Wpg: Chief Peguis Trail Extension

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Bdog

Good find! Very interesting read.

Edit: I remember where I originally read about the land being too unstable to support the massive yards - in one of Jim Blanchard's Winnipeg History books, "Winnipeg 1912: Diary of a City".

Thanks for the tip... I'll check it out.

[Bdog]

Originally Posted by cllew

Is this what you were thinking of? Its an engineering presentation from 2003 on the jacking up of the silo's and the soil conditions.

http://www.cgs.ca/pdf/110928%20Intro...d%20papers.pdf

And here are pictures of the work being done;

http://www.cgs.ca/pdf/110916%20Skaft..._MINIMIZED.pdf

Yep, that's it. Good find - a lot of interesting pictures in that second document!

[original]

So I heard there was an open house about the extension from Main to McPhillips today. Anyone attend?

I heard some pretty typical things like, more at-grade light intersections along the typical no flyovers, interchanges or any kind of bridges.

[h0twired]

Originally Posted by original

So I heard there was an open house about the extension from Main to McPhillips today. Anyone attend?

I heard some pretty typical things like, more at-grade light intersections along the typical no flyovers, interchanges or any kind of bridges.

What intersections would be required for CPT between Main and McPhillips?

[thebasketballgeek]

Originally Posted by h0twired

What intersections would be required for CPT between Main and McPhillips?

Only ferrier st

[bomberjet]

What about Main and McPhillips themselves? Those are intersections too.

[h0twired]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

What about Main and McPhillips themselves? Those are intersections too.

The at-grade already exists at Main St so the only new intersection would be at McPhillips. Not a big deal IMO.

Given the number of intersections and the amount of traffic down Leila, I am sure many would happily take another intersection at McPhillips to be able to avoid Leila/Partridge and Main.

Ferrier was mentioned but given that it is really only needed to service Armtec, I am sure that there could be other access made to that business without crossing CPT.

[esquire]

If there are going to be any interchanges built on CPT, I'd say it would be best to put one up at Lagimodiere so as to improve two high(ish) speed routes with one such project.

[The Jabroni]

I didn't know there was an open house. Had I known, I could have went.

From what I can tell, it's going to be a simple extension. Not sure how they can incorporate Ferrier St. onto CPT, but the only new intersection would be onto McPhillips. Although the CP Rail Gimli (formerly Riverton) line would be an interesting thing to see if they can flyover it or not, and I'm guessing they may not, since it's not a busy line.

As for interchanges, I think it would make sense if there were diamond interchanges for the long term. Perhaps a flyover diamond interchange on Main St, Henderson Hwy flying over CPT as a diamond interchange, along with Gateway, and an interchange of some sort for CPT and Lagimodiere.

[rypinion]

I haven't seen it yet, but I believe there is a variance application out there to fully develop the area north of Murray between the tracks and McPhillips.

[cheswick]

Sorry for off topic but its in the general vicenity.

Does anyone know the reasoning behind maintaing the name Templeton for seperate streets on either side of McPhillips. Like they are block or more out of line. Why not just use a different name.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by rypinion

I haven't seen it yet, but I believe there is a variance application out there to fully develop the area north of Murray between the tracks and McPhillips.

Slight correction - the area south of Murray, between McPhillips and McGregor.

[Riverman]

That is a big piece of land. What kind of development, residential?

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Riverman

That is a big piece of land. What kind of development, residential?

Commercial/retail, Costco is rumoured to be one of the players involved.

[rypinion]

Originally Posted by Biff

Slight correction - the area south of Murray, between McPhillips and McGregor.

Ah, thanks. I got it second hand from my dad and haven't gone searching for it yet, so I was hoping someone would correct me if I was off.

Strange - I was certain he said the notice he saw had a bunch of housing lots.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by rypinion

Really - McPhillips and McGregor? I can't imagine it'll be long before McGregor to the tracks is filled in as well.

I believe that is industrial land owner by one of the businesses near by.

[Reignman]

Originally Posted by Biff

Slight correction - the area south of Murray, between McPhillips and McGregor.

Awesome. This will bring at least one future signalized intersection to the Chief Peguis extension.

[bomberjet]

So I wonder who got the notice that there was an open house for the west extension. Just put an ad in the Times maybe?

Seems for a project of this stature, there should be something put out to a wider area. Like on the news or Free Press or something. I know many a people in Transcona , or basically east of the river, that would use this route twice daily. Just like I use Bishop twice daily, but would never get a notice about an open house.

Seems like the City is just doing the bare minimum and then saying "Well look we did public consultations. Look, look. We gave you an opportunity, so now you can't complain."

[esquire]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

So I wonder who got the notice that there was an open house for the west extension. Just put an ad in the Times maybe?

Seems for a project of this stature, there should be something put out to a wider area. Like on the news or Free Press or something. I know many a people in Transcona , or basically east of the river, that would use this route twice daily. Just like I use Bishop twice daily, but would never get a notice about an open house.

Seems like the City is just doing the bare minimum and then saying "Well look we did public consultations. Look, look. We gave you an opportunity, so now you can't complain."

The City does a crap job notifying people about projects, zoning changes, open houses and that sort of thing. The media only ever picks up on it if it's something they hope will be controversial, like rapid transit.

By contrast, Edmonton runs a 2-page spread in the paper once a week that tells you exactly what's happening across the city. Why not do the same in the Freep, Sun and Metro? Or even present the info in a similar fashion on the City's website... have a "notices" section that cuts through the information overload on Winnipeg.ca and just tells you about time-sensitive things like zoning changes and open houses over the next two weeks.

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by esquire

The City does a crap job notifying people about projects, zoning changes, open houses and that sort of thing. The media only ever picks up on it if it's something they hope will be controversial, like rapid transit.

By contrast, Edmonton runs a 2-page spread in the paper once a week that tells you exactly what's happening across the city. Why not do the same in the Freep, Sun and Metro? Or even present the info in a similar fashion on the City's website... have a "notices" section that cuts through the information overload on Winnipeg.ca and just tells you about time-sensitive things like zoning changes and open houses over the next two weeks.

That would be amazing. It gets tedious trying to keep on top of open houses and the like when you need to browse every form of media trying to find them.