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Old Posted Jan 17, 2019, 7:05 PM
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It's also important to acknowledge that this wasn't the case in the 60s. Something happened to these communities that changed the family dynamic.
^ Well, what happened were the 60's, when a relatively well-behaved society that respected law, order, and family turned into a bunch of arrogant, self-absorbed assholes (all races) obsessed with pleasure, self-discovery, and blaming their parents for "not being there".

It's America post-1960's. Find a reason to whine, claim victimhood, and feel sorry for yourself, all while trying to maximize pleasure and shirk responsibility--a mindset that one of our two major political parties has latched onto and nursed for the past 50 years.

So yeah, I'm not surprised by all the infidelity
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There's one topic that could fix the South Side, but no politician is brave enough to say it.

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The best fix for these communities is two parent households raising children.
Let's fix our criminal justice system so this can happen.
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2019, 9:16 PM
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^ Why would one need to get a job with a F500 company to have a middle class life?
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2019, 10:12 PM
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^ Why would one need to get a job with a F500 company to have a middle class life?
Yea, that doesn't make much sense. There are plenty of options to carve out a middle-class lifestyle (although fewer than there once were). I do think people here are applying a bit of survivorship bias with these "5 simple rules".

It ignores all sorts of fundamental aspects of one's life that impacts their path. Things so varied as childhood lead exposure, bias in the justice system, parent's financial situation, K-12 schools funded by property taxes (which make it harder for poor people to attain), etc.

I grew up in a two-parent household in an upper-middle class community with great schools (Wheaton). My parent's were there to help me with homework every night and (mostly) keep me in line when I strayed. I still had to make positive decisions myself, but my margin for error was so much larger than many other kids.

In high school, I was twice picked up by the cops for drinking in public. Luckily for me, the police took me back to my parent's house and allowed them to handle my punishment instead of the justice system. It doesn't take much to imagine the scenario playing out differently if I was a black, hispanic or arabic kid in a poor neighborhood.
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I do think people here are applying a bit of survivorship bias with these "5 simple rules".
yeah, i think i mispoke when i said "easiest" path to the middle class.

"easy" was the wrong word to use because it's certainly not easy for everyone, or we wouldn't be having this discussion.

the "most straightforward" path to the middle class or something along those lines would have been better.

and true to everything else you wrote. having the right skin color/socio-economic status grants one all kinds of crazy privileges and extremely generous margins in our society.
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Remember, the median family income in Illinois is about $80K. That's not that hard for two people to do.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2019, 3:24 PM
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An actual plan for the pensions from Vallas.

Expiring TIFs
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As a contingency against delays or partial success in implementing the Springfield agenda and a hedge against unanticipated expenditure increases the City could consider issuing a Pension Obligation Bond financed through the revenue windfall from expiring TIFs. This would protect the City’s existing revenue base from further securitization, while providing a substantial increase in the amount invested in the retirement systems, thereby significantly reducing the increase in the annual contribution.

A Citywide TIF would be created to capture the revenue from expiring TIFs, the revenues of which could be dedicated to pension funding.
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I have identified a number of specific budget areas where I believe the growth in City non-pension spending could be reduced over the next five years to provide the balance of what is needed to meet the City’s pension obligations. These areas include overtime, contractual services, worker’s compensation, healthcare, and more. Just a five percent reduction in base spending over the next five years would enable the City to meet the balance of the pension funding ramp up. By 2023, the State mandated annual increases in pension contributions will be much more moderate and financially manageable - not only as a result of the almost doubling of contributions, but because of the increasing numbers of Tier 2 employees in the system.
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^ Isn't a citywide TIF just robbing Peter to pay Paul, though? Now you really are choking off funding to CPS, Park District and the city's general fund, which also are relying on the growth in property tax revenues to pay off debt and keep the city running. One of the reasons (in my mind) that TIFs were defensible was because they were targeted at selected areas of the city, and a majority of the city's property fell outside of a TIF district.

Also might need some enabling legislation at the state level to allow more flexibility in how TIF is used.

I attended the Active Transportation forum last week. Given Vallas' reputation as a technocrat I was expecting a strong plan to grow CTA ridership with some policy ideas, but I was disappointed. He offered no specifics, just platitudes about the importance of CTA and reminiscing about riding the bus as a boy. Seems like he was unprepared. He promised to put out a transportation platform soon, but so far the only idea he's put out there is converting Metra Electric to a CTA operation instead of extending the Red Line. That's not a bad idea, but it's not a citywide strategy unless he wants to do the same to several other Metra lines.
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^ Isn't a citywide TIF just robbing Peter to pay Paul, though? Now you really are choking off funding to CPS, Park District and the city's general fund, which also are relying on the growth in property tax revenues to pay off debt and keep the city running. One of the reasons (in my mind) that TIFs were defensible was because they were targeted at selected areas of the city, and a majority of the city's property fell outside of a TIF district.

Also might need some enabling legislation at the state level to allow more flexibility in how TIF is used.

I attended the Active Transportation forum last week. Given Vallas' reputation as a technocrat I was expecting a strong plan to grow CTA ridership with some policy ideas, but I was disappointed. He offered no specifics, just platitudes about the importance of CTA and reminiscing about riding the bus as a boy. Seems like he was unprepared. He promised to put out a transportation platform soon, but so far the only idea he's put out there is converting Metra Electric to a CTA operation instead of extending the Red Line. That's not a bad idea, but it's not a citywide strategy unless he wants to do the same to several other Metra lines.
As I read it, the citywide TIF would capture the revenue from the expiring TIFs not create “new” ones. Yes, that revenue would otherwise go into the general fund as TIFs ended, but this would dedicate it to a specific line item. It would also allow them to bond out the future value of the TIF revenues and attempt to re-amortize the payment schedule. It’s not a perfect solution, but it does give dedicated money to the pensions without directly raising taxes.
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^ Seems like "citywide TIF" is a misnomer, this would only act to use TIF surplus funds from existing districts. But is that really a whole lot of money, as compared to the size of the pension hole? Previous TIF surpluses have been 8-figure sums, not 10-figure sums.
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^ Seems like "citywide TIF" is a misnomer, this would only act to use TIF surplus funds from existing districts. But is that really a whole lot of money, as compared to the size of the pension hole? Previous TIF surpluses have been 8-figure sums, not 10-figure sums.
The most recent budget includes $175 million of TIF surplus, but I still don’t think that is what’s being proposed. I understand Vallas as proposing a new TIF (fund) to collect revenue when existing TIFs expire or are terminated. For example, when the Loop TIF ends its 23-year life, you would divert the next year’s TIF amount to this new TIF dedicated to pensions instead of putting it into the general fund as happens today when TIFs end.
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The most recent budget includes $175 million of TIF surplus, but I still don’t think that is what’s being proposed. I understand Vallas as proposing a new TIF (fund) to collect revenue when existing TIFs expire or are terminated. For example, when the Loop TIF ends its 23-year life, you would divert the next year’s TIF amount to this new TIF dedicated to pensions instead of putting it into the general fund as happens today when TIFs end.
This is exactly what Vallas is proposing. It is not a bad idea.
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Rent control for or against:

Preckwinkle: likely for
Mendoza: unknown
Daley: likely against
Chico: against (he has stated such)
Vallas: likely against
Willie Wilson: so awesome that I don’t care where he stands
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^ OUCH!

The Burke shitwagon is just gonna keep dragging Preckwinkle deeper and deeper into the mud
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Ald. Solis is expected to resign, according to the Sun-Times. He has been a secret informant as part of the federal investigation into Ald. Burke.

Most of the story here is juicy but not relevant to this forum, so let's leave that aside. What is relevant here is that Solis is the chair of the zoning committee, and his ward includes the West Loop and all the development happening there. He was already not planning to run for re-election, but this accelerates the timing. Any view on who could replace him and what their attitude toward development is?
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Ald. Solis is expected to resign, according to the Sun-Times. He has been a secret informant as part of the federal investigation into Ald. Burke.

Most of the story here is juicy but not relevant to this forum, so let's leave that aside. What is relevant here is that Solis is the chair of the zoning committee, and his ward includes the West Loop and all the development happening there. He was already not planning to run for re-election, but this accelerates the timing. Any view on who could replace him and what their attitude toward development is?
Oh holy shit... That's huge news, it's likely that many heads are going to roll on this crackdown. Solis is literally the center of Chicago zoning clout mongering. All alderman who have struck deals under the table for zoning are officially on notice. The real question is what the Feds had on Solis to make him flip or whether he had just had enough and decided to cooperate and bring everything down around him.

When a feudal alderman abdicates the king gets to choose his successor. In other words Rahm gets to choose a replacement to serve out his term. Ironically that's how Solis got his seat to begin with. Was appointed by Daley after Medrano went to the can for taking bribes.
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Spoiler: The Feds have ‘stuff’ on Solis.

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Ald. Solis is expected to resign, according to the Sun-Times. He has been a secret informant as part of the federal investigation into Ald. Burke.

Most of the story here is juicy but not relevant to this forum, so let's leave that aside. What is relevant here is that Solis is the chair of the zoning committee, and his ward includes the West Loop and all the development happening there. He was already not planning to run for re-election, but this accelerates the timing. Any view on who could replace him and what their attitude toward development is?
This is the politics thread. It's all relevant. I do wonder what the Feds got on Danny boy to flip him. Surely it wasn't anything having to do with Pilsen real estate, because the neighborhood's seen virtually nothing in terms of zoning changes. If some developer gave him a bribe for a Pilsen project, it clearly didn't help lol. But the 25th Ward does contain big chunks of the fast-developing West and South Loop where the unofficial Pilsen affordable-housing quotas don't apply, so it could be something real estate-related after all.

LVDW is right, Rahm will appoint a temporary successor to Solis should he resign. Rahm is chafing at the bit to get Lincoln Yards and The 78 approved before his term ends, so I'm sure he will appoint somebody pliant to lead the 25th Ward, and hand the Zoning Committee chairmanship to a more experienced (but still loyal) alderman. Cappleman is currently the vice chair, maybe it will go to him. Or Moreno.

As far as the candidates for the actual election in the 25th Ward, virtually all of them are Latin socialists. Aida Flores is probably the best of the bunch, but Byron Sigcho has the most name recognition so he is likely to win. I don't think Rahm's hypothetical appointee would be able to jump into the election and run for the seat like Solis did back in the 90s, since we are so close to the election.
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Maybe that's why Solis is resigning. Being an Alderman just ain't that "fun" anymore.

Seriously, it's too bad that those developers couldn't grease him up good for that huge development on 18th (a few blocks west of Halsted) that Solis keeps blocking. That giant swath of land badly needs development. And besides, east Pilsen is already well into the gentrification process, lost cause to keep fighting it.
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^ Since Rahm’s replacement for Solis won’t last for but a few months anyway.....

Great chance for people who want some upzonings in Pilsen to jump in on the action and get the changes approved before this new crop of Aldermen Che Guevaras take over
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