Great Canadian Skyline Thread II - Page 56

ZeDgE · #**1101** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 4:35 AM**

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Is that the Richmond night market at the lower right? Kinda looks like it. Awesome pic.

prat · #**1102** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 4:50 AM**

A recent shot of Edmonton:

Source: http://www.peakaerials.com/services/uav-services/

logan5 · #**1103** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 4:56 AM**

The Vancouver pic looks more like Manhatten.

Marshal · #**1104** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 5:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by prat

A recent shot of Edmonton:

Source: http://www.peakaerials.com/services/uav-services/

Interesting shot.

A little bit of suburban Langley in Edmonton's west end? That makes me think, what is that area called, if anything, by locals? I am referring to the area from 109th west to the Groat Rd ravine. It literally is the 'West End,' every bit as much as ours.

Pinion · #**1105** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 6:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by ZeDgE

Is that the Richmond night market at the lower right? Kinda looks like it. Awesome pic.

Yeah it is.

Here's the crowd for the fireworks tonight

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ciudad_del_norte · #**1106** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 3:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Marshal

Interesting shot.

A little bit of suburban Langley in Edmonton's west end? That makes me think, what is that area called, if anything, by locals? I am referring to the area from 109th west to the Groat Rd ravine. It literally is the 'West End,' every bit as much as ours.

100 years ago or so People called itthe west end, but now that term would refer to things deeper west. The neighbourhood is called Oliver and that is what most residents would call it.

Coldrsx · #**1107** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 4:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Marshal

Interesting shot.

A little bit of suburban Langley in Edmonton's west end? That makes me think, what is that area called, if anything, by locals? I am referring to the area from 109th west to the Groat Rd ravine. It literally is the 'West End,' every bit as much as ours.

'Railtown' built on the former CP railyard ^in the 90s. A product of it's time I guess. Oliver runs from there to the ravine west and is a mixture of housing types, but also the highest density ^in Edmonton and possibly AB if I recall.

Nite · #**1108** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 5:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by prat

A recent shot of Edmonton:

Source: http://www.peakaerials.com/services/uav-services/

Edmonton... more like mini mini Manhattan.

Coldrsx · #**1109** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 5:07 PM**

^hahaha... far FAR from, but certainly a much different city than 5-10 yrs ago and some very good density starting to build up in the core.

Another handful of residential towers on some of the vacant lots and the core will be very close to where we all want it to be.

hipster duck · #**1110** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 7:27 PM**

That Edmonton shot is a good example of "first mover disadvantage".

The development in the foreground (early 2000s?) is very suburban in layout and design. If that same plot of land were being developed today, we would have probably had a far superior design, with buildings that come right up to the street and decent retail.

But, of course, in order for an area to become desirable, somebody has to move there first. And, since the first developers can't sell the development for a high price point, and since the city is in no position to demand certain design standards, you get crap getting built in what will, eventually, become some of the most desirable places.

Edmonton is not the only place with this problem. Vancouver built junk like this along the Seawall near the Cambie Bridge in the 1990s - a stone's throw away from what would become Olympic Village and the Olympic Village Canada Line station:

O-tacular · #**1111** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 8:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

'Railtown' built on the former CP railyard ^in the 90s. A product of it's time I guess. Oliver runs from there to the ravine west and is a mixture of housing types, but also the highest density ^in Edmonton and possibly AB if I recall.

I can't see Oliver being denser than the Beltline is. It doesn't feel nearly as large. The Venetian can only house so many...

O-tacular · #**1112** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 8:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by hipster duck

That Edmonton shot is a good example of "first mover disadvantage".

The development in the foreground (early 2000s?) is very suburban in layout and design. If that same plot of land were being developed today, we would have probably had a far superior design, with buildings that come right up to the street and decent retail.

But, of course, in order for an area to become desirable, somebody has to move there first. And, since the first developers can't sell the development for a high price point, and since the city is in no position to demand certain design standards, you get crap getting built in what will, eventually, become some of the most desirable places.

Edmonton is not the only place with this problem. Vancouver built junk like this along the Seawall near the Cambie Bridge in the 1990s - a stone's throw away from what would become Olympic Village and the Olympic Village Canada Line station:

If they ever actually re-develop Eau Claire Market in Calgary it will be the same thing. You have suburban style town homes across the street blocking Prince's island park.

Coldrsx · #**1113** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 8:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

I can't see Oliver being denser than the Beltline is. It doesn't feel nearly as large. The Venetian can only house so many...

Hard to say and would actually like to know.

This is Oliver along Jasper, it terraces down to a lot of 3-4 walkups going north, but lots of density either way.

http://ourparentshome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/aerial-shot.jpg

O-tacular · #**1114** Posted **Jul 24, 2016, 9:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Hard to say and would actually like to know.

This is Oliver along Jasper, it terraces down to a lot of 3-4 walkups going north, but lots of density either way.

http://ourparentshome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/aerial-shot.jpg

Well checking the Wikipedia pages Oliver has just ver 19k residents and Beltline has just shy of 22k. Still closer than I thought.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver,_Edmonton

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltline,_Calgary