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Old Posted Aug 12, 2010, 12:37 AM
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I know this forum is called SkyscrapersPage, but honestly, I don't really understand the hype about building taller. I've heard things about skylines and civic pride, but even that seems a bit weird to me.

I guess I'm wondering what a great skyline does for you? Or why some people think its important to have skyscrapers? My design aesthetic and preference tends to run to mid-rise, and more on a human scale; but I'm curious.
I think people use the word skyscrapers to much. I think a number of highrises would be nice in the inner city. I don't think the city needs a supertall. Ever. I don't even think it needs 20 tall highrises. I would like a good number of highrises with height in the middle, but mostly I would like good medium sized developments. That's what matters more to me because tall towers look pretty, but the ground level is where the action happens. Human scale looks more inviting by the way. Hundreds of 600 footers look like hell to me. Problem is San Antonio isn't in a ton of abundance of either right now. They're all proposed, on hold, or dead.
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I think people use the word skyscrapers to much. I think a number of highrises would be nice in the inner city. I don't think the city needs a supertall. Ever. I don't even think it needs 20 tall highrises. I would like a good number of highrises with height in the middle, but mostly I would like good medium sized developments. That's what matters more to me because tall towers look pretty, but the ground level is where the action happens. Human scale looks more inviting by the way. Hundreds of 600 footers look like hell to me. Problem is San Antonio isn't in a ton of abundance of either right now. They're all proposed, on hold, or dead.
That sounds like Fort Worth..... minus the "proposed" and "on hold" part.

Besides, no one is saying there should definately be 600 footers and super talls all over San Antonio. This is just a thread of 'what ifs'. Nothing wrong with that, right?
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That sounds like Fort Worth..... minus the "proposed" and "on hold" part.

Besides, no one is saying there should definately be 600 footers and super talls all over San Antonio. This is just a thread of 'what ifs'. Nothing wrong with that, right?
No there's nothing wrong with this thread. I like all the ideas. I'm not talking about adding a few skyscrapers in the city, I'm talking about making the city look like Sao Paulo or something. Doesn't look very pretty. I was responding to arhavel's question about the skyline and importance.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2010, 3:06 AM
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Thanks I love this and it's my new wallpaper.

Never say never. Look at Austin, they weren't expecting such a transformation. I know some of you think not, but I think we are going to be a bit shocked in the near future.
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The skyline kinda looks Saudi Arabian.
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I went to Chicago last weekend, what an awesome city, the skyline is breathtaking. It's time for S.A. to build a few decent high rises.
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I think if 1221 Broadway, Cevallos Street and other mid-sized developments in or close to central downtown really get underway and have a good impact, we can expect to see some nice new buildings. Not sure if I'm expecting a lot though, but there's a good chance.
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Haha I just saw this...nice use of all our buildings!!!
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Thanks I love this and it's my new wallpaper.

Never say never. Look at Austin, they weren't expecting such a transformation. I know some of you think not, but I think we are going to be a bit shocked in the near future.
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2010, 2:17 AM
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Was thinking...

If they legalized gambling in Texas, we could see something like these:








Or this....



Whichever one you prefer. Not even sure if the city would designate an area downtown for gambling though.
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I think a number of highrises would be nice in the inner city. I would like a good number of highrises with height in the middle, but mostly I would like good medium sized developments. That's what matters more to me because tall towers look pretty, but the ground level is where the action happens. Human scale looks more inviting by the way.
I agree 100%.
In the 20s, when the city was centralized, there was a demand for tall structures, and those structures just got taller and taller. From the South Texas Building to the Milam Building to the Tower Life Building. Of course when the depression reared its ugly head, we saw some planned structures get cancelled.
I remember reading a front page article of a 1920s San Antonio Light when I was a kid, and it had a large rendering of a planned or proposed 100 story building on or by the site of the International Building, which at the time was the Central Library. It was a simple four sided column looking similar to the World Trade Center but had a gothic appearance similar to the Milam Building. If anyone knows anything more on this please share.
Its all cause and effect. After the Depression era, reliable cars and public transportation, seemingly endless supply of drinking water, etc. the city was decentralized. Miles and miles of uninorporated land all around us ripe for development. Why build up when you can build out? USAA Headquarters has more square footage than most skyscrapers, including the Sears Tower.
The sprawl goes on for decades and has picked up steam but the end is drawing near. Encroachment on the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone and Camp Bullis, as well as infrastructure expenses and the rising cost of gas and increasing pollution etc., the city is seeing once again the benefits of centralization. The "Decade of Downtown" proclamation and creation of the Center City Development Office is evidence of this. The Downtown Alliance would like to see the downtown population to grow up to 50,000 within 20 years.
But even then I don't think that our downtown is on its way to looking like Houston or Dallas. I've always felt that if downtown does get any highrises they would be built by hotels chains or by businesses already located downtown (Frost, At&T, HEB, etc.). Or it would be built by the city, like a monument or structure intended to bolster the city's image or spur tourism dollars. But in the meantime I think it will be the cost-effective midrise building that will make up the majority of downtown development. With that said, I still think that the South Texas Building kicks ass.
So yeah I agree 100%.

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I have several renderings that are about half done. Any requests? Still finishing up that Emily Morgan project, Mercury. I have ADD or something can't work on any one project for very long.
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Was thinking...

If they legalized gambling in Texas, we could see something like these:








Or this....



Whichever one you prefer. Not even sure if the city would designate an area downtown for gambling though.
I would love to see some new casinos built along an undeveloped stretch of the river. Perhaps as an extension of the "urban" section of the riverwalk which is lined with restaurants/shops/hotels/etc. And instead of seeing mega-huge casinos along the river, perhaps just a lot of small but intricate and highly detailed and stylized casinos under some hotels that aren't all glass and steel, but instead made of masonry and look historic (ala monte carlo, etc). That would be unique, something only San Antonio could boast about.
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I would love to see some new casinos built along an undeveloped stretch of the river. Perhaps as an extension of the "urban" section of the riverwalk which is lined with restaurants/shops/hotels/etc. And instead of seeing mega-huge casinos along the river, perhaps just a lot of small but intricate and highly detailed and stylized casinos under some hotels that aren't all glass and steel, but instead made of masonry and look historic (ala monte carlo, etc). That would be unique, something only San Antonio could boast about.
I think something like the Venetian would look great on the Riverwalk, partly because we already have a waterway and it would look more authentic.

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200 Jefferson

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I would like a medium sized box in SA
But would be nice to have something above 600 ft too!
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Trinity Plaza

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