Looks like the tower crane is coming down at Liberty Sky today. They've dismantled the crew elevator and have cranes on site to pick the tower one apart.
An observation as I drove through downtown today, is that our towers really are short. Too short. 95 state was underwhelmingly too short coming up on State Street. We definitely need some 500 footers.
I'm planning on buying the Zions Bank parking lot at 100 S Main.
I have BIG PLANS. BIG BIG PLANS.
No money. BUT BIG PLANS.
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An observation as I drove through downtown today, is that our towers really are short. Too short. 95 state was underwhelmingly too short coming up on State Street. We definitely need some 500 footers.
Builders plan to convert a shuttered hotel Downtown into hundreds of new micro apartments
A Denver-based team has paired up with a local developer to redevelop the Red Lion Hotel towers and surrounding site near Salt Lake City’s Downtown, the team announced this week.
The development would come in two phases, with a conversion to nearly 200 micro apartments late next year and promises of a mixed-use development soon after.
The parcels between 600 South and 700 South, West Temple and 200 West, amount to five acres of land. The project would be the latest to add hundreds of small apartments into the capital city as it continues an ongoing cycle of adding thousands more housing units in the coming years.
More over at the link -- not grabbing the whole thing because they can use your clicks and such.
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It seems the biggest change for each apartment would be adding some kind of kitchen element -- I don't recall if Red Lion had in-room kitchenettes of any kind.
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This acquisition increases the property by about 50% - so that does indicate the likelihood of a design change - unless they plan to build another building on the other site in addition to the original Moda Luxe.
Well it looks like my second guess was correct. We now have the updated Moda Luxe Plans. The project will now be a 2-phase project.
The Basics:
The first phase will be the original building building with the height adjusted up from 112 feet to 136 feet tall. It will be 10 floors and will still have the originally planned 217 residential units, plus ground floor retail. With the addition of the second property, this allowed the developer to add a midblock pedestrian access between the two proposed structures between 200 East & Edison.
The developer also mentioned design changes to the original due to the State's proposed 9 floor parking garage that will consume much of Edison Street for the 2-floor Liquor Store. I don't know if the developers ever read or saw our prior posts on the subject or they learned from other sources, but I am soooo glad they were able to make at least some adjustments to their plans due to the State's horrid parking plans.
The second phase located on newly acquired property north of original is tentatively proposed as a 16 floor & 203 foot tall tower that will include groundfloor retail, commercial office, residential, and a rooftop pool.
All pending the approval of the newly filed Design Review allowing the additional height above 100' for midblock structures, of course.
Project Description (From Developer):
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We, as representatives of JF Capital, submit this Design Review application in request that the Planning Commission grant additional building height than what is expressly allowed in the D-1 Zone. We feel that our request is justified by the limited amount of additional height requested, along with the context and design of adjacent projects and blocks. The project was previously given approval for an increase in height to 112’.
After receiving approval from the Planning Commission for this project, we progressed toward construction including submitting for and completing the building permit process. However, when the opportunity arose to purchase the adjacent property to the north, we began to look at what would be necessary to develop this (now) first phase of Moda Luxe in such a way that result in a seamless connection to a future Phase 2 on the parcel to the north. Consequently, Phase 1 was slightly redesigned to bring one level of parking out of the ground to avoid groundwater and provide more parking stalls that would be shared with Phase 2 in the future. Additionally, we learned that the State of Utah would be constructing a 9-story parking structure immediately to the west of our planned amenity deck, obstructing views and access to sunlight for future tenants. This redesign also includes moving some amenities to Phase 2 so that tenants have access to sunlight.
With this new plan, we are also able to create a needed east-west pedestrian connection between the two buildings as shown on our ground level site plan and elevations attached. Although our unit count, size, and configuration remain unchanged, this adjustment in the parking location pushes our building higher into the air. The building remains a B1 construction type building, with construction materials consistent with previous approvals and attached to this report.
Our request is that the Planning Commission assigns our project a maximum height of 136’8” measured from grade to the top of the parapet (or as shown on drawings: 134’ from average grade to the top of the parapet, and 129’ from average grade to the top of the building roof). We believe this is justifiable for the following reasons:
- Context: This project is located at 250 S. 200 E., very near the heart of the downtown district. The block is ready for redevelopment and a well-designed project of this size will be a catalytic project for the surrounding area.
- Limited Additional Height: Ours is considered a mid-block project, which the D-1 Zone assigns a maximum height of 100’. In previous approvals, we were granted a height of 112’. We are asking for an additional 24’8” to ensure this project is designed appropriately for future developments on the block.
- Surrounding Heights: The properties on either side of the land we control are considered block corner properties with a 100’ height minimum (our maximum) and a 375’ height maximum. These two block corner properties to the north and south are not proposing tall buildings as anticipated for corners in the D-1 district. In fact a new development just to the north of our project on the corner of 200 E and 200 S was granted a height reduction in order to build lower than the 100’ minimum. Our proposed building height will represent the block height and shadow variation that is described as desired in the purpose of D-1 zone.
- Pedestrian Connection: The D-1 Zone as well as the General Plan emphasize the importance of mid-block connections both for vehicles and pedestrian circulation. While our block has Edison Street running north-south through the block, there is no formalized east-west path. Our project, revised to anticipate Moda Luxe Phase 2, includes a well-designed and functional mid-block, east-west connection. This will be an important amenity not only to our tenants, but to the surrounding properties who have quicker and safer access to Edison Street and the downtown area. Additionally, it is anticipated that our Phase 2 project will provide space for office and retail uses along this pedestrian way to provide activation and mid-block retail.
- Design: We have been working with the city on this project for several years and have come back for minor revisions like this because we care about the quality of our finished product. Our project will reflect on both our team and the city, so we are working to ensure a high-quality project that will complement the downtown and future projects. Granting increased height of this building will not result in a more prominent unattractive building for the neighborhood.
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The last I heard about Big Lots was that it was optioned but the deal didn't happen. But that was in 2019. The site's zoning would encourage most developers to maximize the site with an extruded mass like everything else, which would be awful. The lot is a quarter of a city block and it would be right next to that other atrocity that spans the entire block north to south from 200 S to 300 S.
This morning it was reported that the CCP is putting the word out that Evergrande will be allowed to fail. Prognosticators are saying most of the effects will be felt internally in China. I'm wondering how the Steel price and supply chain problems will affect the towers closest to startup, such as Astra and Worthington?
How is the progress on the Edison House Social Club coming along? Has anyone passed that site lately?
With the addition of the second property, this allowed the developer to add a midblock pedestrian access between the two proposed structures between 200 East & Edison.
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The midblock access and retail on Edison is nice. I find it odd their renderings are showing an impossible sun angle.
I’m also seeing more price increases being emailed to me from vendors I use. Lumber is the only bright spot. I don’t know if I posted this earlier but some suppliers and distribution centers for construction materials normally would sell to the big and little guys have been cutting out the little guys and maintaining there stock for the big contractors, baseboards, siding, garage doors, man doors, etc. inflation and supply chains are here to stay longer then expected. We might see improvements in some areas but getting anything done feels like a joke at the moment. Lots of wasted time sourcing materials and maintaining schedules. My advice would be to hold off a few quarters if you can.
This is kinda bad news for us locals. That resort is already overwhelmed with skiers. Time to buy up property in Eden and Mnt green if it wasn’t already so damn expensive. The long term plans will make it a legit tourist destination for out of town skiers. Good and bad I guess.