Manitoba Highways - Page 56

Wpgstvsouth94 · #**1101** Posted **Dec 7, 2021, 10:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Not on what should be a free-flowing road. To me it's just putting lipstick on a pig and we'll all wish we had just done it right the first time a year after the project is completed. This is a 'temporary' fix and will be with us far far too long. I don't like the proposal one bit, it typifies Manitoba half-assery

Spot on! You don’t put a round about on a national highway system. People tend to get round about and round about interchanges mixed up. What Manitoba is doing is an outright disgrace.

We just need to keep sending emails to the province. Ie : Ron schuler about how bad this is.

Nothing will ever change until we voice our opinions. His email is on the Manitoba website. I’ve sent a couple of emails myself.

Dengler Avenue · #**1102** Posted **Dec 7, 2021, 10:40 PM**

So go for it.
I hope that things may be easier with Pallister out of the way.

esquire · #**1103** Posted **Dec 7, 2021, 11:28 PM**

Enough of this roundabout nonsense. The 1/16 interchange is a no-brainer shovel-ready project that the province should be ready to move on the next time the feds set up an infrastructure fund that would share the costs.

VANRIDERFAN · #**1104** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 12:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Is there any reason to believe that the roundabout will even get built? Part of me thinks that 10 years from now that intersection will look exactly how it does today.

Also, how did a gas station get built so close to the highway? Most roadside businesses are set back, while that Petrocan is right next to the road as though it was an urban street.

It should be able to be moved quite easily. Think if they allowed a superstation there.

It's criminal that Saskatchewan does not have one stop-light on the TCH but Manitoba is saddled with dozens.

Dengler Avenue · #**1105** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 1:05 PM**

Well, Alberta has a couple too.

VANRIDERFAN · #**1106** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 1:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Well, Alberta has a couple too.

Doesn't absolve Manitoba of its responsibility. They could have done one every 5 years starting in the 80's and had all the interchanges done by now.

bomberjet · #**1107** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 2:24 PM**

There are no excuses.

Wpgstvsouth94 · #**1108** Posted **Dec 9, 2021, 1:48 AM**

This needs to be brought to heather stefansons attention now that pallister is gone with the wind. She seems to have a better push for what needs to be done in the province. The sewage plant for one. They have a full drawing board of hwy 1 and 16 interchange on the shelf ready to go. No excuses anymore.

BariasEC · #**1109** Posted **Dec 10, 2021, 6:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by Wpgstvsouth94

This needs to be brought to heather stefansons attention now that pallister is gone with the wind. She seems to have a better push for what needs to be done in the province. The sewage plant for one. They have a full drawing board of hwy 1 and 16 interchange on the shelf ready to go. No excuses anymore.

There’s a survey out regarding the priorities for Budget 2020.
There’s quite a few spots where you can write something in.
I went to town on infrastructure investment and how urgent it is.

https://engagemb.ca/budget-2022?tool..._tool#tool_tab

WildCake · #**1110** Posted **Dec 10, 2021, 4:22 PM**

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/th...575891301.html

Schuler talking about twinning hwy 1 in the Whiteshell. Very weak talk, saying "we can't do anything until we know Ontarios plans". As if Ontario will suddenly shift the highway miles away, and Manitoba does have a short twinned segment right at the border that provides an excellent alignment guide which I would bet is being considered.

To add, all the talk about how the Feds have to help out otherwise it won't ever happen. Drastic change of tune from Pallister days where shutting down federal funding was a side hobby of the government.

bomberjet · #**1111** Posted **Dec 10, 2021, 8:28 PM**

Ontario has exactly a plan of what they're doing. Tieing into the weigh station at the border. The Minister is just some guy elected by the public.

Assume they'll get something formal through proper engineering channels.

If only Schuler would get vaccinated, he could attend such public ceremonies.

Dengler Avenue · #**1112** Posted **Dec 10, 2021, 8:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Ontario has exactly a plan of what they're doing. Tieing into the weigh station at the border. The Minister is just some guy elected by the public.

Assume they'll get something formal through proper engineering channels.

If only Schuler would get vaccinated, he could attend such public ceremonies.

Actually, strictly speaking, tying into the twinned section, though obvious and understandable, is an assumption. The current plan of twinning that 6 km of Highway 17 actually stops short east of the provincial boundary.
It’s also possible to add another set of lanes south of the current EB lanes so that the latter becomes the future WB lanes and turn the current WB lanes into a service road. This way, the inspection station will be only for WB trucks. IIRC, Ontario already has one for the EB trucks.
Having slow (and slowly accelerating) traffic merging from the left isn’t exactly great.

craner · #**1113** Posted **Dec 11, 2021, 8:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Is there any reason to believe that the roundabout will even get built? Part of me thinks that 10 years from now that intersection will look exactly how it does today.

Even if it means waiting a few more years, better to do it right with a grade-separated interchange than building a candy-ass round-about on the TCH. I still can’t believe the round-about idea has made it this far down the road (pardon the pun).

esquire · #**1114** Posted **Dec 11, 2021, 9:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by craner

Even if it means waiting a few more years, better to do it right with a grade-separated interchange than building a candy-ass round-about on the TCH. I still can’t believe the round-about idea has made it this far down the road (pardon the pun).

Agreed.

Dengler Avenue · #**1115** Posted **Dec 11, 2021, 9:18 PM**

I hope that this is only associated with Pallister and will be gone too.

Dengler Avenue · #**1116** Posted **Dec 13, 2021, 6:58 PM**

Can someone get behind the paywall: https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/th...575891301.html

DirectionNorth · #**1117** Posted **Dec 13, 2021, 7:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Can someone get behind the paywall: https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/th...575891301.html

Here you go:

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Falcon Lake four-lane ‘definitely on our radar’: Schuler
By: Jordan Ross
Posted: 2:40 PM CST Thursday, Dec. 9, 2021
Infrastructure Minister Ron Schuler says twinning the Trans-Canada Highway to the Ontario border is a priority for his department, but cooperation from Ottawa and Queen’s Park is a must.

"We’ve been waiting to see what Ontario was going to do," Schuler said Friday by phone.

"Now that they’ve formally made their announcement, what we’re asking for Ontario is to see what their plan is going forward."

On Nov. 19, Ontario Transportation Minister Caroline Mulroney announced her department had signed contracts with two local First Nations who will clear brush and prepare road base for the three-phase twinning of Highway 17 from the Ontario border to the Kenora bypass.

Neither Schuler nor Lac du Bonnet MLA Wayne Ewasko were present for the announcement at the border, which was attended by Provencher MP Ted Falk.

On Nov. 25, a Manitoba government spokesperson said there were no immediate plans to twin the two-lane stretch from Falcon Lake to the Ontario border. Manitoba Infrastructure is busy upgrading the Perimeter Highway, developing a trade and commerce grid, and completing floodproofing projects, the spokesperson explained.

Schuler said that statement didn’t paint the whole picture.

"This is definitely on our radar, it is definitely something we would like to see completed," he said. "Highway 1 should be twinned from sea to shining sea."

Schuler said his department has yet to see a firm timeline or blueprints from Ontario, and doesn’t know whether the highway at the border will be widened to the left or to the right.

"They could shift it over 10 feet, they could shift it over 500 yards," Schuler explained.

Manitoba can’t begin its planning until Ontario shares more information, Schuler said.

Manitoba has about 17 kilometres of highway to twin, compared to Ontario’s 63 kilometres.

Schuler said crews in Ontario have a ton of work ahead of them.

"They have some real serious blasting they’re going to be doing over the next few years."

Schuler said it was too early to know how much the Manitoba project would cost, but said roadwork proceed from west to east and require federal funding.

"We would love to see the federal government weigh in on this one and take some responsibility for Highway number one."

Biff · #**1118** Posted **Dec 13, 2021, 7:11 PM**

^^^
Already done....deleting all my hard work.

Dengler Avenue · #**1119** Posted **Dec 13, 2021, 7:14 PM**

Thanks.
Okay, this confirms what we heard last week.

bomberjet · #**1120** Posted **Dec 13, 2021, 7:19 PM**

I just find the part about 'we can't plan until we know their plan' kind of ridiculous. What have the 2 governments been talking about for the past couple decades on this issue?

So maybe as part of the planning process for the Manitoba side, they can engage the Ontario side on the matter. Like wtf are they waiting for.