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Old Posted Aug 2, 2007, 2:58 PM
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That's unfortunate to see another parking garage in downtown. This creates NOTHING to city life. Nobody says "hey, check out that parking garage building". I hate walking around downtown and seeing former buildings made into parking garages.
     
     
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^ I'm not a big fan of adding too much parking either. But in this case, I think it's necessary. Parking is horrible in the OBD. And with Medallion getting under way, it's only going to get worse.

And anyway, a parking structure is better than a surface lot. Especially, a parking structure that will soon have retail along its streetwall.
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2007, 5:26 PM
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^Agreed. If parking is going to happen, this is the best way to have it. Besides, that building was nothing special to begin with. Might as well put it to good use.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2007, 5:29 PM
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^^ Where is the "former MTA building" located? Is it the one adjacent to the current parking for the OBD that will be used by Rowan/El Dorado residents?
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2007, 6:07 PM
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We need to open up more street parking! Our "anti-gridlock" zone translates into "anti-pedestrian" zones. We use our roads as freeways, that's horrible. Does any other city have this ridiculous "anti-gridlock" zones? It's nice to see people park on the street (hey, a street pedestrian and not a person hidden in the parking garage) like in NY, SF, etc...
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2007, 6:16 PM
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^ I agree with you there. Frankly I'd like to see metered parking on Main Street 24-hours a day. This would slow the flow of traffic a bit through this neighborhood (which is trying to be pedestrian-oriented). This would also help businesses, allowing people to get to places like Metropolis Books after 3pm.
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I don't understand why everyone is always getting down on parking structures being put up. Downtown is not yet an island onto itself, where those on the island don't ever have any needs to get off because everything they need is there. Realistically people who live downtown still have friends and needs outside of downtown that they need cars to get to, how else are they going to get to lets say Santa Monica to go have drinks with friends, or get anywhere else around this huge city that they just might need to go to, that is not served by our metro system.

What providing a lot of housing without adequate parking is going to do, is leave a lot of unsold units, and pissed of residents who have to wake up every morning at 6am to move their cars off the street. In addition, if there is no parking around where you live, where the hell do you have guests park when they come over to visit. People will end up living in these great lofts, but be lonely as hell because none of their friends will want to have to pay 5 or 10 dollars to park in a lot every time they want to drop by.

I understand the argument that parking structures aren't great to look at, but lets be realistic we live in LA, parking is an absolute necessity. Don't get me wrong I would love to see this fact about LA change, but I highly doubt it will, any time soon if the transportation tax stealing Republican assholes in our state government have anything to do with it. Besides if parking structure is designed well, with retail on the ground floor etc., they are a whole lot better than a surface parking lot with a fence around it, of which there are many around downtown.

There is an upside to lots of parking structures, it makes visiting, shopping, and hanging out in downtown convenient. Think about the hundreds of thousands of cars that drive right by downtown everyday, on the 10, 110, 5, and the 60, and imagine if just a fraction of those cars got off the freeway and patronized businesses in downtown. The lack of retail, restaurants, and street life would instantly disappear. It is unrealistic to think that the new residents moving to downtown, will be able to support all the retail needed for a healthy street life, without the help of outside patrons. I work on Alvarado and 3rd, and have so many times wanted to go downtown for a quick lunch, or get a coffee from Coffee Bean or whatever, but decide not to because that means either I have to hunt for parking for fifteen minutes, or pay 5 or 7 bucks to park my car to run into a store and buy an item that costs less than what it costs to park.

What downtown needs is some city built and run parking structures, like what the city of Pasadena did for Old Town (those parking structures by the way are no eye-sore, with the retail on the ground floor, and brick built design). Go to Old Town on a Saturday afternoon and those parking structures are completely full, but more importantly Colorado St is full of pedestrians and street life. The most convenient thing about Pasadena’s structures is that there is no flat rate, and the first 90 minutes is free, which makes it a hell of a lot more convenient to lets say grab some frozen yogurt with your girlfriend, or stop by the apple store for half an hour. The structures in downtown would need to be placed in strategic locations like around 7th St, to help with the hopefully future restaurant row. Also around Broadway would be very important so that the Historic theatres can be easily accessed.

The argument is that the traffic downtown will become terrible if to many cars are coming down there. Firstly, downtown was built and designed for a high occupancy of vehicles, with its wide one-way streets, and numerous outlet options onto different freeways. Secondly, even if the traffic gets bad, who cares, if people choose to drive, so be it. If you don't want to sit in the traffic, then take the metro or better yet, move downtown and walk. It’s all about having options.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2007, 11:23 PM
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^ Well said. Culver City and Beverly Hills - both with areas that have great pedestrian activity - support them very well with city-run parking structures that are affordable (Culver City more than BH). Downtown could benefit from taking a few notes...
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So...we don't want parking structures like San Francisco or New York where in the CITY you have to pay $20/day? Why does LA have to be treated like a massive suburb w/ an inexpensive parking? It says, LA is in league w/ the major cities. Yes, our transportation system is not on par, but once you stop these auto-friendly policies (i.e. cheap parking, 1 way streets, etc...) you get people who have to adjust if they want to get where they are going. People will then consider buses & trains to get around, thus increasing public transit necessity. The basic problem in LA is that we have made driving ridiculously, overabundant, and damn too convenient. By far, we have the greatest freeway system in the world (hands down). It's tough for metro to compete. Heck, we setup a bus only lane on the I-10 and people complained, and now we have carpool lanes instead. Same as the Harbor Subdivision. They were NOT meant for cars, but b/c we offer this free parking and limited public transit, we make the car too ridiculously convenient. By adding a new parking garage in the OBD will make people from South Park think about their cars first and buses second. Imagine if DASH came out and said "we will increase service to midnight" and that's b/c you have limited avialability of parking. <-- fantastic. BTW...who wants to drive when they want to go out for drinks? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having fun?
     
     
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^ Who will pick up their date in a city bus? Who will carry groceries home on a city bus? Who will get up an hour earlier to take a city bus to work? I personally walk all over downtown L.A. myself but I definitely use my car alot.
     
     
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^^ Where is the "former MTA building" located? Is it the one adjacent to the current parking for the OBD that will be used by Rowan/El Dorado residents?
425 S Main St.

It's the primary parking facility for residence in the San Fernando, Hellman, and Continental buildings.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2007, 1:27 AM
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^ Who will pick up their date in a city bus? Who will carry groceries home on a city bus? Who will get up an hour earlier to take a city bus to work? I personally walk all over downtown L.A. myself but I definitely use my car alot.
I would definitely carry groceries home on a trolley, but I suppose that makes me somewhat of a transit snob.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2007, 5:57 AM
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I have a question about the removal of the asphalt in that one particular section of the parking lot at the future Medallion site.
Was it done to take soil samples of the ground, and to test and see if there's anything toxic in it?

Is that something that's done before, during or at all?

Just curious.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2007, 6:36 AM
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^Soil samples and EIRs are done before building permits and entitlements are granted.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2007, 7:42 AM
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425 S Main St.

It's the primary parking facility for residence in the San Fernando, Hellman, and Continental buildings.
Thanks, I didn't know it was the former MTA building. I hope they do something artistic to the facade of the building facing Main St. I heard that they were going to project images onto it as a possibility?
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Thanks, I didn't know it was the former MTA building. I hope they do something artistic to the facade of the building facing Main St. I heard that they were going to project images onto it as a possibility?
Electroland should get involved.
     
     
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I heard that they were going to project images onto it as a possibility?
I saw them do that during the last Artwalk!
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2007, 4:42 PM
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Tower Theater Renovation

From Live & Play Downtown LA Blog (Aug 2, 2007):

It was very exciting to see The Tower Theater sign flick back to life -- welcome back!

The Tower Theater in historic core district of downtown LA is being restored. I'll post some pictures this weekend. Last night the power washer was out bringing the treasure back to it's original glory. A few weeks ago some major graffiti was removed from the stained glass windows.

Some friends say that it was purchased by the family that owns the Los Angeles, Palace and State theaters. Sources at the Chapman flats say that retail tenants are being replaced by higher end ones but the new line up has not yet been announced.

Possibly The Tower Theater will be a first run movie theater or house a theater company. Look for some more changes to occur in the next 60 days.

http://www.towertheaterla.com/



Photos by: Live & Play Downtown LA Blog
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2007, 8:13 PM
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I have a question about the removal of the asphalt in that one particular section of the parking lot at the future Medallion site.
Was it done to take soil samples of the ground, and to test and see if there's anything toxic in it?
That's not the type of question I hoped you'd be asking right now. I was hoping it would be more like "I came back from work today & noticed most of the parking lot has been torn out & carted away. How did they get that done so fast!?"

Good to see the small parking attendant's booth rolled to the north side of the block. But if nothing else has happened since then, then the Medallion proj really is becoming a series of delays within delays, within delays.

     
     
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Some friends say that it was purchased by the family that owns the Los Angeles, Palace and State theaters. Sources at the Chapman flats say that retail tenants are being replaced by higher end ones but the new line up has not yet been announced.

Possibly The Tower Theater will be a first run movie theater or house a theater company. Look for some more changes to occur in the next 60 days.
I'm very surprised to hear that.

I was in the Tower about three years ago, and it was my understanding that the Tower Theater was pretty badly damaged. I remember someone saying that at some point one of its owners poured concrete over the seating area (actually over the seats), because he wanted to make a flat surface for use as a dancehall.
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