NEW YORK | 350 Park Avenue | 1,413 FT | 62 FLOORS

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by BonoboZill4

The backside looks to be entirely blank elevator core... this one will be ugly as sin

The back (western) side of this tower won't be what you think it will, though a portion of it will be for the core. The view of it will be mostly blocked by the taller Tower Fifth, so we are at least lucky the best side of the tower will face the east.

[BonoboZill4]

Originally Posted by JMKeynes

That’s a Foster trademark. The elevator banks are back there. If this were proposed for Chicago, there’d be a front-page story in the Trib. As with 2 WTC, every US city would love to have this.

Chicagoans would hate it. It would be front page, sure, but it wouldn't be something they'd want. It'd be there out of disgust lol

[JMKeynes]

Originally Posted by BonoboZill4

Chicagoans would hate it. It would be front page, sure, but it wouldn't be something they'd want. It'd be there out of disgust lol

Disingenuous per se.

[BonoboZill4]

Originally Posted by JMKeynes

Disingenuous per se.

You must be quite unfamiliar with Blair Kamin and his social sway in Chicago then.

[Busy Bee]

A little similar?

[chris08876]

I see what he's saying. Somewhat shares similar design styles. Kinda"ish".

Even if subject to change (if that even occurs), I'd be curious to see an up close rendering of that crown (Penn East).

[NYguy]

Yes, they are similar in form, but design-wise, also very different.

[Zerton]

I don't mind architects recycling basic design ideas if they're good ideas. Reminds me of the Solow Building and the Grace Building, both in NYC by the architect Gordon Bunshaft. He was all about that tapering massing.

I think it's kind of neat having two similar buildings in the same city. Sort of like the twin-spire/antenna trend in Chicago.

Now if the new Chase Building is also a wedge design, that will be a little crazy.

[Hudson11]

fortunately, from the massings, we already know 270 Park will differ.

[NYguy]

I don't think the shape here dictates that they are the same, just as I don't think two bix designs are the same because they are boxes. I think what most caught me off guard is the fact that you don't have it in New York. So naturally it's what you think of.

[BXFrank]

I’m lost with all these new proposals, can someone make a rendering of all these 1,400+ footers going up?

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by BXFrank

I’m lost with all these new proposals, can someone make a rendering of all these 1,400+ footers going up?

Credit goes to Thomas Koloski

Click spoiler to see rendering or projection of the super tall capital being born.

Via Thomas Koloski

[BXFrank]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Credit goes to Thomas Koloski

Click spoiler to see rendering or projection of the super tall capital being born.

Via Thomas Koloski

Thanks that’s amazing, is only a matter of time for a megatall to emerge

[pianowizard]

Originally Posted by BXFrank

only a matter of time for a megatall to emerge

Agreed. The reason why many of us are "lost with all these new proposals" is that they are all roughly in the same height range, so none of them really stands out. Eventually someone will want to stand out, and the best way to do that is to have a roof height of at least ~1700 ft. Of course 1700 ft is still not megatall, but it's easy enough to add a spire to reach 1968.5 ft (600 m).

[Skyy]

Originally Posted by pianowizard

Agreed. The reason why many of us are "lost with all these new proposals" is that they are all roughly in the same height range, so none of them really stands out. Eventually someone will want to stand out, and the best way to do that is to have a roof height of at least ~1700 ft. Of course 1700 ft is still not megatall, but it's easy enough to add a spire to reach 1968.5 ft (600 m).

Yes, while it is amazing New York is getting a new ~1400ft plateau, it would be nice to have a focal point amongst it all

[patriotizzy]

Lol a "spoiler." Good grief.

[NYguy]

From that angle, 15 Penn doesn't look bad.

[chris08876]

Vornado’s Supertall 350 Park Avenue Gets Tentative 2027 Opening Date

Plans for 350 Park Avenue were revealed last year but we won’t see the supertall complete until 2027 at the earliest. In a 2019 fourth quarter earnings call last week for Vornado Realty Trust, the company confirmed that ongoing leases would conclude by end of 2023, which is the earliest it could begin to take down the current building and build the almost 1,500-foot-tall office skyscraper.

In order to build the supertall, construction would require the demolition of Vornado’s existing building on Park Avenue as well as the neighboring 23-story tower owned by Rudin Management. The site for 350 Park Avenue sits between 51st and 52nd Streets, near the 6 train at 51st Street subway station and the E and M trains at Lexington Avenue-53 Street station.

Given the location and market conditions, Vornado foresees 350 Park Avenue commanding top rents for the proposed Class A office building. However, the scale of the development will depend on the timing and joint venture agreements with Rudin.

“We can build on our own. We don’t need Rudin to build there,” said Michael J. Franco, president of Vornado during the earnings call. “We can build a 1-million-square-foot boutique building on that site on our own, or we can combine with Rudin who is behind this and build close to a 2-million-square-foot building.”

No announcements were made in regard to the architect or the design previously revealed in a brochure created by both Vornado and Rudin.

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NYY

[BXFrank]

It’s hard to believe prior to 2012 the tallest building in NYC was the Empire State Building. It stood out in every skyline pic. 6 years later is soon to be the 6th tallest. While I do miss NYC iconic signature skyline of the ESB, Twins/WTC, Brooklyn bridge and Lady liberty, we’re now in an exiting time where our skyline will probably never be complete, just surprising us as it evolves.

[chris08876]

^^^^

All built on demand too. Where other places build on massive speculation and ego, we build on demand. This city is making records, and its all demand based!

Makes it even more impressive as we aim for the top crown.