The future of Hamilton's public transit - Page 6

the dude · #**101** Posted **Nov 27, 2007, 10:05 PM**

welcome to the hammer. i'd prefer they just embezzle it the old fashioned way rather than pretending to create an amazing public transit system. i still can't get over that figure: $160,000,000! don't spend it on buses you jackasses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! will somebody in this city with half a brain please stand up and be counted? 'cause i can't see anyone.

raisethehammer · #**102** Posted **Nov 27, 2007, 11:06 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by the dude

welcome to the hammer. i'd prefer they just embezzle it the old fashioned way rather than pretending to create an amazing public transit system. i still can't get over that figure: $160,000,000! don't spend it on buses you jackasses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! will somebody in this city with half a brain please stand up and be counted? 'cause i can't see anyone.

yup...so frustrating.

raisethehammer · #**103** Posted **Nov 28, 2007, 9:55 PM**

URGENT message about the HSR:

http://raisethehammer.org/blog.asp?id=861

SteelTown · #**104** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 12:20 AM**

Just started watching the council meeting on Cable 14, think I missed the vote. It's strange to watch council meeting outside of City Hall.

SteelTown · #**105** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 2:12 AM**

Christ it's been like 3 hrs already and there still debating the one garbage limit. Holy

SteelTown · #**106** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 3:50 AM**

Rates are going up, council passed the transit hike.

raisethehammer · #**107** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 4:03 AM**

yea, just saw that.
I still resent the fact that margaret mccarthy is allowed to vote on this issue, let alone open her big yapper.
shut up and go enjoy your 100% tax payer subsidized highway ramp to your big box heaven.

Amazing...Hamilton has lowered it's funding to the HSR by 20% since 1994. No wonder this is such a backwards hicktown.
Red Hill is gobbling up all the money (along with all other sprawl). We were supposed to become boomtown Canada with Red Hill opening.
Instead we are projecting a zero% growth rate in the city's economy next year. Of course, Mr Desantis doesn't care...Red Hill was built for him and his buddies....not Hamilton's growth rate.

Such a screwed up city.

beanmedic · #**108** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 4:11 AM**

I liked watching Bratina throw his papers.

SteelTown · #**109** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 4:13 AM**

Well it's 20% drop in HSR levy tax, meaning you, I and Hamiltonians that get HSR coverage pays for HSR, area rating. Expect since 1994 increase funding for HSR has come from transit fares. Something that's should happen the opposite.

Just so you know McCarthy has a right to talk about HSR as now HSR will serve Waterdown with the latest approved transit enhancements.

SteelTown · #**110** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 4:14 AM**

I get the feeling that Bratina and Mayor Fred don't get along well lol. Sometimes I felt Fred has being too snappy at Bratina.

raisethehammer · #**111** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 11:40 AM**

and why the heck does Tom Jackson yell all the time? Seriously (I'm not joking here) is he going deaf or hard of hearing? it's painfully obvious that he yells all his questions and thank-you's etc.... seems kind of embarassing.

DC83 · #**112** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 12:34 PM**

Council passes 15 cent transit fare increase

November 29, 2007
The Hamilton Spectator
(Nov 29, 2007)

City council has confirmed a transit fare hike.

A last minute public campaign asking councillors to delay their decision failed last night.

In a nine-six vote, councillors agreed to raise fares 15 cents to $2.40 for a cash fare or $1.85 for a ticket.

Adult monthly passes will increase $8 as of January 1.

Councillor Bob Bratina introduced a motion asking the city to explore lowering fares to $2 as a pilot project but withdrew his idea in frustration when other councillors questioned its feasibility and generally poked fun at his idea.

Councillor Sam Merulla plans to bring a similar motion to the next council meeting where he will ask staff to explore free transit-- a transit system fully subsidized by taxpayers. Currently bus fares are subsidized about 50 per cent.

Councillor Terry Whitehead argued Hamilton taxpayers are already over burdened and can't handle any more subsidies for transit.

DC83 · #**113** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 12:37 PM**

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Councillor Bob Bratina introduced a motion asking the city to explore lowering fares to $2 as a pilot project but withdrew his idea in frustration when other councillors questioned its feasibility and generally poked fun at his idea.

If I were Bratina, I'd throw a lot more pens/papers!!
I don't condone his childlike behaviour, however I COMPLETELY understand why it happens.
Bob seems to be the ONLY councilor w/ half a brain!
Come 2010 (if he hasn't already given up out of frustration), I pray that he would take on Brad Clark for Mayor.

raisethehammer · #**114** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 12:53 PM**

I can't imagine working on a pea-brained council like that. I'd be tossing desks and tables...lol.

you watch those meetings and it's so painful sometimes. Ferguson and McCarthy have no business being on city council. They are completely clueless, and seem to actually revel in the fact that they have absolutely no desire to ever figure out the basics. Almost like they're saying "ha, I made council as a clueless moron and a clueless moron I'll stay! What does HSR stand for again??"

SteelTown · #**115** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 1:44 PM**

Here's what is really screwed up, council debated for nearly 3 hrs on the one garbage bag limit and still everyone got confused, they couldn't even vote on the right motion........

Council settles garbage issue
Nov, 29 2007 - 7:20 AM

HAMILTON (AM900 CHML) - The exact timelines are a little bit hazy, but there will be tighter restrictions on how much garbage can be placed curbside by Hamilton residents.

The confusion is the result of a misprint, within a proposal that has been approved by city politicians.

It has resulted in Council approving a strict one-container garbage limit as of April 2010, even as many members including the Mayor thought they were approving the new limit as of April 2009.

Prior to the one-container limit taking effect, the city will move to a two-container limit (one of them a clear garbage bag).

That will happen either this coming April, or in the spring of 2009. Until then, the current three-bag limit remains in effect.

raisethehammer · #**116** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 1:59 PM**

what a well-oiled machine...

matt602 · #**117** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 7:09 PM**

So what's this improved service that we're paying the extra amount for, again?

DC83 · #**118** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 7:30 PM**

The Keith Neighbourhood Route & the Waterdown Route.

Oh... and "happier" bus drivers!? hahaah

SteelTown · #**119** Posted **Nov 29, 2007, 7:38 PM**

And a Rymal route as well.

My Grandpa retires today, so check out for the Upper Wentworth or Upper Wellington (it switches) bus around 5 to 7pm as a party bus haha.

DC83 · #**120** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 12:26 PM**

Oh Man! I'll have to go to Limeridge for some shopping then!!
Thanks for the excuse, Steeltown!!

hahaha