The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread

[JHikka]

The site plans posted by Fischbob list the heights as 5,5, and 6 storeys respectively.

[WharfRat]

The East Point residential/mixed-use development sounds promising, will be nice to see renderings.

Also, if anyone is traveling by the field house and could snap a pic or two that would be awesome or at least an update on the progress, Cheers!

[Wolkenkratzerliebhab]

Originally Posted by JHikka

The site plans posted by Fischbob list the heights as 5,5, and 6 storeys respectively.

Thanks, JHikka, I didn't notice. I was nonetheless close at least. Hope renderings follow soon.

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by Wolkenkratzerliebhab

Thanks, JHikka, I didn't notice. I was nonetheless close at least. Hope renderings follow soon.

I'm assuming they'll just be drab suburban-looking mid-rise apartment buildings. I'm not expecting anything remarkable for power centre residential.

[NB_ExistsToo]

Is there an actual desire to have residential living inside the East Point Shopping sphere? Seems like a strange location to try and make a community.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by NB_ExistsToo

Is there an actual desire to have residential living inside the East Point Shopping sphere? Seems like a strange location to try and make a community.

They're adding a residential component to Dartmouth Crossing too.

1) - we are in a world where bricks & mortar retail is struggling. There probably aren't enough potential retailers available to flesh out the development.
2) - by having residents as part of the development, you are increasing the potential customer base, which would make the current retailers more successful.

There's nothing inherently wrong with mixed use projects, but it would be better if they were planned as such from the beginning. To add in apartment buildings helter skelter might be a planning nightmare and undesirable to potential residents........

[OliverD]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

There's nothing inherently wrong with mixed use projects, but it would be better if they were planned as such from the beginning. To add in apartment buildings helter skelter might be a planning nightmare and undesirable to potential residents........

That was my thinking as well.

This was inevitable though. There's a lot of malls across North America that are being converted to mixed uses. Basically using the acres of parking to build new residential, retail, and office spaces.

It will be interesting to see how this project fleshes out.

[ColSJ]

The Mitchell apartments in the North End have been moving along very nicely. A 3 million dollar investment into housing in Saint John by an outside developer.

[michael_d40]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

They're adding a residential component to Dartmouth Crossing too.

1) - we are in a world where bricks & mortar retail is struggling. There probably aren't enough potential retailers available to flesh out the development.
2) - by having residents as part of the development, you are increasing the potential customer base, which would make the current retailers more successful.

There's nothing inherently wrong with mixed use projects, but it would be better if they were planned as such from the beginning. To add in apartment buildings helter skelter might be a planning nightmare and undesirable to potential residents........

Oddly enough - the original plans for East Point did involve a residential component. For some reason once they started they didn't go forward with residential and pivoted. 10 years later it looks like they are pivoting again and going back to their original plan. lol

[NB_ExistsToo]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

They're adding a residential component to Dartmouth Crossing too.

1) - we are in a world where bricks & mortar retail is struggling. There probably aren't enough potential retailers available to flesh out the development.
2) - by having residents as part of the development, you are increasing the potential customer base, which would make the current retailers more successful.

There's nothing inherently wrong with mixed use projects, but it would be better if they were planned as such from the beginning. To add in apartment buildings helter skelter might be a planning nightmare and undesirable to potential residents........

I didn't hear about the Dartmouth Crossing developments, but that is even more strange, At least at East Point, there's essentially everything you would need within walking distance. DC is just a bunch of well known outlet/big box stores... why would you want to live in the middle of that?

I guess the more I think about it... East Point may not be too bad for driverless people, got a grocery store, LC, book store, coffee, banking, eye doctor, restaurants. And those retired people would have plenty of time to go to Kent, CT, HD and Costco

that's all before they expand and put in other amenities. So I retract my previous thinking... seems like it may work out.

[michael_d40]

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[WharfRat]

Very nice conversion, awesome they added balconies too. I see Parrtown Place development also added balconies on the back side. An important aspect to inner city living IMO.

https://huddle.today/a-peek-inside-the-new-oceanside-apartments-in-uptown-saint-john/

http://urbanplans.blogspot.com/

[JHikka]

Really great looking apartments at the former Salvation Army building. So great to see all of the refurb projects going on in the Uptown.

[RaginRonic]

Originally Posted by ColSJ

The Mitchell apartments in the North End have been moving along very nicely. A 3 million dollar investment into housing in Saint John by an outside developer.

I take a look at the rendering at the bottom, and I think I've solved how many bedrooms each unit in each building has.

The one in the very back is the only one that has 3 bedrooms, and, from the way the windows line up there, on the left side of the building, going from the middle to the extreme outside, the room order is Kitchen-Living Room-Bedroom 1-Bedroom 2-Bedroom 3(Master)-Bathroom(facing the hill).

The buildings from the one that faces Parks St. to the one that is right beside the 3-bedroom are the 2-bedroom buildings.

The one that faces Rockland Rd., and the Parks St. entry to Rocmaura, is the lone 1-bedroom building.

If I did some number crunching here, it'd be this in terms of number of people in those 72 total units.

3-bedroom building
12 units
Avg. 4 people per unit(2 adults and 2 kids)
48 people

4 2-bedroom buildings
12 units per building
48 units
Avg. 3 people per unit(2 adults and 1 kid)
144 people

1-bedroom building
12 units
Avg. 2 people per unit(couples) or 1 person per unit(single)
Range of 12-24 people in the building

Total number of residents in all buildings-Range of 204-216 residents.

And I do like what that crew has been doing there. I hope that all 72 units there will be occupied once again.

=)

[kwajo]

Inside the new IOL building



Credit: Irving Oil Ltd.'s social media

[MonctonRad]

This will definitely be one of the finest office buildings in the region for quite some time.

[ColSJ]

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1633126

CTV has done a report on the Gothic Arches church in Uptown Saint John. Given all the facts provided in the report, what do you think should be next? The city has the authority to go forward with demolition but if they chose such path we'll end up with a large vacant lot. Can we rely on a developer to come in with interest in this area? With that being said let's say someone buys the building with the intention of renovating it. First off its gonna cost you five hundred thousand to obtain ownership and then renovations will go into the millions. So what is the best way of moving forward?

[thefishingnut]

Originally Posted by ColSJ

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1633126

CTV has done a report on the Gothic Arches church in Uptown Saint John. Given all the facts provided in the report, what do you think should be next? The city has the authority to go forward with demolition but if they chose such path we'll end up with a large vacant lot. Can we rely on a developer to come in with interest in this area? With that being said let's say someone buys the building with the intention of renovating it. First off its gonna cost you five hundred thousand to obtain ownership and then renovations will go into the millions. So what is the best way of moving forward?

The congregation moved out 20 years ago, and no sustainable (i.e. enough recurring business to properly maintain the building) use has been found. Each passing year it gets in worse condition. It would be millions to just repair the roof. Cost estimates to fix the Cathedral were something like $16 million to keep it as a church, let alone convert it to something like condos.


I think the City should set a firm demolition date in the near future. Say July 15. I think the City should also make a pledge of tax relief for a repurposed building, because I do believe that it would be a shame to have it knocked down. That would force anyone out of the woodwork and failing someone coming forward tear it down before someone gets killed from the building falling apart.

[cdnguys]

My first thought is the previous owner purchased it for 100,000 in 2012 so what makes him think he can fetch 5 x that for a building he couldn’t even make feasible plans for. Be nice if shingles could be secured and designate it as “ruins” and let it be to take it’s place permanently as a land,ark on the skyline

[cdnguys]

I posted some interior photos of new IRVING Oil HQ on that forum. Fair warning pics are large as I don’t know how to resize.