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Time to update thread title to CTC?
Canadian Tire Centre (a.k.a. Scotiabank Place (a.k.a. Corel Centre (a.k.a. Palladium)))
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Re: Canadian Tire Centre, this was shared on Lost Ottawa.
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The Sens take on why attendance is down (but revenues up)
http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/11/13/...es-on-the-rise
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Re: Canadian Tire Centre, this was shared on Lost Ottawa.
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wow...just wow... the existing structure is horrid but this is just excruciatingly ugly.
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That thing was a very out-dated, bare bones kind of arena.
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I don't get Ottawa sometimes. Everyone here claims to love sports and want more teams/cheer hard as hell when the Sens are good; but when things are bad...hoooweee, we can't seem to get it up for anything. We blame poor attendance on a BAD SEASON. That's brutal from a sports fans' perspective.
What a silly comment. Yeah, Ottawa should be more like the sheep in Edmonton who keep paying big money to see a team run by a bonafide idiot. That's really working out for Oiler fans. Biggest joke of a franchise in the league and no real reason to fix the problems because the money keeps coming in.
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Shame they couldn't integrate an 19,000 seat arena in the landsdown development. Sounds farfetched, but it would make the whole Landsdown development self-sustainable all year-round?
Landsdowne would be an idiotic place to put an NHL arena. When the Senators played at the Civic Centre it was a bigger pain to access than CTC.

And if they integrated an NHL size rink there who would pay for it? Melnyk wouldn't. He already has an NHL rink and can't even afford to pay for the greatest player in team history, much less the hundreds of millions it would cost. And no one else is going to pay for it just to turn it over to Melnyk.
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Perhaps we should change the title to Canadian Tire Centre.
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That reminds me an awful lot of the Air Canada Centre.
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Sens eye seating shakeup at Canadian Tire Centre

David Sali, OBJ
Published on May 28, 2014


The team is studying several upgrades to its arena, including removing up to 16 suites and replacing them with “opera boxes” – mini-suites that feature all-inclusive pricing on food and drinks. The club is also looking at adding loge seats – a more spacious seating area that includes food service – on the 300 level.

“There seems to be a trend toward all-inclusive,” said Senators president Cyril Leeder. “It’s premium seating.”

The club plans to unveil the proposals in the fall to get fan feedback and make any changes for the 2015-16 season.

The opera or theatre box concept began at Chicago’s United Center a few years ago and has since spread to several other arenas around the United States. Customers typically pay an annual fee to sit in the boxes, which have a separate TV lounge and a private, curtained-off dining area where members can choose from a variety of dishes.

They are all-inclusive, meaning all food and drink costs, as well as parking passes, are included in the fee. Mr. Leeder said the club is still working out details, including the number of boxes and the price structure.

“We’ve had an architect working on it for some time now, but … there are a number of things we still have to sort through before we have something that we could roll out to our fan base,” he said. “We’ve got to get the right product and the right pricing that will work for our market.”

The club is considering other changes to the arena, he added, including “a fairly major investment” to make the upscale Dodge Club dining facility more accessible to the spectator seating area.

It is also planning to upgrade the arena’s beer and wine selection and is in discussions with a couple of local food vendors, including Fatboys Southern Smokehouse, to bring in “some pretty cool offerings,” Mr. Leeder said.

Surveys have shown that 60 per cent of spectators eat out either before or after attending games, he noted, so it’s important to make sure they are getting what they want.

“We’re trying to constantly improve the fan experience,” he said. “We know that the food is a big part of that.”

The Senators are also seeking the city’s approval to add at least two new exits in the surrounding parking lots and are exploring the possibility of making the road into the Canadian Tire Centre one-way before and after games to speed up the flow of traffic.

The club has also talked to the league about hosting an outdoor game in 2017 and bringing the NHL draft back to Ottawa within the next four years.

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A senior executive at the stadium behind the “theatre box” concept says it’s something more and more major sports arenas are considering as a way to generate new revenue.

“We knew that the times were changing,” said Greg Hanrahan, the senior director of premium seating at Chicago’s United Center, which pioneered about four years ago the idea of a smaller section of seats with all-inclusive food and drinks in a private dining and lounge area.

“Not everyone wanted to entertain with 20 people in a suite and eat suite catering food.”

Officials at the United Center, the home of the NHL’s Blackhawks and NBA’s Bulls, came up with the idea after seeing plans for field-level lounges at AT&T Stadium, the Dallas Cowboys’ home field. Since then, the concept has spread throughout the United States to arenas from New York to Phoenix.

The arena’s theatre box customers pay about US$112,000 a season for a five-year contract or $131,000 a season for a three-year membership, plus taxes and a security deposit. Most of the 36 boxes have four seats, and the fee – which gives members access to all Hawks and Bulls games – includes two parking passes in addition to all food and drinks.

The boxes were completely sold out this season and have a waiting list, Mr. Hanrahan said.

“The future of premium seating, I think, is going to all-inclusive,” he said. “I think that’s what the customers want.”

Prices at the United Center’s 167 private suites range from $50,000-$500,000 for a full season of Hawks and Bulls games to $25,000-$175,000 for partial season passes.


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Old Posted Sep 27, 2014, 3:42 PM
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Traffic changes may ease exit from Senators' parking lots

Peter Robb, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: September 27, 2014, Last Updated: September 27, 2014 11:30 AM EDT


It just might be easier and faster leaving the Canadian Tire Centre parking lot after NHL games this season after the Ottawa Senators, Vinci Park and the City of Ottawa have collaborated on “upgrades to the traffic flow.”

“We’ve worked hard with our partners Vinci Park to put in place a number of measures that will dramatically increase the speed of egress from the building following games,” said Senators president Cyril Leeder in a media release. “When these upgrades are completed over the next few months, our parking experience, and by extension the entire game experience, will be that much better.”

The major changes will be felt most on Huntmar Drive in both directions.

Northbound from the CTC, the release says, access to Highway 417 has recently opened via the north loop of the Palladium Drive interchange and Huntmar where a new traffic roundabout now has one lane open for cars with a second lane by the pre-season game on Oct. 3.

By the home opener on Oct. 16 traffic will operate with two lanes northbound along Huntmar Drive from Cyclone Taylor Boulevard across the Highway 417 overpass to Campeau Drive and around the new roundabout, the release says.

From the roundabout vehicles will have access to Highway 417 via the Palladium Drive interchange. It is expected that these changes will improve the traffic flow at the Cyclone Taylor-Huntmar intersection.

On Huntmar southbound from CTC, a new exit from Lot 4 will open in late October allowing cars to travel on Huntmar Drive without merging with southbound traffic. The new exit will have dedicated right- and left-turn lanes. Traffic will operate with two lanes southbound along Huntmar Drive from Lot 4 to Maple Grove Road. These changes should relieve pressure on the Palladium-Huntmar Drive intersection, the Senators say.

These changes will happen as the widening of Highway 417 between Eagleson Road and Highway 7 is finished in November. To see a map prepared by the Senators please click here: ottsens.com/YfB5f7

http://ottawacitizen.com/sports/hock...s-parking-lots
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2014, 3:44 PM
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News Release: Canadian Tire Centre, Ottawa Senators announce upgrades to post-game traffic flow
Changes to make significant improvement in egress times from Senators games

Thursday, 25.09.2014 / 9:54 PM / News
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OTTAWA – Canadian Tire Centre (@CdnTireCtr) and the Ottawa Senators (@Senators) announced today, that in partnership with the City of Ottawa, there will be a number of upgrades to the traffic flow following Ottawa Senators games this season. These upgrades, which include traffic flow changes both northbound and southbound on Huntmar Drive, are expected to make a significant improvement in the time it takes for patrons attending Senators games in the time it takes to exit the venue.

“We’ve worked hard with our partners Vinci Park to put in place a number of measures that will dramatically increase the speed of egress from the building following games,” said Senators president Cyril Leeder. “When these upgrades are completed over the next few months, our parking experience, and by extension the entire game experience, will be that much better.”

Huntmar Drive northbound from Canadian Tire Centre

Access to Highway 417 via the north loop of the Palladium Drive interchange and Huntmar Drive overpass opened on Tuesday, Sept. 23, with a new traffic roundabout having one lane open for cars. The roundabout is expected to be open to two lanes for the Senators second pre-season game on Friday, Oct. 3.

Effective for the Senators home opener on Thursday, Oct. 16, the following traffic improvements will be implemented post-game:

- Traffic will operate with two lanes northbound along Huntmar Drive from Cyclone Taylor Blvd. across the Highway 417 overpass to Campeau Drive and around the newly constructed roundabout.

- From the roundabout vehicles will have access to Highway 417 via the Palladium Drive interchange.

- These changes will improve the traffic flow at the Cyclone Taylor Blvd. / Huntmar Drive intersection.

Huntmar Drive southbound from Canadian Tire Centre

To improve exit times for southbound fans, a new exit is being constructed from Lot 4 of Canadian Tire Centre that will allow patrons to exit Lot 4 and proceed southbound on Huntmar Drive without merging with on-coming southbound traffic. The new exit will have dedicated right- and left-turn lanes.

This new exit from Lot 4 will be operational in late October and the following traffic improvements will be implemented post-game:

- Traffic will operate with two lanes southbound along Huntmar Drive from Lot 4 to Maple Grove Rd.

- This change will improve the traffic flow from Lot 4 as well as relieve pressure from the Palladium Drive / Huntmar Drive intersection.

For a graphical representation of the upgrades to the traffic flow, please click here: ottsens.com/YfB5f7

Highway 417 widening nearing completion

In addition to the measures aimed to help egress from Senators games, the widening of Highway 417 between Eagleson Rd. and Highway 7 is nearing completion, with expected completion to come at some point in November of this year. These changes will positively impact both timing of arrival and departure of guests to Canadian Tire Centre.

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News Release: Senators announce partnership with Legends Global Sales as part of arena transformation
http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=733536

Senators, Legends recruiting sales executives to help drive new fan experiences
Wednesday, 08.10.2014 / 9:45 AM / News
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OTTAWA - The Ottawa Senators (@Senators) announced today a partnership with Legends Global Sales to oversee the sales execution of the premium seating experience transformation that will be coming to Canadian Tire Centre for the 2015-16 season.

“Legends is a global leader in the development of premium seating experiences, as witnessed by the partnerships with some of the most dynamic sports brands in North America, including teams in the NHL, NFL, MLB and the NBA,” said Senators senior vice-president of corporate sales Mark Bonneau. “Their recent work with the new state-of-the-art Levi’s Stadium, home of the San Francisco 49ers, really showcased to us the type of positive impact these premium seating experiences can have on a fan base and an arena. We feel strongly that this partnership and program transformation will redefine the NHL hockey experience at Canadian Tire Centre.”

Legends and the Ottawa Senators are currently recruiting a number of sales executives to drive the sales and service of these soon-to-be-announced premium seating properties. Persons interested in applying to be part of the team and this new initiative are asked to visit the Senators website at: http://senators.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=49225.

As part of #SensVision25 (an organizational plan leading up to the teams’ 25th anniversary), there are a number of anticipated upgrades to the arena and fan experience. The specifics of these developments are expected to be announced publicly in early November, with the physical transformation taking place in the summer of 2015.

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Legends (www.legends.net) has created a legacy of success, delivery and results with the icons of global sports, entertainment and business. Their passion for delivering remarkable experiences, at every occasion, has enabled them to redefine the role of a solutions provider and set a new expectation within the industry.

Legends is an industry leading sports entertainment company with multiple best-in-class disciplines including: Legends Global Planning, which provides project feasibility, project development and analytics; Legends Global Sales, which offers team owners, facility operators and athletic departments premium and individual ticket sales and service, PSL sales execution, sponsorship and naming rights capabilities, stadium/arena tours, special event sales and sales training; and Legends Hospitality, the premier provider of general concessions, premium food and beverage, catering and retail merchandise.
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Senators hope to entice corporate fans with new type of suite

Robert Bostelaar, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: November 5, 2014, Last Updated: November 5, 2014 5:44 PM EST




For 2015, the Ottawa Senators are thinking outside the box.

Not necessarily in terms of penalties — though the coaching staff would no doubt welcome that — but certainly in terms of the square enclosures known as private suites and aimed at the most well-heeled fans at the club’s Canadian Tire Centre home.

By next season, walls will have come down within a swath of first-tier suites to create a less-structured Club Bell — named for a major sponsor — with a range of posh seating options and, courtesy of a members-only restaurant, some posh eating options, too.

The changes, designed by the Detroit-based Rossetti firm of architects that drew up the original plans for the building alongside Highway 417 in Kanata, are part of a broader project to improve the experience for fans as the club approaches its 25th year of play in 2017.

“When we opened the building 18 years ago we really had regular seating, (lower bowl) club seating and suites,” Senators president Cyril Leeder told patrons in a presentation in June. “Now we’re talking about something between a club seat and a suite.”



This week, the club is opening a display model for the 14 Victory suites that will be the most formal option in the redesign. Still, these suites, equipped with six, eight or 10 lounge chairs, will have glass in place of the concrete walls of existing boxes, and dining areas that open to a restaurant-lounge with further seating arrangements and open cooking stations.

A second option will be Loge seats with more footroom and tables that incorporate screens to show replays of the action on the ice. Third will be Lux seats that will be wider and cushier than standard arena seats. Patrons in both these areas will have access to the restaurant.

With some 500 seats in total, the renovations could trim the arena’s current capacity of 19,153 (before standing room) by about 100.

However, “We’re not doing it to reduce capacity,” said Geoff Publow, the team’s vice-president of strategic development. “We’re doing it to offer an upgraded premium experience, and let us really redefine that experience with product that hasn’t been available traditionally in this building or in our market.”

Pricing has yet to be released for the Club Bell seats. Rates start at $1,500 a night for the 142 current suites, arrayed in three tiers and accommodating from 12 to 150 fans.

Many venues across North America are finding traditional suites a tougher sell as corporate clients trim their entertainment budgets. Further souring sales in Ottawa are tougher rules against public servants accepting free tickets from companies hoping to do business with the government.

The Senators hope the new area, with more opportunity for the business community to mingle and dine in an exclusive venue, can help to reverse the trend. Revisions for other suites are expected to be announced in coming months.

Improved lighting and television feeds within the building and new routing to ease the traffic flow outside are other parts of the Sens Vision 25 strategy. And the team hopes to win National Hockey League approval to restage the NHL’s first game, an outdoor match between the original Senators and the Montreal Canadiens in 1917.

Leeder said the game would be a unique opportunity to mark three important anniversaries.

“What a spectacle that would be to have it here in the nation’s capital as part of our 25th, as part of the NHL’s 100th and Canada’s 150th,” he said.

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Now that a new Downtown Arena is a serious possibility, we can look back at the original vision for the Palladium from 1989 to 1991, when the NDP killed any chance that the Kanata site might not be a complete bust.

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Everybody knows the one thing that's always said about the Canadian Tire Centre: it's in the middle of nowhere. I live in Kanata and even I can't argue with that. It's positioned beside the 417, surrounded by farmland, an auto park and the "largest parking lot in Eastern Ontario." That's about it. However, Kanata itself has vastly developed since the arena was built; if you take a five minute drive away from the CTC you are right back in an urban environment. Unfortunately, the development has severely been lacking in nightlife entertainment, the result being nobody wanting to stay in Kanata after attending a game.

Imagine if there was just a bit of entertainment withing walking distance of the CTC (casino anybody?). It would change the whole perception of the arena. Wouldn't it be nice to have restaurants, shops or nightclubs to visit after a game? It would surely help with the congestion resulting from a capacity crowd of 20,500 leaving at the exact same time.

Interestingly enough, this almost came to be with the original plan for the CTC. The proposal for the Ottawa Palladium was incredibly ambitious and I've managed to locate documents chronicling what could have been been.

Below is an article from July 1990 that summarizes the original plan for the Ottawa Palladium:


Looking at all those bullet points, almost none of them apply to what we have now. A hotel attached to the arena with suites that overlooked the rink! Underground parking! 100,000 square feet of street level retail and office space! And most important of all, shops, banks, restaurants and night clubs! Just picture that, there would be a reason to stay in the area following a game. However, easily the most shocking revelation in the original plan was the capacity of the arena at 22,500. This would have made it the largest arena in the NHL, ahead of the Bell Centre at 21,273.

Ironically, it was a Detroit based company that aided in the original design which can be seen below:


Notice how it looks absolutely nothing like what we have now. I'm not quite sure how they went from that to deciding to make the arena in the shape of a circle. The project got nicknamed "The Field of Dreams", because Ottawa is so good at naming things.

Fast forward to November 1991, where the Sens would release another article updating the progress on the world class Ottawa Palladium.


Overall, the plan seemed to remain the same, except for the number of suites being reduced to 100 from 200 (for what reason, I have no idea). In addition, they also revealed an artist concept of the inside of the arena which is surprisingly accurate to what we actually have now. They also provided a picture of their luxury suites which look incredible with their giant sofas (which sadly do not exist in real life).

The question is: what went wrong? It came partially down to money; ownership required loans as they lacked the cash to fund the entire construction themselves. However, the root cause comes down to the NDP beating the Liberals in a provincial election. The Liberals had originally agreed to the rezoning required to allow the construction of such a large project as well as providing money to fund the construction of the new interchange. However, the loss to the NDP put a dent in that as they wanted to preserve the ever valuable farm land for the future. The end result was a large reduction on the original plans, including reducing the arena capacity from 22,500 to 18,500 and not building the surrounding entertainment. For full details on what went wrong and why the parking is terrible, check out this great article by Ottawa Senators' founder Bruce Firestone.

From an article from September 1992, it is amazing how quickly things changed.

So there you have it, that is why we have only the arena today and a lack of anything else. I will leave you with these two pictures which will surely make you think of what could have been.

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http://www.bonksmullet.com/2013/08/s...palladium.html

And the original plans for "West Terrace";


http://stittsvillecentral.ca/sens-mo...-says-planner/
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While the original plan definitely captures the 80s zeitgeist for grandiose multipurpose everything (see Skydome) I'm not sure whether the elements ever would have been built (from what I understand there was little construction of hotels, offices, condos, etc. between the early 90s and early 2000s).

But even if the Firestones did find developers, I'm not sure such a multipurose arena would be much of an improvement. Even with a few hundred hotel guests (maybe) and a few thousand residents in neighbourhood, the arena would still be 25km from the city centre (and further for much of the population of the city) with no access to mass transit. The model the Firestones were using (Pistons arena in suburban Detroit) was (I think) the only suburban arena built anywhere in North America in the last 30 years - nobody but Bruce Firestone thought that was a good model to emulate (certainly none of the other owners building arenas in the 90s). And even in Detroit, all of the major sports facilities built since have all been downtown (football, baseball and the new Joe for hockey).

Frankly, there is little stopping more recent senators owners from pursing elements of that design, that type of mixed development is now very much in vogue, but the only interest from developers in that part of Kanata is very sprawl-like (big box stores, auto dealers, outlet malls, low density housing).
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I'm actually quite glad that development did not pan out.

The 1990s were an era of significant suburbanization in Ottawa, as the downtown-based federal government downsized and the suburban (mostly Kanata) based IT sector expanded. In that era transit ridership fell, sprawl got way worse, and the city started to decentralized away from downtown with all the new things like Sens arena & the first/only high-luxury hotel both going to Kanata. It would have been way worse if this West Terrace had gone through.

My biggest fear for Ottawa's future is that as the feds downsize & stay level while IT grows we'll see once again Kanata stealing the main city's thunder. Thankfully there's increased urban IT in Ottawa lately (Shopify, the new Innovation Centre U/C, etc.) but it still worries me.
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