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Old Posted Apr 29, 2008, 8:54 PM
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Oh goodness. I do believe that library has been lambasted by a majority of arch critics and chicagoans hate it...
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2008, 9:21 PM
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^ Going along the concept of having diversity in design and style in the same complex like the proposed BLVD6200 and even Rancho Cuchamonga's Victoria Gardens, I like how this section "doesn't match" the rest of the Hollywood/Highland complex. Again, it gives that side of the building a "weathered" look which makes the place feel more established.

In fact, this very same concept could have been applied to LA Live. We've been getting a bunch of complaints on this forum that LA Live looks TOO similar to Staples Center. Imagine the proposed REGAL cinema designed and built to look like an authentic classical theater? That's not impossible. Look at Downtown Chicago's public library - built in 1991.


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I had to look up pictures of Victoria Gardens as I've never been there; I know what you're saying about a mix of architectural styles, but I assume Victoria Gardens was designed that way for the same reason the soon-to-be-opened Americana at Brand in Glendale was designed, to give an ersatz "sense of place" (but in that Caruso/Grove way, of course, in the case of the Glendale project).

I like the weathered old look of that section of Hollywood/Highland, but I just don't think it matches the rest of the complex because, well, it doesn't. The rest of the place looks the way it does, and then that side of the complex was given that whole other look; it makes me wonder if it's in anticipation of something that might be built next to it, maybe somehow it'll fit in contextually once that future project is completed, I don't know.

That Chicago public library pic, the fact that it was built in 1991 kinda says it all to me, that was at the height (and beginning decline) of the post-modern trend. I noticed with some post-modern architecture, these revival styles sometimes come off as kitschy. But I like that the library has elements of older Chicago architecture. Though I'm no architect, and tastes in styles are totally subjective, I like the idea of historical context as well as architectural context. A neoclassical-style Regal Cinemas adjacent to Nokia Theatre and Staples would look horribly out of place IMO. I agree that the LA Live complex right now looks too much like the Staples Center, which IMO is mediocre architecture anyway. I'd rather they designed the complex to recall the scores of old apartment buildings they tore down to build that whole Staples/LA Live area... or something completely innovative and cutting-edge, hehe!
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2008, 9:36 PM
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What it all boils down to in the end when it comes to this whole Hollywood/Highland thing is that having a few buildings that stand out as being different from the rest of complex is a good thing in this specific case. I agree that it doesn't match with the rest of complex, but I want to stress that in this case, that's a good thing. The weathered look of the buildings give that side of the complex a more established vibe that would not be possible if they had only used stucco.
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I think it's still a little too early to judge it. The H&H site refers to this area as "Orange Court" (which I always thought referred to the bus zone below it). The premises on the North and South sides have a location number 205 - "Orange" and it is listed as "coming soon". I guess we shall just wait and see what it turns out to be. Maybe it's a new night club?


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How did the hollywood terrace hotel addition turn out?

this pic is from fridayinla and was takes in july:


Walked up Highland today. Took a pic of that "thing" they built. Gotta say, it's a building only the original architect could love

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I would have thought it a creative use of a delivery dock for the backside of the mall if it was intended to be used for filming. And I would have been OK if looked different then the rest of the mall. But to fake an old and weathered look, well, you're just begging for an "edluva" smack-down and it ain't gonna be pretty!

I'm getting outta the way....
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^ I walked by the place and it actually really just looks weathered. It definitely doesn't look "fake" or contrived. Let's give this issue a rest. I like it, end of story.
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Pailhouse at Hollywood & Vine got sooooo lucky with the fire today. Check out kcal.com for some good video footage.
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Vodila:

Thanks for all the updates of the hood. You brought this thread back to life.

As far as the H&H update... I like the old industrial look over what was there before (the bland yellow wall still visible in some of the pictures). What was there before was a Burger King that quickly went out of buisness and a souvenire shop for the Grauman's Chinese theatre that went out of business shortly thereafter. There is no signage that indicates what is going to fill in the void. The space is too small for a restaurant or bar so I suspect it may be offices ... perhaps for the Madam Tussaud's?
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I was so happy when the ugly Hotel/Hostel was torn down but I must say it actually looked better than this: I do not understand why they chose these colors


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I think the worst part is just how prominent the parking entry and exit are. It takes up half the building,
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You're right about the parking. Also, the fact that it is above ground is disappointing too. One of the things I like about Hollywood is that most of the new developments have contained subterranean parking... unfortunately this one doesn't.
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Is anyone on this forum following the ongoing construction at Children's Hospital Los Angeles (CHLA)? Every time I'm in the area I notice that they're adding to the complex.

Anyone have any details on this?
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Is anyone on this forum following the ongoing construction at Children's Hospital Los Angeles (CHLA)? Every time I'm in the area I notice that they're adding to the complex.

Anyone have any details on this?
Hehe I always referred to Childeren's Hospital (of) Los Angeles as CHOLA.

But yeah, that hospital has always seemed like a perpetual work in progress for the past decade and a half that I started paying attention to it.
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^ There's quite a treasure trove of information on the website of Childrens Hospital Los Angeles.

Here's the Live Webcam.
There's also a 7.5-minute long video on their site.

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A New Hospital Building

Childrens Hospital Los Angeles is building a new, 460,000 square-foot inpatient facility. This New Hospital Building will transform the practice of pediatric medicine, benefiting our patients, families, and hospital caregivers for generations to come. When the New Hospital Building at Childrens Hospital Los Angeles is open in 2010, it will be the finest medical and surgical environment for seriously ill and injured children anywhere in the United States.
How will this building help patient care?
Child-Friendly Setting

* Ceilings will be decorated with cheerful images
* Lighting will be child-friendly
* Each floor will have a different design theme with soft colors for young children
* Chase Place Playrooms will be available on every floor of the hospital
* Gardens will incorporate a playground that is universally accessible to able and disabled children alike
* Semi-private rooms will be available for children who can benefit from social contact, often so important for children with chronic disease

Parents Integrally Involved in Recovery

* Two-thirds of patient rooms will be private so children can recover surrounded by their loved ones
* Patient rooms will incorporate a distinct "family zone" which will include space for parents to stay overnight
* Dining facilities on the ground floor will open onto spacious gardens
* A convenience store will offer healthy refreshments 24 hours a day
* A state-of-the-art Bill and Helen Close and Family Family Resource Center will provide Internet access, multilingual print and video reference materials and referrals to support groups
* Each floor will include a family lounge with spaces for quiet and reflection, as well as family alcoves

Vice President and Chief of Nursing, Mary Dee Hacker, comments on why integrating family members is so important for enhancing care for sick and injured children.
Cutting-Edge Technology & Testing New Treatments & Cures

* Patient rooms will be wired for computer workstations
* Electronic physiological monitoring equipment will provide ongoing tracking of a patient's vital signs that will be downloaded into the patient's electronic record in real time
* The entire facility will incorporate HEPA-filtration
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Scientists at The Saban Research Institute will be able to test new treatments and cures on many of our patients at the bedside

Increased Services Where Our Patients Need Them Most

* Expanded Emergency Department services at a time when many Emergency Departments thoughout Los Angeles County have closed
* Forty percent of beds will be dedicated to critical and acute care
* Increased capacity in our Bone Marrow Transplant and Intensive Care Units, areas that are consistently at capacity
* State-of-the-art imaging facilities

Improved Seismic Performance

Replacing a 40-year old facility, the New Hospital Building will be able to withstand and remain fully operational after a major earthquake, complying with and even surpassing the seismic requirements for hospitals in the state of California.

To discuss making a gift to support the New Hospital Building, please contact:
Melissa Do Vale
Email or call (323) 361-1706

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Steel Topping Off Ceremony



The final beam for the New Hospital Building was lifted into place above the skyline of Los Angeles during a celebration ceremony on March 9, 2008. Painted in the hospital's rainbow colors, the beam was signed by thousands of patients and staff members, topped with an American flag and an evergreen tree to symbolize growth and good luck.
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and this one?



Any renderings/info or new pics of these?

and this one:

If I'm not mistaken, these two show the same project Here's the state of this project today:



Notice that they installed a new light at the intersection.





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Building Boom Gives Hollywood Pause


Construction cranes soar above the landmark corner of Hollywood and Vine. More than a
dozen multimillion-dollar projects have been announced, launched or just completed in
Hollywood that promise new stores, restaurants, apartments and towers of glass and steel.


Some worry that a proliferation of high-end projects will bury the charm of the storied area's golden past.

By Roger Vincent,
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
May 6, 2008

Construction cranes hover over Hollywood as the movie industry's historic home undergoes another sweeping -- and sometimes wrenching -- transformation. More than a dozen multimillion-dollar projects have been announced, launched or just completed that promise new shopping and restaurants, thousands of new apartments and condominiums and towers of glass and steel.

Glitzy clubs dot once-sketchy street corners. Residents swim atop the former Broadway department store at Hollywood and Vine. Construction projects cuddle up to Grauman's Chinese Theatre and are popping up in the shadow of the landmark Capitol Records tower.

The changes can be both impressive and alarming to those who know Hollywood best. Residents and business owners marvel at the improvements around them. Yet they prize the lingering charm of Hollywood's golden past and fear that the place they love is slipping away.

"My worst-case scenario is that it loses the special flavor that is unique to Hollywood," said neighborhood activist Cheryl Holland, who has lived there for almost 20 years. "We want some give and take" with planners and developers, she said. "Our streets are unique because we abut commercial property." But, she added, "this is a very historic neighborhood with streets that are quaint and charming."

The love-hate battle over development that is playing out in neighborhoods all over the Southland and elsewhere is amplified here. Every construction permit faces questions about parking, open space, blocked views, historic preservation and the stress on basic city services. To be sure, some outsiders may dismiss the concerns as grousing by people who don't appreciate how good they have it. After all, this is a neighborhood of growing affluence seeing an explosion of new entertainment venues and luxury housing and hotel rooms that would be the envy of much of Southern California.



Not just a neighborhood

Reinventing Hollywood is a challenge more daunting than most city centers ever face. "It's a place of dreams, a metaphor and not just a neighborhood," said urban expert Joel Garreau. People have so many different visions in their mind of what Hollywood is, he said, "you are going to get incredible culture clash, economic clash and political clash."

Since the days of Cecil B. DeMille, Hollywood has been larger than life and still holds a grip on people's attention and fascination with Southern California. Changes like those underway today come with protest, boosterism, second-guessing, excitement and angst.

With traffic already awful at many hours, fears multiply that congestion will make Hollywood truly unbearable if developers aren't reined in. Parking has become a fractious issue, too, as prices rise at a diminishing number of lots and local leaders debate whether to build more garages.

Between the traffic and parking difficulties, "it's not much longer that we are going to be able to come down there," said Hollywood Hills resident Daniel Savage. "There is a fantastic domino effect that happens when traffic backs up."

For many, it is all a mixed blessing. No one seems to miss the bad old days dating back to the 1960s, when the neighborhood started losing its luster as many prosperous residents decamped L.A.'s urban core for the suburbs. Entertainment industry businesses fled too as teen runaways, drug dealers and prostitutes populated the boulevard and traditional Main Street-style stores gave way to strip joints, tattoo parlors and touristy trinket shops.

The neighborhood's reputation was so bad by the 1980s, recalled honorary Hollywood mayor Johnny Grant in an interview shortly before his death in January, that "it was tough to get people to come accept a star on the Walk of Fame." Grant's boosterism was a source of amusement, he recalled. "The big sport was laughing at me because I kept saying that Hollywood was coming back."

Observers stopped laughing a few years ago as investment exploded in Hollywood. Nearly 5,000 condominiums and apartments have been built or are soon to be underway in the blocks around Hollywood Boulevard and Vine Street, where a glitzy W Hotel is also under construction. Plans have been announced to add 10 stories of office space atop the historic Pantages Theatre to complete the original 1920s design. And nightclubs seem to be opening on every block -- there are, according to police, about 100 establishments in the core entertainment district licensed to sell liquor.

Meanwhile, crime in Hollywood is down 32% from 2003, said Capt. Clayton Farrell of the Los Angeles Police Department. "We don't have the endemic crime problems that Hollywood experienced in the '80s and '90s in spite of an increase in the number of persons coming to Hollywood for entertainment," Farrell said. "The nightclubs bring in alcohol and other issues but also a lot of affluence and people" who patronize other businesses.


With traffic already awful at many hours, fears multiply that congestion will make Holly-
wood truly unbearable if developers aren’t reined in.


'A little tawdry'

In the years after World War II, Hollywood was "a glamorous little town," said writer Milt Larsen, with chic nightclubs, elite restaurants including the Brown Derby and live theater. He enjoyed going from studio to studio to sit in the audiences of radio broadcasts by the likes of Jack Benny, Fanny Brice and Groucho Marx. Magicians still perform to crowds in the legendary Magic Castle that Larsen founded in Hollywood in 1963. But by then, he said, Hollywood Boulevard was "starting to get a little tawdry."

Now it's on the upswing again. In five years, the boulevard "will be a cross between Melrose Avenue and the Third Street Promenade" in Santa Monica, predicted developer Richard Heyman. He is working on a $12.5-million refurbishment of the Art Deco-style former Kress dime store that later became the flagship of racy lingerie seller Frederick's of Hollywood.

When the Kress opens in a few weeks, it will house a nightclub, restaurant, sushi bar, banquet room and rooftop bar. Owner Michael Viscuso also has acquired other property nearby, with plans to add more stores and to build a 15-story hotel-condominium. Viscuso said he had watched Hollywood for almost a decade but "the streets looked pretty rough." Around 2005 he could see change coming and wanted to get in on it. "It's amazing now."

The heady pace of that change -- more than $2 billion worth of development since 2003 with an additional almost $1 billion approved and ready to start -- is unnerving people like Hollywood Hills resident Savage, who is also president of the Hollywood Knolls Community Club homeowners group. "It's all going way too fast for me," said Savage, who fears that growth will overwhelm roads, mass transit and other public services. "I'm not a Luddite," he said. "I generally believe in the free market, but I think someone needs to call a timeout and let the infrastructure catch up."

Pendulum swings

Hollywood has long been known for low rents and as a destination for starving artist types such as actors and musicians as well as home to a large number of immigrants. Losing such residents would reduce some of the "economic diversity" special to Hollywood, says City Planning Commissioner Michael Woo, a former City Council member. "I anticipate more concern about gentrification and people being pushed out."

But there is probably no stopping it. Hollywood is going through a type of dramatic change that is sweeping many of the country's city centers, said analyst Christopher Leinberger of the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank. "What we are dealing with here is the pent-up demand in this country for walkable urban places."

By Leinberger's reckoning, there are two models for real estate development: "walkable urban" and "drivable suburban." After more than 60 years of focusing almost exclusively on the latter, the pendulum is swinging back toward urban living in the United States, and the Los Angeles region is woefully short of neighborhoods where residents can work, shop and entertain themselves on foot, he said. "Great urbanism attracts people," Leinberger said. "Places that do have it are going to have overwhelming demand."


When owner Michael Viscuso opens the Kress — a $12.5-million refurbishment of the Art
Deco-style former Kress dime store — in a few weeks, it will house a nightclub, restau-
rant, sushi bar, banquet room and rooftop bar. Viscuso has assembled other property
nearby with plans to add more stores and build a 15-story hotel-condominium.
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I am yet to see or hear about the red line being overburdened by all of this new development. I also don't see how those surface lots ever really contributed to the neighborhood. Most of these developments are providing garages with much higher capacities. Granted, the streets are definitely congested almost 24 hours a day. That isn't a problem easily solved. Two years ago I took the redline from work in downtown to Hollywood for Halloween and I was very surprised at how packed the trains were. Granted that was a special event, but aside from the Halloween rush, the redline isn't full yet.
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Thanks for posting that article Citywatch. Hollywood certainly is a self contained 24/7 urban center and the subway only adds to the urban feel. I cannot believe how Hollywood has exploded in the last 5 years with new and updated developments. Unfortunately I work in the S.F. Valley so I still have to commute to work every day and, yes, driving in and out of Hollywood is a disaster and will only get worse when all the new residences are completed in the coming years. If you're able to live and work in Hollywood you'd never need a car... except to visit your friends that live all over the rest of the city.
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Historical Note:

Did you know that this was proposed for H&H 10 years ago?


Yorkburry Development LLC Has Proposed a Marriott Hotel for Hollywood, CA

Three developers jockeying for project By Jullian Baily - HOLLYWOOD INDEPENDENT - July 29, 1998



In a scenario that would have been unpredictable 10 years ago, three entities are vying for the right to develop a property in the heart of Hollywood.

The project is the Hollywood Parkade, a Community Redevelopment Agency - conceived plan to establish parking and other consumer elements on a block bounded by Hollywood Boulevard on the north, Hawthorn Avenue on the south, Orange Avenue on the East and Highland Avenue on the west.

After sifting through the responses to a statement of interest the CRA issued last year to tenants and property owners within the project area, the agency has winnowed the field to just three proposals, said Ann Marie Gallant, deputy administrator of economic development for the CRA.

Gallant confirmed that one of the proposals comes from Yorkburry Development LLC, which owns the building located at the southwest corner of Hollywood Boulevard and Highland Avenue. The commercial and residential real estate company has submitted plans to replace a souvenir shop and other retail stores with a 21 -story Marriott hotel, shops and a 2,000-space parking structure.

TrizecHahn Corp. has also thrown its name into the CRA's hat, confirmed Gallant. TrizecHahn has already staked its claim across the street with the Hollywood Highland project, a $35 million entertainment - retail complex being built with the agency's support. This time out, the real estate giant has teamed with Jeff Rouze, senior asset Manager with CUNA Mutual Insurance Co., which owns El Captan, to establish either a combination retail-office development or a retail-hotel development - both with parking on Hawthorn Avenue. Because of on going negotiations, Hawthorn could not reveal the identity of the property owner who submitted the third proposal.

Yorkburry Development LLC has proposed this 21-story Marriott Hotel for the corner of Hollywood Boulevard and Highland Avenue. Gus Sader, managing partner of Hospitality Asset Services, a San Diego based hotel management and consulting Firm which is acting as spokesman for Yorkburry and its principal Mazen Nazzal, said the time is ripe develop in Hollywood.
"Absolutely nothing was redeveloped or done regarding hospitality in the corridor for many years," said Sader, " and now because of the (TrizecHahn) project on the east side of our site and because of our economy and because of no new hotels in that area.. .we believe the time is right with this project."

David Malmuth, senior vice president of development for TrizecHahn agrees. "I think there's a big opportunity for hotel development in Hollywood," he said.

So big, in fact, that there is room enough for both the hotel he is proposing for the Hollywood Parkade and the 171-room expansion of the TrizecHahn - owned Holiday Inn Hollywood across the street. Malmouth explains that the Holiday Inn is being redeveloped as a four-star hotel while the proposed Hollywood Parkade hotel is envisioned as a three-star facility.

The retail component of the Parkade proposal also has synergy with the Hollywood - Highland project, explains Malmuth, a number of "large entertainment-oriented users" have indicated a desire to set up shop at the Hollywood-Highland but were passed over because of the space configurations. These companies could be accommodated in the Hollywood Parkade, he said.

Sader is unconcerned about the competition. "We presented our plans to the CRA [saying] this is our intention and this is what we like to do," he said.

Noting the CRA lost the power of eminent domain earlier this year, he believes that in the long run Yorkburry will be able to go ahead with the plans regardless of the agency's position. "They can be interested in anything but we own it clear and free, it is ours," he said. What's more, Sader points out that Yorkburry is seeking no city funds to build the $85-million hotel/parking development.

Gallant pointed out, however, that the Yorkburry property is located in the redevelopment district, which gives the agency the right to enforce "quality control" over what is built there by administering another level of land-use regulation in addition to the city's standard process.

Furthermore, she said that Yorkburry, which purchased its property in 1985, has been aware of the CRA's plans for the Hollywood Parkade since 1996.

While the CRA's right to eminent domain expired in May, and it has not yet reapplied for that right, the city is not precluded condemning a property to turn it over for public use, such as a parking lot.

According to Gallant, the finalist will be chosen in September, but that person is free to cobble together under components of their plan and any other applicants or entities.

"Once a finalist is selected for negotiations," she said, "it does not preclude that person from going back to the other property owners to say, "I want to do a deal with you."
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