YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 581

trofirhen · #**11601** Posted **Jun 7, 2017, 11:36 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prometheus

For any of you number-crunching airport nerds, what do you think the probability of YVR breaking 24 million in 2017 is?

In 2016 YVR handled an official 22,288,522 pax.
Therefore, given that growth seems increasing at about a little bit more than 9 percent more than last year between 2105 up to the end of 2016, the percentage increase needs to be calculated...... I'll be back later with the math results ...........
... OK ......
2015 year-end total was 20.3 million pax
2015 year-end total was 22..288
That's just shy of 2 million more pax than the preceding year.
That is a percentage increase of .91131, or pushing ten percent, but at the low end of 9+
So you'd probably need over nine ++ a bit to make that 24m; more like near 10 per cent. A challenge.
However, with all the new USA and overseas routes coming online this year, the larger market in actual seat sales might just do it, pushing it to 24m pax.
Will YVR reach 24m this year? It"s like a spinning coin. If not 24m, then pretty close to it, IMO

nname · #**11602** Posted **Jun 7, 2017, 11:59 PM**

24,000,000 / 22,288,522 = 1.077 ... so that's 7.7% growth

We're definitely on pace for that.

trofirhen · #**11603** Posted **Jun 8, 2017, 12:45 AM**

Do I need math lessons, or am I simply losing it?

Klazu · #**11604** Posted **Jun 8, 2017, 2:50 AM**

With that growth we would hit capacity next year. Is there currently some expansion underway or are they still designing? With this pace YVR will soon struggle to keep up with growth. Very soon.

Gordon · #**11605** Posted **Jun 8, 2017, 4:36 AM**

We may well hit 24 million this year or next, and there have been no updates on the next terminal expansions.

Tomorrows gate assignments shoe no D59 & no use of the D\E swing gates either on a day when ac's 3 new routes active.

Johnny Aussie · #**11606** Posted **Jun 8, 2017, 5:39 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klazu

With that growth we would hit capacity next year. Is there currently some expansion underway or are they still designing? With this pace YVR will soon struggle to keep up with growth. Very soon.

Expect an official announcement soon. All the hints of a D and E expansion are real.

Construction to commence next year.

Hot Rod · #**11607** Posted **Jun 8, 2017, 5:58 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

We may well hit 24 million this year or next, and there have been no updates on the next terminal expansions.

Tomorrows gate assignments shoe no D59 & no use of the D\E swing gates either on a day when ac's 3 new routes active.

heck, 25M pax per year is only 12.2%; which I believe is achievable with the great summer anticipated. ...

Time to start expansion, NOW!

osirisboy · #**11608** Posted **Jun 8, 2017, 6:03 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Expect an official announcement soon. All the hints of a D and E expansion are real.

Construction to commence next year.

So they want to do d and e at the same time? What is that like 8 gates?

nname · #**11609** Posted **Jun 8, 2017, 7:38 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klazu

With that growth we would hit capacity next year. Is there currently some expansion underway or are they still designing? With this pace YVR will soon struggle to keep up with growth. Very soon.

Well, we already hit capacity somewhat.... there's not enough gate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

We may well hit 24 million this year or next, and there have been no updates on the next terminal expansions.

Tomorrows gate assignments shoe no D59 & no use of the D\E swing gates either on a day when ac's 3 new routes active.

Well, there's no FI, JD, CZ's MEX, 2nd CA's PEK, TS's LGW flight tomorrow. Wait till Friday... or next week when TS seasonal flights goes full swing... or end of this month when HX joins at the busiest time....

Gordon · #**11610** Posted **Jun 8, 2017, 6:52 PM**

Have the bridges been removed on gates 90 - 92 because the app doesn't show any bridges for those gates?

Johnny Aussie · #**11611** Posted **Jun 8, 2017, 9:21 PM**

So last week was FRA and NGO....

Today it's TPE AND LGW.

nname · #**11612** Posted **Jun 9, 2017, 8:59 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

We may well hit 24 million this year or next, and there have been no updates on the next terminal expansions.

Tomorrows gate assignments shoe no D59 & no use of the D\E swing gates either on a day when ac's 3 new routes active.

And gate D59 is in use today (Friday) for 1 flight (CZ), and there's no FI flight for today...

Some interesting gate assignment - WS23 from London will arrive at gate E79 (all the D gates are full at that time), and E93 is in use tomorrow.

I notice that AC1956 from Nagoya is so late that it'll have exactly 7min to unload all passengers before AC12 from Taipei pulls in. The bad part..? I just don't see any free spot to move the delayed flight to, other than E82 and E93 (which I don't think would fit a 767...)

Gotta love the new YVR site, which makes it so easy to write scripts to grab and parse all the departure and arrival data...

Gordon · #**11613** Posted **Jun 9, 2017, 2:04 PM**

Can a 767 use a regular transboarder gate? There is also gate E 85

nname · #**11614** Posted **Jun 9, 2017, 4:20 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

Can a 767 use a regular transboarder gate? There is also gate E 85

Apparently, they can fit in E79, which is a regular trans-boarder gate (swing gate only goes up to 78)

It works out in the end because the Nagoya delayed right past the busiest time at the airport. The ones that caused a lot of gate changes are actually the delay of JD from Hangzhou and early of WS from London...

(note to self: next time at YVR I really need to pay attention to last-minute gate changes - because there are quite a lot of them now...)

Today's gate assignment for flights between 11:00-15:00, as of 9am:

Code:

Gate 48
  =>D	12:30	AC184	763	Toronto

Gate 49
A=>	11:35	AC26	789	Shanghai
  =>D	13:45	AC118	789	Toronto

Gate 50
  =>D	12:20	AC29	773	Beijing
  =>D	14:30	AC1984	319	Mexico City

Gate 51
  =>D	11:10	AC11	789	Taipei
A=>	12:10	TS409	332	Paris

Gate 52
A=>	11:17	AF374	772	Paris
  =>D	13:30	AF379	772	Paris
A=>	14:35	TS285	332	Manchester

Gate 53
A=>	11:46	AC12	789	Taipei
  =>D	13:25	AC3	789	Tokyo
A=>	14:09	NZ24	772	Auckland

Gate 54
A=>	11:11	CA997	77W	Beijing
  =>D	12:35	CA998	77W	Beijing

Gate 55
  =>D	12:25	AC840	788	Frankfurt
A=>	14:05	LH492	744	Frankfurt

Gate 58
  =>D	11:00	AC63	789	Seoul-Incheon
A=>	11:40	AC855	773	London
  =>D	13:35	AC7	773	Hong Kong

Gate 59
  =>D	12:25	CZ378	788	Guangzhou

Gate 64
  =>D	11:25	AC25	789	Shanghai
A=>	12:28	KE71	74H	Seoul-Incheon
  =>D	14:50	KE72	74H	Seoul-Incheon

Gate 65
  =>D	12:05	AC1951	76W	Osaka
A=>	12:49	CX838	77W	Hong Kong
  =>D	14:45	CX837	77W	Hong Kong

Gate 66
  =>D	13:20	MU582	332	Shanghai
A=>	14:37	NH116	789	Tokyo

Gate 67
A=>	11:01	CZ329	788	Guangzhou
  =>D	13:10	CZ330	788	Guangzhou
A=>	13:24	KL681	333	Amsterdam

Gate 70
A=>	14:56	AC1956	76W	Nagoya
  =>D	14:25	JL17	788	Tokyo

Gate 71
A=>	12:00	JD471	332	Hangzhou
  =>D	11:50	3U8502	332	Chengdu
  =>D	13:10	JD472	332	Hangzhou

Gate 73
A=>	12:42	PR118	773	Manila

Gate 75
A=>	12:12	AC30	773	Beijing

Gate 76
A=>	11:46	UA287	73J	Chicago
  =>D	13:40	UA298	73J	Chicago

Gate 77
A=>	11:57	UA213	320	Houston
  =>D	12:47	UA595	320	San Francisco
A=>	12:51	UA5419	E7W	Los Angeles
  =>D	13:55	UA5547	E7W	Los Angeles

Gate 78
A=>	11:06	UA784	320	San Francisco
  =>D	12:05	UA671	320	Houston
A=>	13:05	UA685	73J	San Francisco
  =>D	14:05	UA887	73J	San Francisco
A=>	14:54	UA2008	73J	Chicago

Gate 79
A=>	13:00	WS23	76W	London Gatwick

Gate 80
A=>	11:14	WS1701	73W	Los Angeles
  =>D	12:45	WS1774	73W	San Francisco
A=>	13:27	UA323	73J	Denver
  =>D	15:00	UA381	73J	Denver

Gate 81
A=>	12:47	AA1264	73H	Dallas Ft Wrth
  =>D	13:20	AA1189	73H	Dallas Ft Wrth
A=>	13:21	AA506	319	Phoenix
  =>D	14:30	AA500	319	Phoenix

Gate 82
  =>D	14:15	AC554	320	Los Angeles

Gate 83
  =>D	11:10	AC1898	319	Las Vegas
  =>D	13:40	WS1726	73H	Palm Springs
A=>	14:29	WS1697	73H	Los Angeles

Gate 84
  =>D	12:05	AC538	319	Anchorage
  =>D	13:40	AC566	320	San Francisco
A=>	14:08	AC563	319	San Francisco
  =>D	14:55	AC534	319	Chicago

Gate 86
  =>D	11:05	WS1754	73W	Orange County
A=>	11:45	DL2916	319	Minneapolis
  =>D	13:00	DL2915	319	Minneapolis
A=>	13:41	AA6063	E75	Los Angeles
  =>D	14:22	AA6063	E75	Los Angeles

Gate 87
  =>D	11:05	AC552	320	Los Angeles
A=>	11:47	DL1805	739	Atlanta
  =>D	13:05	DL2450	739	Atlanta
A=>	14:01	AC8115	CR9	San Jose
  =>D	14:40	AC8110	CR9	Denver

Gate 88
A=>	12:20	DL2929	319	Los Angeles
  =>D	14:02	DL2928	319	Los Angeles
A=>	14:31	DL5818	E75	Seattle

Gate 90
  =>D	11:20	DL4821	E75	Seattle
A=>	12:27	DL4684	CR9	Salt Lake City
  =>D	13:07	DL4685	CR9	Salt Lake City
A=>	13:55	AC8229	CR9	Phoenix
  =>D	14:30	AC8114	CR9	San Jose

Gate 92
  =>D	13:10	AC8626	CR9	Dallas Ft Wrth

Gate 93
  =>D	13:10	AC8668	CR9	San Diego

Gate 94
A=>	12:49	AC8092	DH4	Seattle
  =>D	13:30	AC8125	DH4	Portland

Gate 95
A=>	11:31	AC8118	DH4	Portland
  =>D	12:55	AC8097	DH4	Seattle

Gate 96
A=>	13:51	AS2242	DH4	Seattle
  =>D	14:31	AS2267	DH4	Seattle

Unassigned
  =>D	11:58	AS702	73J	Seattle
A=>	13:53	AC8888	CR9	Whitehorse

Note: the list is sorted by scheduled time, but all time shown are estimated time... so they may not seems to be in order...

Cage · #**11615** Posted **Jun 9, 2017, 5:24 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname

(note to self: next time at YVR I really need to pay attention to last-minute gate changes - because there are quite a lot of them now...)

Appears the YVRAA might need the services of a call to gate system. I know of a Canadian airport that over bought technology and might be looking for a new forever home for CtG.

osirisboy · #**11616** Posted **Jun 9, 2017, 9:25 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname

Apparently, they can fit in E79, which is a regular trans-boarder gate (swing gate only goes up to 78)

It works out in the end because the Nagoya delayed right past the busiest time at the airport. The ones that caused a lot of gate changes are actually the delay of JD from Hangzhou and early of WS from London...

(note to self: next time at YVR I really need to pay attention to last-minute gate changes - because there are quite a lot of them now...)

Today's gate assignment for flights between 11:00-15:00, as of 9am:

Code:

Gate 48
  =>D	12:30	AC184	763	Toronto

Gate 49
A=>	11:35	AC26	789	Shanghai
  =>D	13:45	AC118	789	Toronto

Gate 50
  =>D	12:20	AC29	773	Beijing
  =>D	14:30	AC1984	319	Mexico City

Gate 51
  =>D	11:10	AC11	789	Taipei
A=>	12:10	TS409	332	Paris

Gate 52
A=>	11:17	AF374	772	Paris
  =>D	13:30	AF379	772	Paris
A=>	14:35	TS285	332	Manchester

Gate 53
A=>	11:46	AC12	789	Taipei
  =>D	13:25	AC3	789	Tokyo
A=>	14:09	NZ24	772	Auckland

Gate 54
A=>	11:11	CA997	77W	Beijing
  =>D	12:35	CA998	77W	Beijing

Gate 55
  =>D	12:25	AC840	788	Frankfurt
A=>	14:05	LH492	744	Frankfurt

Gate 58
  =>D	11:00	AC63	789	Seoul-Incheon
A=>	11:40	AC855	773	London
  =>D	13:35	AC7	773	Hong Kong

Gate 59
  =>D	12:25	CZ378	788	Guangzhou

Gate 64
  =>D	11:25	AC25	789	Shanghai
A=>	12:28	KE71	74H	Seoul-Incheon
  =>D	14:50	KE72	74H	Seoul-Incheon

Gate 65
  =>D	12:05	AC1951	76W	Osaka
A=>	12:49	CX838	77W	Hong Kong
  =>D	14:45	CX837	77W	Hong Kong

Gate 66
  =>D	13:20	MU582	332	Shanghai
A=>	14:37	NH116	789	Tokyo

Gate 67
A=>	11:01	CZ329	788	Guangzhou
  =>D	13:10	CZ330	788	Guangzhou
A=>	13:24	KL681	333	Amsterdam

Gate 70
A=>	14:56	AC1956	76W	Nagoya
  =>D	14:25	JL17	788	Tokyo

Gate 71
A=>	12:00	JD471	332	Hangzhou
  =>D	11:50	3U8502	332	Chengdu
  =>D	13:10	JD472	332	Hangzhou

Gate 73
A=>	12:42	PR118	773	Manila

Gate 75
A=>	12:12	AC30	773	Beijing

Gate 76
A=>	11:46	UA287	73J	Chicago
  =>D	13:40	UA298	73J	Chicago

Gate 77
A=>	11:57	UA213	320	Houston
  =>D	12:47	UA595	320	San Francisco
A=>	12:51	UA5419	E7W	Los Angeles
  =>D	13:55	UA5547	E7W	Los Angeles

Gate 78
A=>	11:06	UA784	320	San Francisco
  =>D	12:05	UA671	320	Houston
A=>	13:05	UA685	73J	San Francisco
  =>D	14:05	UA887	73J	San Francisco
A=>	14:54	UA2008	73J	Chicago

Gate 79
A=>	13:00	WS23	76W	London Gatwick

Gate 80
A=>	11:14	WS1701	73W	Los Angeles
  =>D	12:45	WS1774	73W	San Francisco
A=>	13:27	UA323	73J	Denver
  =>D	15:00	UA381	73J	Denver

Gate 81
A=>	12:47	AA1264	73H	Dallas Ft Wrth
  =>D	13:20	AA1189	73H	Dallas Ft Wrth
A=>	13:21	AA506	319	Phoenix
  =>D	14:30	AA500	319	Phoenix

Gate 82
  =>D	14:15	AC554	320	Los Angeles

Gate 83
  =>D	11:10	AC1898	319	Las Vegas
  =>D	13:40	WS1726	73H	Palm Springs
A=>	14:29	WS1697	73H	Los Angeles

Gate 84
  =>D	12:05	AC538	319	Anchorage
  =>D	13:40	AC566	320	San Francisco
A=>	14:08	AC563	319	San Francisco
  =>D	14:55	AC534	319	Chicago

Gate 86
  =>D	11:05	WS1754	73W	Orange County
A=>	11:45	DL2916	319	Minneapolis
  =>D	13:00	DL2915	319	Minneapolis
A=>	13:41	AA6063	E75	Los Angeles
  =>D	14:22	AA6063	E75	Los Angeles

Gate 87
  =>D	11:05	AC552	320	Los Angeles
A=>	11:47	DL1805	739	Atlanta
  =>D	13:05	DL2450	739	Atlanta
A=>	14:01	AC8115	CR9	San Jose
  =>D	14:40	AC8110	CR9	Denver

Gate 88
A=>	12:20	DL2929	319	Los Angeles
  =>D	14:02	DL2928	319	Los Angeles
A=>	14:31	DL5818	E75	Seattle

Gate 90
  =>D	11:20	DL4821	E75	Seattle
A=>	12:27	DL4684	CR9	Salt Lake City
  =>D	13:07	DL4685	CR9	Salt Lake City
A=>	13:55	AC8229	CR9	Phoenix
  =>D	14:30	AC8114	CR9	San Jose

Gate 92
  =>D	13:10	AC8626	CR9	Dallas Ft Wrth

Gate 93
  =>D	13:10	AC8668	CR9	San Diego

Gate 94
A=>	12:49	AC8092	DH4	Seattle
  =>D	13:30	AC8125	DH4	Portland

Gate 95
A=>	11:31	AC8118	DH4	Portland
  =>D	12:55	AC8097	DH4	Seattle

Gate 96
A=>	13:51	AS2242	DH4	Seattle
  =>D	14:31	AS2267	DH4	Seattle

Unassigned
  =>D	11:58	AS702	73J	Seattle
A=>	13:53	AC8888	CR9	Whitehorse

Note: the list is sorted by scheduled time, but all time shown are estimated time... so they may not seems to be in order...

Where do you get this from?

Gordon · #**11617** Posted **Jun 9, 2017, 10:00 PM**

We Still have AC Boston & HK airlines ro start prior to the end of the month.

nname · #**11618** Posted **Jun 9, 2017, 10:17 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by osirisboy

Where do you get this from?

Raw data from here, then my own script to parse it.

jollyburger · #**11619** Posted **Jun 10, 2017, 12:20 AM**

Is there any rule of thumb on how to know which direction planes arriving and departing YVR come in?

casper · #**11620** Posted **Jun 10, 2017, 1:37 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cage

Appears the YVRAA might need the services of a call to gate system. I know of a Canadian airport that over bought technology and might be looking for a new forever home for CtG.

There must be an old hanger at YYC somewhere where the CtG technology can be put into storage. Once in storage it quickly be forgotten until it is old enough to be tossed out.