1780 E Broadway | 144m, 125m, 122m | 44fl, 38fl, 37fl | Proposed

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by vanman

A new architectural trope is born.

It's not new.

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

It's not new.

I think he meant it's new for us here

[chrisel]

Originally Posted by vanman

A new architectural trope is born.

Concord Metrotown will have something similar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbGl...hannel=CONCORD

[vanman]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

I think he meant it's new for us here

Yes. Thank you.

[LeftCoaster]

A bit late to the party but the changes look good, and definitely supportive of the additional rental product. Sent in my note of support.

[Jimbo604]

Went to COV Urban Design Panel last Wednesday (Oct 28th):
Agenda

Address: 1780 E Broadway

Permit No.: RZ-2019-00040

Description: To develop the site with three residential towers, ranging in height from 26 to 31 storeys with retail at grade that includes a large format grocery store. Additionally, the proposal includes a childcare facility and a public plaza running parallel to the SkyTrain station. The proposal has a total of 236 strata units and 452 rental units. The total (FSR) floor area is approximately 59,297 sq. m (638,273 sq. ft.). This application is being considered under the Grandview-Woodland Community Plan.

Zoning: C-3A to CD-1

Application Status: Rezoning Application

Review: First

Architect: Perkins + Will Architects

[Feathered Friend]

Architectural Excellence Earns Urban Design Panel Support For Grandview Woodland’s Growing Community Heart
1780 E Broadway (Safeway Site)
This is arguably the most anticipated proposal in Vancouver this year, and in pre-COVID times, this Urban Design Panel meeting likely would have been filled to capacity. It has been nearly four years since we first saw the plans to transform the Safeway across from the Commercial-Broadway station, and the passions they evoked. I still remember the vocal opposition those five 12 – 24 floor buildings faced at that applicant-led event, but Darren recalls the bacon-wrapped chicken skewers much better.

Which is understandable, as though the initial density remains roughly the same, over the years there have been several updates which have cut back the amount of towers. This has preserved more sunlight and views through the greater community, but caused a growth spurt in the remaining structures. Granted, 24 – 30 floor buildings might seem insignificant when compared to the 60 – 80 floor towers that are planned at Burnaby’s Gilmore, Lougheed, and Metrotown stations, but this is Vancouver.

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2020/1...mmunity-heart/

[Jimbo604]

What up with this one? Passed Urban Design Panel in Oct/2020 but nothing since?

UDP Minutes

Here is your local nimby take on the project:




Ur favourite: nosafewaymegatowers.ca/

[jollyburger]

A few years ago you could see the mountains from the bike lane. But the trees on East 7th have grown so much they block the view.

And if anything the Skytrain station will just get shadowed

https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...adow-study.pdf

[Migrant_Coconut]

Yeah, anybody who says they can see the mountains from 10th is either fibbing or using a ladder. So naturally, it's time for the City to start removing trees. #NIMBYLogic

[Jimbo604]

https://twitter.com/nomegatowers

From above: I’m not sure what the diff between luxury condos and pricey suites is.

Also, housing crisis in Vancouver but as seen in this picture, low-density as far as eye can see around the busiest rapid transit station. What can ya do.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Jimbo604

From above: I’m not sure what the diff between luxury condos and pricey suites is.

Number of syllables?

At any rate, their purple prose isn't even honest - the proposal is 66% market or below-market rental.

[giallo]

Originally Posted by Jimbo604

https://twitter.com/nomegatowers

From above: I’m not sure what the diff between luxury condos and pricey suites is.

Also, housing crisis in Vancouver but as seen in this picture, low-density as far as eye can see around the busiest rapid transit station. What can ya do.

These people live next to the second busiest transit interchange in the province. They should feel blessed that they've been able to have it all to themselves for the past 20 years.

Their activism was cute when people weren't commuting 90 minutes to work each way, and Vancouver real estate wasn't laughably expensive. There should have been 1000s upon 1000s of more apartment units surrounding these two skytrain lines years ago.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by Jimbo604

What up with this one? Passed Urban Design Panel in Oct/2020 but nothing since?

UDP Minutes

So, now having affordable housing is not enough unless they are penthouses? Commercial Drive area is home to some of the most entitled people in Lower Mainland. All they do is demand and demand, but they are not willing to share their neighbourhood with more people. White trash activists.

[SpongeG]

they aren't even Mega.

It all boils down to the fact that they don't want their property values to drop, but they use the guise of there isn't enough affordable housing.

[Feathered Friend]

Originally Posted by Jimbo604

What up with this one? Passed Urban Design Panel in Oct/2020 but nothing since?

UDP Minutes

Here is your local nimby take on the project:

Now that in-person meetings have restarted, I may have heard some rumours that indicates the opposition has perhaps been somewhat successful, but nothing that I would feel comfortable sharing yet.

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

Now that in-person meetings have restarted, I may have heard some rumours that indicates the opposition has perhaps been somewhat successful, but nothing that I would feel comfortable sharing yet.

I really hope that isn’t true.

This is the busiest mass transit interchange in the entire city.

If a project of this scale is determined to be “too large or intrusive” due to the demand of NIMBYs, well then we know where the city really stands when it comes to being “green.”

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I really hope that isn’t true.

This is the busiest mass transit interchange in the entire city.

If a project of this scale is determined to be “too large or intrusive” due to the demand of NIMBYs, well then we know where the city really stands when it comes to being “green.”

The fact that it's a busy interchange between two transit lines seems a bit of a red herring. If there was a significantly underdeveloped site on a large scale here (like Oakridge mall, Brentwood Mall, Heather Lands, Jericho) then that's obviously an opportunity and a justification for a major intervention. One redeveloped supermarket and a few other nearby sites won't add many more people or jobs in the way those major projects will. Keeping this project to closer to the scale that was suggested in the local plan wouldn't be a huge disaster. The developer could probably have built something like their earlier project some time ago. Instead they've suggested slightly larger versions over several years. It's not surprising that they're getting pushback from a community where many residents were really unhappy with significant change.

[Migrant_Coconut]

They're free to offer up their own homes if they hate the towers so much? No? Oh well, more floors it is, then.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Changing City

The fact that it's a busy interchange between two transit lines seems a bit of a red herring. If there was a significantly underdeveloped site on a large scale here (like Oakridge mall, Brentwood Mall, Heather Lands, Jericho) then that's obviously an opportunity and a justification for a major intervention. One redeveloped supermarket and a few other nearby sites won't add many more people or jobs in the way those major projects will.

There's a ton of SFHs within a stone's throw of this major transit hub. That's "significantly underdeveloped" if I've ever heard it. The whole area should be the density of the Cambie area, with consolidation of blocks of SFHs.