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Wpg_Guy · #**1141** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 6:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Any word on a new parkade?

Probably not until they unload Portage Place, pure speculation though.

pspeid · #**1142** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 7:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by EdwardTH

But obviously the Forks is dying because rrskylar said so right?

LOL! How true! I was told by a near-60 year old friend that The Forks was "passé" now that they didn't have a "nice sit-down restaurant" to go to. I love seeing nay-sayers proved wrong.

bomberjet · #**1143** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 7:25 PM**

Did the forks ever have a nice sit down restaurant?

DonaldSmith · #**1144** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 7:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Did the forks ever have a nice sit down restaurant?

https://globalnews.ca/news/3957275/s...fter-14-years/

esquire · #**1145** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 7:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Did the forks ever have a nice sit down restaurant?

Sydney's was one of the best in town.

Also, I can't vouch for Passero because I haven't eaten there, but it looks pretty nice. I understand that it's a place for tapas though, so casual and not fine dining.

bomberjet · #**1146** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 7:42 PM**

Right. I'd never actually been there.

I was thinking Muddy Waters, Beachcombers, the place upstairs in Johnston terminal.

optimusREIM · #**1147** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 7:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Sydney's was one of the best in town.

Also, I can't vouch for Passero because I haven't eaten there, but it looks pretty nice. I understand that it's a place for tapas though, so casual and not fine dining.

Sydney's is dead?

esquire · #**1148** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 8:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Sydney's is dead?

Yep

optimusREIM · #**1149** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 9:14 PM**

How long ago? Must not have been paying close enough attention

borkborkbork · #**1150** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 9:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Sydney's was one of the best in town.

Also, I can't vouch for Passero because I haven't eaten there, but it looks pretty nice. I understand that it's a place for tapas though, so casual and not fine dining.

I don't think it's best described as 'casual'. Their lunch counter menu is cheap, but their dinner menu is all $15-20 small plates. Last time we went with another couple I think we spent nearly $300 after tip and tax (including wine).

GreyGarden · #**1151** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 11:06 PM**

I would consider Passero to be fine dining (in the modern sense) or at least upscale. At least my understanding of things is that "fine dining" has gotten a lot more casual in the past 10 years. I'm wondering if the trend will eventually swing back towards white table cloths and servers with bowties... Sorry, not trying to derail the thread, probably a better discussion for the restaurant thread.

Wigglez · #**1152** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 11:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by EspionNoir

Are you wishing this project fail? It’s so weird the way you are asking it

In a world where asking questions is considered a negative thing...

EspionNoir · #**1153** Posted **Apr 5, 2019, 12:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Wigglez

In a world where asking questions is considered a negative thing...

Yeah sorry...

esquire · #**1154** Posted **Apr 5, 2019, 3:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by GreyGarden

I would consider Passero to be fine dining (in the modern sense) or at least upscale. At least my understanding of things is that "fine dining" has gotten a lot more casual in the past 10 years. I'm wondering if the trend will eventually swing back towards white table cloths and servers with bowties... Sorry, not trying to derail the thread, probably a better discussion for the restaurant thread.

Pricy and upscale yes, good probably (based on reputation, as I've never been). But unless I'm misunderstanding things, I didn't think a tapas place constitutes fine dining as it is generally known.

buzzg · #**1155** Posted **Apr 5, 2019, 12:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Ah right, the parking lot is the hold-up. They need it for staging and to offset the loss of parking from Railside.

Any word on a new parkade?

No plans for a new parkade until around 4–7 years from now, based on demand. Some of the Railside developments will offer a bit of parking. The plan is for the next parkade to go on the parking lot immediately north of Union Station, with ground floor (or more) retail, and most likely attaching into Union Station.

Environment Canada will be moving their mailroom from the main floor of Union Station in the next 2 years, which will allow TFNP to move their lobby and boardroom out of the atrium walkway there, and open that up as public space that would likely connect through said new parkade to York. That was the initial plan for the new TFNP offices, which is why (if you've been there), the boardroom and reception desk are all "floating" and nothing was actually built in.

This freed up space will be critical for eventually (hopefully) using Union Station as an RT hub.

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How long ago? Must not have been paying close enough attention

At least a year. The space is being gutted and will be opened up as more rentable space, similar to the other side.

esquire · #**1156** Posted **Apr 5, 2019, 1:00 PM**

^ Interesting that the parkade would go north of Union Station... seems a bit isolated relative to where the demand around there is for parking. Wouldn't it make more sense to put a parkade east of the tracks, and use that site north of the station for some kind of commercial/residential development?

wags_in_the_peg · #**1157** Posted **Apr 5, 2019, 1:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Did the forks ever have a nice sit down restaurant?

depends what definition of nice is. There's 2 great family restaurants, Old Spag Factory and Pancake house, they both serve a purpose. DO i frequent them, Yes 2x's a year with grandparents and kids. But Pasero is a place to go without kids, fantastic place. And The Commons restaurants are NOT fast food, many of them have great meals. Variety is key!

buzzg · #**1158** Posted **Apr 5, 2019, 1:42 PM**

They don't want to use up prime land right in The Forks for more parkades, when there's a ton available on Main Street. Also you can build way taller on Main, so hypothetically a new 5-6 storey parkade could have a 20 storey tower on top of it if there was a market. Putting a new parkade in The Forks proper would mean all those cars still have to drive into The Forks. Having it on Main means much better access and ingress/egress, especially during special events or busy seasons (which are starting to become all the time).

The whole idea here is to have minimal parking "on site" in the prime land. Build it on Main, and people can walk in to The Forks, through many different ways – one being through Union Station. Once Railside South is developed, parking on Main and walking in won't feel so "far" and onerous, because you'll be walking into the heart of an active, human-scale neighbourhood, as opposed to walking through a sea of windswept parking lots.

wags_in_the_peg · #**1159** Posted **Apr 5, 2019, 1:42 PM**

that parking lot north of train station has at least dozen or more Environment Canada vehicles that don't move. 2-3 feet on them for days on end this past winter

pspeid · #**1160** Posted **Apr 5, 2019, 1:44 PM**

Amazon Opens First Space in Winnpeg-Abigail Turner, April 5, 2019

This just posted today on the Global Winnipeg website:

https://globalnews.ca/news/5132622/a...e-in-winnipeg/

Looks like another nice tech boost for the city. Could this add some urgency to start the residential space at The Forks? I would imagine the people working here might like to live close as well?