[Dartmouth] Little Brooklyn (Wyse & Nantucket) | ? M | 40-40-36-36-10 FL | U/C

[Dmajackson]

Halifax has posted the Construction Management Plan for this project. It's nice to see a large, urban core development without any pedestrian impacts. They are also on schedule so far.


Halifax Developments.ca (Photo by David Jackson)

[terrynorthend]

Okay, here's a weird thing. The document even says 40 story building. But the rendering counts at most 33, and in the appendix, there's a plan that says "29 story bldg"

What's going on?

Originally Posted by Dmajackson

Halifax has posted the Construction Management Plan for this project. It's nice to see a large, urban core development without any pedestrian impacts. They are also on schedule so far.


Halifax Developments.ca (Photo by David Jackson)

[someone123]

Originally Posted by terrynorthend

Okay, here's a weird thing. The document even says 40 story building. But the rendering counts at most 33, and in the appendix, there's a plan that says "29 story bldg"

What's going on?

I don't know for certain but I believe the 40 storey limit was approved last year in response to federal housing policies. I'd guess 33 and 29 are from outdated materials.

[worldlyhaligonian]

Originally Posted by someone123

I don't know for certain but I believe the 40 storey limit was approved last year in response to federal housing policies. I'd guess 33 and 29 are from outdated materials.

Do you think the engineering has to change significantly with height added?

[Arrdeeharharharbour]

A few progress pics taken yesterday...

PXL_20251128_185420180 by A.J. Forsythe, on Flickr


PXL_20251128_185410822 by A.J. Forsythe, on Flickr


PXL_20251128_185433286 by A.J. Forsythe, on Flickr

[Saul Goode]

The crane-cluttered area around the bridge plaza will look that much busier when the crane for this one goes up, the one on the Manga project rises a few more storeys above its surroundings, and the one at The Nest emerges.

If the Preszler bunch ever get off their duffs and start their flatiron building on the Nantucket-Wyse corner we'll have a total crane jungle. Anyone have inside poop on where that one stands?

[terrynorthend]

Originally Posted by Saul Goode

The crane-cluttered area around the bridge plaza will look that much busier when the crane for this one goes up, the one on the Manga project rises a few more storeys above its surroundings, and the one at The Nest emerges.

If the Preszler bunch ever get off their duffs and start their flatiron building on the Nantucket-Wyse corner we'll have a total crane jungle. Anyone have inside poop on where that one stands?

As of this summer they were waiting for the go-ahead from council to get their final height (22 or 24 floors- can't remember exactly) but I remember Sam Austin went to bat for them over how long the process was taking. It seems they are working under an old DA process.

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by terrynorthend

As of this summer they were waiting for the go-ahead from council to get their final height (22 or 24 floors- can't remember exactly) but I remember Sam Austin went to bat for them over how long the process was taking. It seems they are working under an old DA process.

They need to take a hint from our former Prime Minister and dangle a sack of gold in front of the planners to get the necessary approvals.

[someone123]

Originally Posted by worldlyhaligonian

Do you think the engineering has to change significantly with height added?

Not sure; I don't have any sort of special knowledge of this area, but maybe somebody with more engineering background can comment.

As a building gets taller there are more demands on the structure and services including elevators. I've heard before that 30 storeys is a bit of an inflection point but I'm not sure how accurate that is.

[Saul Goode]

This one seems to be taking a while to emerge from the hole. Anyone know what's happening on the site?

[Musicman Halifax]

Originally Posted by Saul Goode

This one seems to be taking a while to emerge from the hole. Anyone know what's happening on the site?

Still digging the hole from what I see. If memory serves me correctly there is also some soil remediation going on as well.

[ArchAficionado]

Have to say, I wonder if it's time for NS to start permitting buildings with podium parking levels that are built on piles. It seems like every new development has an enormous excavation for subgrade parking levels that adds a lot of duration (cost) to these projects. On the Halifax side, I understand this to be largely a function of the excessive height constraints - developers want everything above grade to be units. Perhaps we shouldn't be limiting building height so much then?

[eastcoastal]

Originally Posted by ArchAficionado

Have to say, I wonder if it's time for NS to start permitting buildings with podium parking levels that are built on piles. It seems like every new development has an enormous excavation for subgrade parking levels that adds a lot of duration (cost) to these projects. On the Halifax side, I understand this to be largely a function of the excessive height constraints - developers want everything above grade to be units. Perhaps we shouldn't be limiting building height so much then?

Cunard Residences (Water Polo, Tribute, etc. at grade) has parking above grade and it ends up looking pretty odd to have a few "blank" facades at between at-grade uses and the residential floors above, in my opinion.

[someone123]

Originally Posted by eastcoastal

Cunard Residences (Water Polo, Tribute, etc. at grade) has parking above grade and it ends up looking pretty odd to have a few "blank" facades at between at-grade uses and the residential floors above, in my opinion.

Yeah, it usually looks worse. Underground parking is pretty common in many Canadian cities. I think Cunard was like this because of potential water-related issues.

There are some nice garages that do a good job of camouflaging the parking. Some go as far as to add fake windows. There are some others that were designed in an interesting way, but they no doubt have bigger budgets.

https://benedante.blogspot.com/2011/...ami-beach.html

[Musicman Halifax]

Originally Posted by someone123

Yeah, it usually looks worse. Underground parking is pretty common in many Canadian cities. I think Cunard was like this because of potential water-related issues.

There are some nice garages that do a good job of camouflaging the parking. Some go as far as to add fake windows. There are some others that were designed in an interesting way, but they no doubt have bigger budgets.

https://benedante.blogspot.com/2011/...ami-beach.html

The Roy is an example of this. Levels 3-6 (if I remember correctly) from Barington street are parking levels.

[Dartguard]

Originally Posted by eastcoastal

Cunard Residences (Water Polo, Tribute, etc. at grade) has parking above grade and it ends up looking pretty odd to have a few "blank" facades at between at-grade uses and the residential floors above, in my opinion.

The Spatz group however have used the 'empty" space as a night time lighting enhancement. It really gives a refined look to the waterfront after dark

[someone123]

True. I believe The Roy has a car elevator too. My impression is that Cunard turned out pretty well in person and is a nice building, but I haven't seen it in person. Southwest generally seems to have nice buildings.

Around here there was one tower proposed with 14 levels of underground parking. You'd have a 10 minute commute leaving the parking.

[HfxGuy]

I believe this building will have both below grade and above grade parking believe it or not. Seems like a lot of parking, but from what I’ve heard the 2nd and 3rd floor of the podium will be parking…