Salt Lake:Official development news thread - Page 6

i-215 · #**101** Posted **Oct 5, 2006, 4:45 PM**

The problem comes down to First Security isn't earthquake safe. If it got a big enough jolt, it would fall into the street. To fix that, they have to tear the exterior off and it will probably be cracked up and broken at that point, and without the exterior, what is there worth saving?

It's a shame, but it's not the first old building to be lost in the name of earthquake safety.

blm3034L!fe · #**102** Posted **Oct 5, 2006, 5:18 PM**

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I guess as a native of Paris, former resident of Rome, New York and recently living in L.A. for ten years, I don't understand major urban development when I see it. You're right, this 2 billion and growing project is just another mall redo.

And ofcourse, every city including Topeka has an intrinsic beauty. Some, such as Seattle have maybe a little more than others. The POINT was that no major metro area in North America is located as CLOSELY to a mountain chain, which rises so abruptly from the valley floors. This causes alot of dramatic residential lots with one of a kind views, yet only minutes from downtown. Remember, I've been to all of these other cities. I consider myself a part-time resident of the West Coast and Europe. Post a website locale of some pictures of North American Metro's we can view to prove me wrong.

Hey delts145 you might want to go a little easier on northernlad, I think he and I just misunderstood your first post, which I'm sure was due to your excitement over SLC's new Mall Plans. Totally understandable.

And I never disagreed with you about Utah having amazing mountain back drops but you are right, they are kinda RIGHT THERE and in your face in Utah along the Wasatch Front Range. Anywho I figured to be fair, and would post you some of what I find to be beautiful mountains next to cities as well. I like Utah's Wasatch mountain range, but I prefer Colorado over Utah any day my friend. In Utah along the Wasatch front I feel claustrophobic everything is way to compact and enclosed on all sides by either mountains or some lakes.

Now IF along the west side of the wasatch front. if those mountains looked as good as the eastern wasatch front range then hands down I'd give you Utah boys the Crown. But that's not the case and although it's beautiful it's not my cup of tea...

And once again not trying to take anything away from this Sweet ass major development for SLC which Rocks!!! I'm happy for you guys...

But I believe you had asked for some pics? delts145 and so you shall recieve, I know the mountains here do not shoot straight up from your front door step but make no mistake they are just as mystifying and dramatically beautiful here is a little note to back me up on that.

At the summit of Pikes Peak, Katharine Lee Bates was inspired to pen the lines to her most famous poem, "America the Beautiful." She was overwhelmed by the sights of vast, open skies, planted fields, and the majestic Rocky Mountains.

Pikes Peak in the Springs standing at 14,110 feet.

Then looking down at Colorado Springs from Pike's Peak.

Looking up from Garden of the Gods.

Okay how about some FlatIrons BOULDER

And the BEST for last my Utah buddy's, D-E-N-V-E-R!!!

Now this one is Breathtaking! Period...

And does Utah have anything like this? or as famous??? in it's foothills??? NO!!!

Okay I "NOW" understand what you meant to originally say about Utah's mountains delts145 but like I had posted before be carefull because there are other States and cities that are next to mountains too. And we think the world of our mountains as well... I honestly believe that the four corner states are some of the most beautiful in the USA, the mountain west is the best...

Okay I hope this matter is closed now! I feel intrusive and I apologize sincerely, Back to the HUGE sweet SLC mall development amigos... Once again sorry fellow Utah forumers, please do not stone me...

Ross · #**103** Posted **Oct 5, 2006, 5:56 PM**

Tall thats for sure but really ugly i mean the "cash register" And the tallest is as ugly as the LDS building.

Wasatch_One · #**104** Posted **Oct 5, 2006, 8:45 PM**

The Front Range is pretty weak and rolling to really be considered "Rocky Mountains" IMO

I like the San Juans and Sangre de Cristo's but the ones between Co Springs and Cheyenne are just not as photogenic...

These are mountains my friend,

thats 8000' vertical feet STRAIGHT UP from the valley floor, no foothills! Nothing along the Front Range can even compare to that.

GeorgeLV · #**105** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 2:30 AM**

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True, there are some big projects going on in our region, but there is only one that compares in scope the the LDS church project just announced which is the City Center project in Vegas...

You're reaching...a lot. City Center in Las Vegas is a $7 Billion 66-acre project developing 16,797,000 sq ft of space in seven 50-60 story towers. The WTC redevelopment is really the only other project in the US that is comprable to that.

City Creek Center is a great mixed-used project, but in terms of square footage developed or cost, it's more towards the middle of the pack of the current wave of development. Remember, other cities in the region came much earlier to the real estate boom while financing was much more favorable.

Schmoe · #**106** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 3:46 AM**

I'm going to be moving to SLC in December from Sacramento. A lot of really cool stuff is happening in Sac, so I'm sorry to be leaving. But it's nice to see that I'll be coming to a place with some good projects in the works.

I think you're all a little too negative about a very ambitious urban infill project. The downtown core is vital to a city's health. This highly walkable urban neighborhood will be very vibrant. I am really stoked to see it happening.

Viperlord · #**107** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 3:52 AM**

We'll be glad to welcome you to SLC Schmoe! We hope that there will be more development that will follow this development.

delts145 · #**108** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 4:39 AM**

Sacramento is a beautiful city,which has really taken the bull by the horns when it comes to urban renewal. It is also the capital of one of my favorite state's. I'm sure the Wasatch Front will benefit greatly from the experience you bring with you.

blm3034L!fe · #**109** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 4:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by Wasatch_One

The Front Range is pretty weak and rolling to really be considered "Rocky Mountains" IMO

^Okaay, So at the foothills or base Utah for the most part probably has us beat, but once your in the mountains? no question we have Utah beat...

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Originally Posted by Wasatch_One

I like the San Juans and Sangre de Cristo's but the ones between Co Springs and Cheyenne are just not as photogenic...

I agree somewhat with you on the San Juans, but if you head west into the mountains from Denver toward the Resorts, or in your case east on I-70, trust me BREATHTAKING! to say the least. Take that drive sometime if you ever come out here and visit, I would put that against ANY Canyon Drive in Utah ANY DAY. No comparison... Oh just make sure your vehicle can handle the "little hills"

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Originally Posted by Wasatch_One

These are mountains my friend,

^Yawn...

Hello! I am fully aware of the fact that Utah's mountains seem to go straight up, and hey that's cool they are great, but I don't like how "compact" and "inclosed" Utah's Wasatch Front is. To each thier own, I am in NO WAY implying that Utah's or Colorado's mountains are better or worse then eachothers! all I was simply saying originally is that there are other cities next to mountains that are just as impressive... What the heck is the deal???

This CITY MOUNTAIN backdrop is 10X's more impressive IMO...

But the pics of those "other peaks" that Wasatch has posted of the Utah's Towering Peaks blow away almost anything I could think of here in Colorado as far as "being next to a city" point of view. Excluding the one with SLC in the background, we all know that little "hill" wrapping around the North Back side of SLC is WEAK! just like you claim Denver's are. So thier you have it... Both places and Cities are very nice and the Mountains compliment both Denver and Salt Lake City very well. Why else would everyone want to live in these places? Were all very fortunate indeed...

In all honesty and fairness Utah's mountain backdrop for SLC, they are right there! and they appear to be higher in "some" places than in Denver. But that might be hard to judge due to that fact that downtown SLC sits on the foothills. Denver? is 16 miles East of our "foothills". Big difference, and one I appreciate... I prefer the latter. But hey I have to admit Utah looks pretty damn good too. It's not that bad really, it just isnt for me... I like the southern parts of Utah and all of the Ntl Pks, or as i like to say your natural playgrounds are pretty cool.

Are we on the same level? or am I just banging my head against a wall here??? Good GOD enough said! this subject is DEAD...

Wasatch_One · #**110** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 6:28 AM**

...agree, to disagree

delts145 · #**111** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 11:41 AM**

I was thinking of putting a thread out on Daybreak. I mean, after all it's the world's biggest planned community on the book's, and is actually building at a roadrunner's pace . Should we do a new thread, or include it in this thread of Salt Lake?

delts145 · #**112** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 12:54 PM**

Are you kidding? Wasatch One put up some great photo's that already have you beat. And those don't even come close to the vista's of metro towns like Alpine,Suncrest or Draper/Sandy.
Comparing the photgenic qualities of the Front Range west of metro Denver to the Wasatch on metro Salt Lake's doorstep, is like saying the beaches next to Santa Monica, are as beautiful as the beaches at the doorstep of Honolulu.

P.S. The Maroon Bell's are among my favorite Vista's. But, The Wasatch is as much a part of Metro Salt Lake, as Central Park is to Uptown Manhattan. That was and still is THE POINT. That kind of proximity does not exist in Denver,Calgary,Seattle,Las Vegas,Los Angeles or Portland. EVEN THOUGH ALL have some of the world's most beautiful mountain chains within a respectable drive.

delts145 · #**113** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 1:07 PM**

If I could only choose among five areas to live in for the rest of my life, Metro Denver would certainly be one of them. Man, you can tell I'm a native Parisian. We're too passionate, and love to argue about everything. Even though I grew up here in the States, I just can't seem to get that damn Frenchy out of me.

Delts

Again P.S. If Colorado were a woman she would be Angelina Jolie,(I would throw her down and marry her,"although I'm not sure in what order.") To Hell with that skinny wimp, Brad Pitt!!

BuiLDing GuRL · #**114** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 3:42 PM**

Seeing all of the pictures of the mountains reminds me of when I first moved to UT I had to write a poem about UT for a class. All that I wrote was how much I hate the mountains and how they are just big piles of dirt and rock. I think I even said something about wanting to blast the mountains down or bulldoze them away. Maybe I was a little overdramatic. I miss the plains. I know people get used to the mountains once you're here but I seriously miss driving down the (dirt) road and being able to see for miles and miles in all directions. We could see downtown from where we were even though we lived way out.

It's nice to hear people that really love where they live. I haven't had a chance to do anything in the mountains except drive to Park City. Hopefully I can take a trip and experience the mountains and be as in love with them as ya'll are.

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Joe Gardner · #**115** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 5:29 PM**

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It's nice to hear people that really love where they live. I haven't had a chance to do anything in the mountains except drive to Park City. Hopefully I can take a trip and experience the mountains and be as in love with them as ya'll are.

OMG!

Go drive up to the top of big cottonwood canyon and walk around solitude lake. Or go to one of the lower trails up millcreek and go see the colors change.

The only thing that keeps me in SLC is the mountains. Theres a few citys that I enjoy more then SLC, but the more I travel, the more I *love* SLC and the access to the outdoors.

SmilingBob · #**116** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 6:41 PM**

[QUOTE=Wasatch_One]The Front Range is pretty weak and rolling to really be considered "Rocky Mountains" IMO

thats 8000' vertical feet STRAIGHT UP from the valley floor, no foothills! Nothing along the Front Range can even compare to that.

Yes the front range is more of a rolling mountain, but the Wasatch mountain overpower the city. In most pictures you miss the city for mountains. Great if you're a "mountain man", but not if you're a "country boy".

Great. How do you get to the top of mountains that go straight up? Having not grown up along the wasatch front, I prefer my mountains to not be on my front porch.

Close enough to see and enjoy, but far enough away to not overwhelm me. IMHO.

Utaaah! · #**117** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 8:33 PM**

Welcome, Ross and Bob! It appears this mountian banter has lured some more lurkers into full forum membership. Please stay and contribute. I just have to say, as far a mountians are concerned, Salt Lake and Denver have Dallas beat my a mile... or two... straight up. I saw a nearly 200' hill around here once.

Schmoe · #**118** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 9:29 PM**

All that bickering might scare one new forumer away...namely me! That's not what I get on here to read. And it has little to nothing to do with skyscrapers or urban development.

Viperlord · #**119** Posted **Oct 6, 2006, 10:19 PM**

so, back to development news....The ground for the angelina's corner development is cleared, and ready for sitework.

leebuddy · #**120** Posted **Oct 7, 2006, 3:08 AM**

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so, back to development news....The ground for the angelina's corner development is cleared, and ready for sitework.

yes let's get back to the development news.LOL I still need to go check out this anglelina coner project. i don't even know much about it.