General Vancouver Development Updates II - Page 6

jollyburger · #**101** Posted **Dec 12, 2023, 9:16 PM**

Public hearing this week for that project on Dec 14

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/1710-1730-e-pender-st

GenWhy? · #**102** Posted **Dec 12, 2023, 9:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Changing City

The 800 Commercial 'Special Site' was allowed 12 storeys in the Grandview Plan, and they're proposing a 'modest' increase to 15.

1730 E Pender was only a 6 storey site in the plan, so they're going for broke, and looking to match the datum height of the 13 storey existing tower that's three blocks away (up the hill) at Adanac.

Very eeeenteresting. Thanks!

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**103** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 1:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

At least it's on the south side so it'll dry out (but it does face the prevailing westerlies).
At 15 storeys in a driving rain storm it won't be pleasant to come home with bags of groceries or anything you want to keep dry.

it feels like we are still trying to go after the southern cali style of buildings. leak condo did the same thing. who wants to be outside in the rain, wind, etc at the 10th floor? thats just; unpleasant.

we arent some tropical/warm enviroment where we can just be outside in shorts all the time. our summers are relatively short. most of the year its cold/wet/windy/etc. and the higher you go, the windier it will get.

jollyburger · #**104** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 1:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

it feels like we are still trying to go after the southern cali style of buildings. leak condo did the same thing. who wants to be outside in the rain, wind, etc at the 10th floor? thats just; unpleasant.

we arent some tropical/warm enviroment where we can just be outside in shorts all the time. our summers are relatively short. most of the year its cold/wet/windy/etc. and the higher you go, the windier it will get.

Then I guess you don't need balconies either.

GenWhy? · #**105** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 2:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

really? exterior corridor? sigh. when will we learn how thats a terrible idea.

I think most people take the elevator

madog222 · #**106** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 2:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by GenWhy?

I think most people take the elevator

One accesses the elevator from the open air corridor.

jollyburger · #**107** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 2:56 AM**

I wonder how noticeable the wind speed difference would be in a 15 storey tower. A lot of those South False Creek coop housing have exterior corridors I believe..

Changing City · #**108** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 3:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by madog222

One accesses the elevator from the open air corridor.

It's not an entirely 'open air' corridor. The booklet shows a reasonably substantial brick arched screen.

madog222 · #**109** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 3:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by Changing City

It's not an entirely 'open air' corridor. The booklet shows a reasonably substantial brick arched screen.

Yes, that's what I would call open air where it's protected from the elements save for a heavy wind which is rare in Vancouver.

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

I wonder how noticeable the wind speed difference would be in a 15 storey tower. A lot of those South False Creek coop housing have exterior corridors I believe..

There's also a 50+ storey tower in the West End with exterior corridors.

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**110** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 3:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

Then I guess you don't need balconies either.

i dont have to lug in whatever i am carrying from the balcony.

it depends how open this is. i liked it when in hawaii, it was very lovely. but here? ehhhhhh.

officedweller · #**111** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 4:04 AM**

Probably doesn't apply to 15 storeys, but you also wonder how exterior wind loads impact elevator shaft air pressure.

Migrant_Coconut · #**112** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 4:56 AM**

Methinks it depends on the execution. For example, Singapore has monsoons that make ours look like scattered showers, but they keep building exterior breezeways anyway - I guess that means they work.

jollyburger · #**113** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 5:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Probably doesn't apply to 15 storeys, but you also wonder how exterior wind loads impact elevator shaft air pressure.

I guess a lot of of the elevator shaft issues is due to the temperature differences in a sealed tower (stack effect) or if any of the wind is infiltrating into the building in some uncontrolled way.

https://www.slrconsulting.com/insigh...-stack-effect/

I guess exterior wind loads are probably more of a problem with either noise or the structural load on the tower?

officedweller · #**114** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 7:57 AM**

I was wondering about elevator door allignments as well.

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Weird "front porches" on that breezeway.

No direct sunlight for plants that far setback, and I suspect, as shown,
it'll become a messy storage area for stuff.
Hopefully there would be drains in the floors for rainwater and planter overflows and faucets to hose down the area.

Artistic rendering of the social housing tower at 800 Commercial Drive, Vancouver. (Human Studio Architecture & Urban Design/City of Vancouver)
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/800-...-housing-tower

madog222 · #**115** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 8:10 AM**

Looking closer there are doors separating the elevator landing though the same flooring is continued inside. We’ll need to wait for the DP for a more detailed plan.

MalcolmTucker · #**116** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 3:49 PM**

The patio corridor gardens are clearly inspired by streets in the sky of Robin Hood Gardens by Alison and Peter Smithson.

Should work better with modern security access into the tower itself, reducing the eyes on the street problem.

WarrenC12 · #**117** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 5:48 PM**

I have a covered balcony and it's fine in all but the biggest wind storms. That area is even more protected and looks like a cool outdoor space.

djmk · #**118** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 5:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

The patio corridor gardens are clearly inspired by streets in the sky of Robin Hood Gardens by Alison and Peter Smithson.

Should work better with modern security access into the tower itself, reducing the eyes on the street problem.

I got habitat 67 vibes

jollyburger · #**119** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 6:05 PM**

For the Tesla service centre in East Van

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We will be consolidating four existing facilities into this one flagship location

Great Northern Way, Powell Street, 4th Avenue and ?

Two levels of underground parking

88 Service Bays

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Expected hours of operation for this Tesla Service Center are Monday through Saturday from 7:30AM to 7:00PM and
on Sundays from 10:00AM to 6:00PM. Vehicle servicing will operate two shifts daily. The first shift is from 6am-3pm
and the second from 3pm-11pm. Total employee count is expected to be approximately 140 employees, +/- 100 of
which would be certified technicians (mechanics) and service support staff, of which about 40 will be working at any
given time.

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/908-raymur-ave

WarrenC12 · #**120** Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 6:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

For the Tesla service centre in East Van

Great Northern Way, Powell Street, 4th Avenue and ?

Two levels of underground parking

88 Service Bays

In the past I have seen cars waiting for delivery down around Marine Drive, but I thought they did that all on GNW these days. Literally just a storage yard too, not somewhere customers would go. 88 service bays in insane though.