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freerover · #**101** Posted **Jun 1, 2021, 4:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by drummer

If I-35 gets lowered - either to cap or left open - would that begin at Holly St. or Cesar Chavez?

My reason for asking is that if it starts at or before Holly St., it will feel less like an access road (to a degree), especially if they cap the highway with a park down the road. At that point, it would be hugely advantageous to have retail/restaurants.

Edit: Looks like ATX and I posted about the same time. It would be hard to work something into that layout, for sure.

The highway will go below grade just east of Cesar. Holly St will still have an OVERpass with elevated mainlanes there like now it if the crossing isn't removed completely.

wwmiv · #**102** Posted **Jun 1, 2021, 7:39 PM**

How old is that visual and does it reflect TxDOT’s current thinking? I’ve tried looking this up my own, but without a link to that visual I am not having much success. It indicates that TXDOT is backing away from a plan which would allow for capped parkland.

kingkirbythe.... · #**103** Posted **Jun 1, 2021, 10:52 PM**

Alternative 1 would be best.

wwmiv · #**104** Posted **Jun 2, 2021, 1:05 AM**

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Alternative 1 would be best.

I had thought alternative 1 was the only option under consideration any longer.

Geckos_Rule · #**105** Posted **Jun 2, 2021, 2:10 PM**

Sorry, but what do they mean by "managed" lanes? I understand the general point of the tunnel to reconnect east austin and downtown, and essentially provide a higher-efficiency pass-through of downtown, but how would alternatives 2 and 3 even change things? Just adding above-ground roads that are essentially "express lanes"?

freerover · #**106** Posted **Jun 2, 2021, 2:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by wwmiv

How old is that visual and does it reflect TxDOT’s current thinking? I’ve tried looking this up my own, but without a link to that visual I am not having much success. It indicates that TXDOT is backing away from a plan which would allow for capped parkland.

It's about a month old. TxDot has been very consistent that they were NOT putting in caps and the city could come in the future and pay to install them.

StoOgE · #**107** Posted **Jun 2, 2021, 2:43 PM**

How is the city looking on financing the caps? I would assume a bond package for a "new park" downtown would go well.

freerover · #**108** Posted **Jun 2, 2021, 4:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by StoOgE

How is the city looking on financing the caps? I would assume a bond package for a "new park" downtown would go well.

It's on everyone's radar but we need a final design from TxDot. The estimate I remember hearing is the cost would be about 700-800 million for the caps. I'm not sure how that will play outside downtown in a bond vote. I think we need to try to pressure TxDot to pay for them and install on the initial contract.

wwmiv · #**109** Posted **Jun 2, 2021, 4:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by freerover

It's about a month old. TxDot has been very consistent that they were NOT putting in caps and the city could come in the future and pay to install them.

Yes... which is why I said “ALLOW FOR.”

And they’d also been VERY CLEAR that any design option would ALLOW FOR them to be built (by the city). Two of these design options completely rule out later caps by the city.

Take your corrections and apply them to someone whose language actually says what you think you’re correcting, thanks, and maybe read between the lines and pick up on some of the subtext I’m throwing down.

freerover · #**110** Posted **Jun 2, 2021, 5:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by wwmiv

Yes... which is why I said “ALLOW FOR.”

And they’d also been VERY CLEAR that any design option would ALLOW FOR them to be built (by the city). Two of these design options completely rule out later caps by the city.

Take your corrections and apply them to someone whose language actually says what you think you’re correcting, thanks, and maybe read between the lines and pick up on some of the subtext I’m throwing down.

I don't think you understand the schematic because none of them would disallow the downtown caps.

wwmiv · #**111** Posted **Jun 2, 2021, 5:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by freerover

I don't think you understand the schematic because none of them would disallow the downtown caps.

You know what?

I think you’re right.

The ATX · #**112** Posted **Jun 8, 2021, 3:46 PM**

Demo permit for the restaurant was filed today:

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...pertyrsn=93062

The ATX · #**113** Posted **Jun 30, 2021, 4:03 PM**

There was an excavator parked on the site yesterday, and Demo has been approved. But no work was being done.

Urbannizer · #**114** Posted **Jun 30, 2021, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

There was an excavator parked on the site yesterday, and Demo has been approved. But no work was being done.

Urbannizer · #**115** Posted **Jul 1, 2021, 10:40 PM**

Demo underway, half the building is gone.

The ATX · #**116** Posted **Jul 2, 2021, 1:38 AM**

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Demo underway, half the building is gone.

I just drove by it. Demo sure doesn't take long. It'll be finished Monday if they take the weekend off.

The ATX · #**117** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 2:59 AM**

It looks like demo is complete. They just need to clean up the broken stuff scattered around the site.

Urbannizer · #**118** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 1:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

It looks like demo is complete. They just need to clean up the broken stuff scattered around the site.

Can we say, site prep?

The ATX · #**119** Posted **Jul 15, 2021, 4:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Urbannizer

Can we say, site prep?

I think we can say Site Prep. But it may be like the Travis Site Prep in that it's not an official groundbreaking. Neither the Site Plan or Plan Review appear real close to being approved. But it's getting harder to figure that out now that the City doesn't isn't uploading as much info for public consumptions as they use to.

The ATX · #**120** Posted **Aug 4, 2021, 9:23 PM**

The site plan was approved and released today. Excavation looks like it's close to finishing because they don't have to dig very deep.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...pertyrsn=93062