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NYguy · #**11501** Posted **Dec 13, 2010, 2:45 PM**

Still getting a feel for the glass in different environments..

Views from the Discovery cam today...

NewNYCdowntown23 · #**11502** Posted **Dec 13, 2010, 3:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

Still getting a feel for the glass in different environments..

Views from the Discovery cam today...

Could someone please provide a link for the "Discovery Cam?"

I went to the site on Saturday night...I was so impressed with the pace!
Does anyone know the name of the building that is rising just Northeast of WTC 7 (where West Broadway and Greenwich Street fork)

JACKinBeantown · #**11503** Posted **Dec 13, 2010, 3:39 PM**

There ya go.
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/the-risi...-pictures.html

NYguy... are those images from a high res cam or did you blow them up in Photoshop?

NewNYCdowntown23 · #**11504** Posted **Dec 13, 2010, 4:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by JACKinNYC

There ya go.
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/the-risi...-pictures.html

NYguy... are those images from a high res cam or did you blow them up in Photoshop?

THANK YOU!!!

RoldanTTLB · #**11505** Posted **Dec 13, 2010, 7:52 PM**

That's the new Fiterman Hall. It used to have a thread here somewhere, but maybe it's been abandoned. In any event, it doesn't have much to rise (it's only going to be 13 or 14 stories and they're doing the 11th and 12th floors right now).

hunser · #**11506** Posted **Dec 13, 2010, 8:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by RoldanTTLB

That's the new Fiterman Hall. It used to have a thread here somewhere, but maybe it's been abandoned. In any event, it doesn't have much to rise (it's only going to be 13 or 14 stories and they're doing the 11th and 12th floors right now).

yeah 14 floors, there you go: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=fiterman+hall

STR · #**11507** Posted **Dec 13, 2010, 9:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Traynor

Someone over at SSC had their thinking cap on. A poster named Swiddle had a thought as to why the 20th floor has every other window installed.

It is his theory that it is to facilitate the lifting devices for the future installation of the base cladding. It makes sense:

There are no actual floors near the outer structure of the base from which workers or machines could safely install the panels. So in the future (sometime in early 2012 according to some posters on here) when the base cladding is installed, they will stage from the 20th floor and raise the panels from lifts protruding from the spaces in the cladding on the 20th floor. Then workers suspended on staging platforms (also supported from the openings on the 20th floor) could work in tandem with climbers on the steel, to install each prismatic panel.

Just a theory.

Ehh...I don't think so. Nearest I can tell, the prismatic glass is bolted with its back plate, which is in turn bolted to the beams that are already installed. As such, the base pieces could easily be installed in combined glass and backing units.

It really doesn't make any sense to delay finishing a floor for a whole year for something that could easily be worked out beforehand.

Traynor · #**11508** Posted **Dec 13, 2010, 9:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by STR

Ehh...I don't think so. Nearest I can tell, the prismatic glass is bolted with its back plate, which is in turn bolted to the beams that are already installed. As such, the base pieces could easily be installed in combined glass and backing units.

It really doesn't make any sense to delay finishing a floor for a whole year for something that could easily be worked out beforehand.

But how do you lift the panels into place? Surely not with the tower cranes 85 floors above? I don't think a scissor lift can reach 185 feet either. A mobile truck-mounted crane on the ground would be hopelessly in they way all the time and ungainly to move around the base.

A simple lifting hoist that rolls around on dollies, on an unfinished 20th floor, with it's head poking out one of these openings, would work fine. They send the cable down to the ground, attach a panel and winch it up to the level where the installers are working. Seems to be an elegant solution to me.

The base is to be left open to the elements for another year, so why not the 20th floor?

I said it was just a theory.

Onn · #**11509** Posted **Dec 13, 2010, 9:29 PM**

Morrongiello

uakoops · #**11510** Posted **Dec 13, 2010, 10:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Traynor

But how do you lift the panels into place? Surely not with the tower cranes 85 floors above? I don't think a scissor lift can reach 185 feet either. A mobile truck-mounted crane on the ground would be hopelessly in they way all the time and ungainly to move around the base.

A simple lifting hoist that rolls around on dollies, on an unfinished 20th floor, with it's head poking out one of these openings, would work fine. They send the cable down to the ground, attach a panel and winch it up to the level where the installers are working. Seems to be an elegant solution to me.

The base is to be left open to the elements for another year, so why not the 20th floor?

I said it was just a theory.

From some of the pictures posted above it can be seen that they are doing exactly that to suspend the scaffolding they are using now to install the brackets for the base cladding. At the pace they are working it will take them many months to finish (they have been working on it since the summer and have barely finished one side).

Obey · #**11511** Posted **Dec 13, 2010, 10:50 PM**

They are really speeding it up with the floors.

2-TOWERS · #**11512** Posted **Dec 13, 2010, 11:34 PM**

I made 3 trips down there amazingly in the week I was there alot of progress has been made , especially with the cladding. My pics will be out dated by the time I post them but they are good pics. Alot of zooms