1040-1080 Barclay Street | 174.5m & 173m | 60Fl & 57Fl | Proposed

[officedweller]

I guess that elevator in the lower right corner is the bike elevator.
That cuts off half a floor from the regular elevators (that you probably can't take your bike into anyways)
But I was actually more concerned about the storage rooms if anyone has anything bulky or heavy in there.

[WarrenC12]

P10, that's insane. Is this subject to parking minimums or is this by choice from the developer?

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

P10, that's insane. Is this subject to parking minimums or is this by choice from the developer?

Total units - 1,100

Strata - 365 units, 425 stalls
Rental & Social - 735 units, 407 stalls

Childcare Space - 7 stalls
Retail - 1

*Not sure if these are the "physical" counted number of stalls. HC stalls count as 2

There are also 189 2-bed + units so they've likely anticipated a few 2 stalls per units and 3 stalls to some buyers.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Total units - 1,100

Strata - 365 units, 425 stalls
Rental & Social - 735 units, 407 stalls

Childcare Space - 7 stalls
Retail - 1

*Not sure if these are the "physical" counted number of stalls. HC stalls count as 2

There are also 189 2-bed + units so they've likely anticipated a few 2 stalls per units and 3 stalls to some buyers.

Seems like overkill for the strata. I wonder how much they'd really have to cut from both to eliminate about 3 floors of parking.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

P10, that's insane. Is this subject to parking minimums or is this by choice from the developer?

The strata units get almost double the required parking (425 vs 238 including visitor and accessible). The rental tower is all minimums so it’s not like reducing the strata stalls would reduced the total depth. If they’re digging that deep for the rental tower may as well go that deep for the strata tower.

The big inefficiency is building as two separate parking levels each with a ramp.

[Klazu]

P10 is ridiculous. One will curse that every single time one will drive up or down.

Also, having two side-by-side parking spaces is sooo convenient. I only have 1 car, but every unit I have lived in has come with two spaces. So convenient and expected from any premium units.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

P10, that's insane. Is this subject to parking minimums or is this by choice from the developer?

Why not? The people are paying the ridiculous prices for the strata units will have the resources for a vehicle or two.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Klazu

P10 is ridiculous. One will curse that every single time one will drive up or down.

Also, having two side-by-side parking spaces is sooo convenient. I only have 1 car, but every unit I have lived in has come with two spaces. So convenient.

There seems to be an inherent contradiction in your comment. If everybody had two spaces to park their car, there would have to be at least 20 storeys of parking. Alternatively, if owners didn't own a car at all, (but there was a car share pool in the building) they could provide far less parking.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Why not? The people are paying the ridiculous prices for the strata units will have the resources for a vehicle or two.

Who wants to drive 10 floors up and down every time they leave?

This is centrally located and lots of people will get by without a personally owned vehicle.

I wonder what the marginal cost of each spot is on P10.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I wonder what the marginal cost of each spot is on P10.

does it matter? the units will sell at a higher $/sqft with park vs with no parking.

few people want to buy a unit with 0 parking spaces. even people without a car today, generally want the ability to have a parking spot.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by Changing City

There seems to be an inherent contradiction in your comment. If everybody had two spaces to park their car, there would have to be at least 20 storeys of parking. Alternatively, if owners didn't own a car at all, (but there was a car share pool in the building) they could provide far less parking.

It seems far more sensible to have wider spaces than to give two spaces to each unit, if most residents will have only one car. Something like the wide buffers between stalls they have at Costco, rather than an entire extra space, would do the trick.

[Klazu]

More importantly than parking spaces, 90% of people would gladly trade wasteful bicycle storage space for more and bigger regular storage space. Especially now that crime is so rampant that many developments have bicycle rooms filled with separate cages. Everyone uses their storage space, but very few use bicycle storages.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

does it matter? the units will sell at a higher $/sqft with park vs with no parking.

few people want to buy a unit with 0 parking spaces. even people without a car today, generally want the ability to have a parking spot.

Of course it matters. The profit margin might not be there for P10 parking spots. The developer has obviously made that choice but I wouldn't want to buy one.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Klazu

More importantly than parking spaces, 90% of people would gladly trade wasteful bicycle storage space for more and bigger regular storage space. Especially now that crime is so rampant that many developments have bicycle rooms filled with separate cages. Everyone uses their storage space, but very few use bicycle storages.

What are you talking about? Bicycle lockers are jammed in most buildings.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by madog222

The big inefficiency is building as two separate parking levels each with a ramp.

Agreed.
My complex has 2 towers, each a separate strata corp., with each tower having it's own gated entrance to a common underground parkade (i.e. there would be easements governing sharing the space) and cooperation so that residents' of both stratas garage door openers work on both entrances.
That's really handy when one gate malfunctions.

[Zepfancouver]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

What are you talking about? Bicycle lockers are jammed in most buildings.

And half of the space in those bike lockers are wasted space filled with bicycles with flat tires and accumulating dust. (my observation from years of working on dozens of condo retrofitting jobs)

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Zepfancouver

And half of the space in those bike lockers are wasted space filled with bicycles with flat tires and accumulating dust. (my observation from years of working on dozens of condo retrofitting jobs)

Guilty!

[Feathered Friend]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://www.instagram.com/p/CsAQs5wR6uZ/

Moving these over here from the Downtown Thread.


Also, there were no public speaker's opposed to this project at last night's public hearing, and a handful were in support. However, the debate and decision on it was delayed to Thursday night due to the amount of speakers on the previous item.

[bb1510]

a lot of the market tower stalls look like they're "roughed in" for private garages. Bosa typically charges 100-120k to upgrade a single stall to a private garage and 200-220k when allocated two stalls to a double garage

Parking ranges from 90-120k depending on size usually

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by bb1510

a lot of the market tower stalls look like they're "roughed in" for private garages. Bosa typically charges 100-120k to upgrade a single stall to a private garage and 200-220k when allocated two stalls to a double garage

Are you talking about the same kind of "private garages" that Station Square 5 has for some of their upper units, where your parking spots are inside a cage and behind their very own gate? Seems crazy and highly impractical to me...

I couldn't find a photo right now, but have seen it on few ads.