Rapid Transit - Page 56

emge · #**1101** Posted **Jun 9, 2009, 9:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by highwater

Just got back from the 4pm presentation. Sorry I'm missing you guys.

Nothing much new if you've been following things and have already seen the survey. Still, it was interesting to see how far ahead (or not, as the case may be) they're thinking is on design, impacts, etc. For example they are already working with the MTO on alternative ramps for the 403 if and when King and Main go back to two-way.

I'm glad I didn't miss much.. I went at the very beginning, but my hubby got off work early, so we both went back so he could do the survey too... but people are coming over for Game 6, so we decided to head home and get ready! I suppose my citizen participation only goes so far... at least today.

It's good to hear that they're already working with the MTO with the highway considerations, etc. highwater - thanks for posting that.

holymoly · #**1102** Posted **Jun 9, 2009, 10:40 PM**

I was hoping to get to it but couldn't take time away from work. I did the survey online, though.

omro · #**1103** Posted **Jun 9, 2009, 11:55 PM**

I went, missed most of the second presentation. Didn't like the idea of cutting off access to the road with the LRT from the side roads she mentioned a few times. Don't quite see how that's necessary. I did get to chat to the lady for a short while and she did point out that nothing had been decided as of yet, these were all mainly just differing options/thinking out loud.

I didn't get time to talk to anyone as my brother and I had to get back for dinner.

highwater · #**1104** Posted **Jun 10, 2009, 12:46 AM**

My impression was side road access would only be cut off with the LRT in the outside lane option. With LRT in the median, side streets would be right turn only.

Jon Dalton · #**1105** Posted **Jun 10, 2009, 1:07 AM**

I ran into Astroblaster and Fairhamilton on the way out. Good to see some others on here showed up. I was there around 6 and it was sparse, but apparently they had a better crowd earlier on.

I used all the space on the comment section of the form to express my support of the 2-way median LRT / 2-way traffic option. The curb lane / one way option would hurt accessability for the benefit of traffic flow, an obvious step in the wrong direction.

I'm also pleasantly surprised with the level of progress the city has made. What impresses me is that they are proposing a fully exclusive right of way system that radically alters vehicle traffic and the way the street is used. This is exactly what a well implemented system will accomplish.

astroblaster · #**1106** Posted **Jun 10, 2009, 2:23 AM**

nice to see to you jon and omro.... i didn't have a ton of time, just wanted to add a body to the count

drpgq · #**1107** Posted **Jun 10, 2009, 2:44 AM**

I was there between five and five thirty. I talked to Jill and it seemed to me that King rather than Main is pretty much locked up and seems unlikely to change.

FairHamilton · #**1108** Posted **Jun 10, 2009, 3:04 AM**

We got there right at 7pm, and ran into Jon Dalton on his way out. We were there after the presentations, and were able to ask a few questions and read the literature on the easels.

Good to be out and put interest towards the process. But did they really need to use a Long Branch TTC streetcar for the literature?

Jon Dalton · #**1109** Posted **Jun 10, 2009, 3:35 AM**

Hahaha. I was really tempted to ask Jill that. Like of all the sexy new light rail vehicles today they have to use the old CLRV on the drawings? Don't get me wrong, I love streetcars in any shape and form, but it is important that people who read this stuff know the difference.

Jon Dalton · #**1110** Posted **Jun 10, 2009, 4:09 AM**

My question was regarding the property acquisition required to make a true ROW along King St., and are there any potential showstoppers that have been identified. The response was that the feasibility study has already identified and addressed them and deemed the proposed alignments to be feasible, all implications duly considered. Jill mentioned specifically the bottleneck at King and Wellington, and the prospect of replacing street parking with intermittent small parking lots that would need to be acquired by the city.

The impression I got was that our hundreds of thousands of dollars being spent on consultants' reports is actually going towards working out the details of how to make this work in the best possible way for the city. I had feared that too much would be squandered trying to prove the obvious and that the truly revolutionary aspects of the system would be suppressed by the sheer inertia of our current single occupancy vehicle bill of rights.

The latest report has shown me that the Rapid Transit office is looking at the big picture. The next big hurdle is getting that big picture across to the other 90% who just need to hit Blockbuster Video on their way home and don't care much about the scenery either way.

drpgq · #**1111** Posted **Jun 30, 2009, 12:35 AM**

Anyone know why they moved that one bus stop to Main between John and Bowen, where previously it had been between John and Hughson? I saw people waiting when I walked by on Sunday and it just looked weird.

SteelTown · #**1112** Posted **Jun 30, 2009, 1:23 AM**

^ That's because the main McNab terminal is closed for renovations and most buses ending at McNab has been permanently relocated to the GO Station.

mic67 · #**1113** Posted **Jun 30, 2009, 1:49 AM**

/////////////////Wtf/////////////////////

Ok Retardness for the next year.

Great if you are going to Toronto.

Mic67

drpgq · #**1114** Posted **Jun 30, 2009, 2:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by SteelTown

^ That's because the main McNab terminal is closed for renovations and most buses ending at McNab has been permanently relocated to the GO Station.

Thanks

SteelTown · #**1115** Posted **Jun 30, 2009, 3:14 AM**

More info here
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...96#post4331996

markbarbera · #**1116** Posted **Jun 30, 2009, 4:06 PM**

I like the new alignment for King, Cannon and Barton. I think this is a permanent rerouting, but perhaps someone can confirm?

The Barton re-route effectively offers a transit option that would link the potential VIA/GO station on the CN track with the Hunter Street GO Centre. Once a station is back on the CN track, the westbound Barton route can be rejigged to head North on John to Murray, west to James, then south on James up to the GO Centre. Eastbound Barton can be rerouted north on John to Murray, east to Mary, south to Barton, then head east on Barton as usual.

SteelTown · #**1117** Posted **Jun 30, 2009, 4:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by SteelTown

Permanent route changes effective June 28, 2009......

Routes 1-King, 2-Barton and 3-Cannon end-of-line be changed from the current MacNab Street Terminal to the Hunter GO Station.

SteelTown · #**1118** Posted **Jul 9, 2009, 11:24 PM**

Metrolinx's new board members have their first meeting on July 13th.

Hamilton Rapid Transit Study is part of Metrolinx Big 5 Projects....

There's 30 agenda items and I don't see the Benefits Case Analysis for the B-Line on the agenda. Perhaps at another meeting or it's buried under the closed sessions.

omro · #**1119** Posted **Jul 10, 2009, 3:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by SteelTown

Metrolinx's new board members have their first meeting on July 13th.

Hamilton Rapid Transit Study is part of Metrolinx Big 5 Projects....

There's 30 agenda items and I don't see the Benefits Case Analysis for the B-Line on the agenda. Perhaps at another meeting or it's buried under the closed sessions.

Looks like a Main Street route has been ruled out based on the above graphic.

SteelTown · #**1120** Posted **Jul 10, 2009, 1:15 PM**

Yea it appears King St has the upper hand.