialists Benix & Co. and the recently acquired Bowrings.

Isaac Benitah got started years ago working for retail mogul Michael Gold, who also shies away from the limelight. The two are friends and were close to buying Fairweather together in the early part of the decade before Mr. Gold backed out, sources have said.

Mr. Gold's own considerable holdings include clothiers Suzy Shier, Bluenotes (formerly Thriftys), Stitches and the recently acquired Athletes World. Together, the Benitahs and Mr. Gold - some call them the three musketeers - are a powerful force in today's retail world.

"These guys were the kings of fast fashion long before H&M and Zara landed in Canada," Ms. Millard-Ruff said. But that was a different age, before H&M and Zara arrived, she added.

If i&F is successful, Mr. Benitah might replace some of the weaker Fairweather stores, which cater only to women, with the new concept, which is targeted to men and women, Ms. Millard-Ruff predicted. Mr. Busse, however, said that is not the intention.

Mr. Benitah has built his empire with a lucrative formula. He keeps expenses down with low overhead costs, cheap overseas production and economies of scale. He has clout with landlords because of his vast number of stores.

Still, he is increasingly feeling the strains of a tighter field. Mr. Benitah seems to be struggling to redefine the once-chic Quebec department store chain Les Ailes de la Mode, which was ailing when he picked it up about two years ago.

Today Mr. Benitah is rolling the dice with i&F, the H&M copycat. Even the enigmatic name resembles H&M. Some figure the letters are short for Isaac and Fred or, others say, International Fairweather. Still others suggest they stand for Independence and Fashion. "Everyone's guessing," Mr. Busse said.
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Perhaps thinking of its many retired members with time on their hands, the Ontario Municipal Employees Retirement System has agreed to buy a 32-store chain of golf equipment stores.

OMERS, one of the country's biggest public pension funds, is to pay about $209 million for Golf Town Income Fund, which calls itself the largest golf equipment retailer in Canada.

The Markham, Ont., company — which converted itself into a fund in 2004 when income trusts were all the rage — announced the deal early Monday. It retains the right to seek competing bids until Sept. 19, it said.

For Golf Town's current owners, the OMERS deal works out to $17.15 per unit, which is $3.39 more than Friday's closing price on the Toronto Stock Exchange.

In Monday morning trading, the price was up 24 per cent at $17.01, which suggests that a higher bid was not widely expected. The 52-week trading range was $9.30 to $17.12.

Golf Town chairman Marshall Cohen said the deal "provides significant value and liquidity to our unitholders."

Unitholders are to vote on it Sept. 21. If they accept it, the proceeds will be distributed them and the fund wound up.

"The transaction is also positive for our employees, vendors, and customers," Cohen continued in a written statement, "because of the opportunity they have in partnering with OMERS, which has an outstanding track record in building strong enterprises and which shares our commitment to our customers, employees and the markets we serve."

Paul Renaud, head of OMERS' private equity investment division, said in the statement, "Golf Town is a real Canadian success story. We are investing with an exceptional management team and are very excited about the opportunity to continue to grow the business."
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That is such bad news. Yet another chain store ruining Queen West even more.
Yet one more reason not to even step foot on Queen West anymore, since all the stores can be found in your local mall now.

The city of Toronto should really have a bylaw limiting stores like H&M. We really don't need three H&M's downtown, ruining our unique streets. One store at the Eaton Centre was more then enough for the downtown.
Now you gotta trek all the way out to Ossington to even find a sort of vibe of the old Queen West.
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So what retailers other than say a Hudson Bay trading post would be met with your approval?
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So what retailers other than say a Hudson Bay trading post would be met with your approval?
2 Words.

Trump Steaks.

Can't get much more corporate then that.
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