Mobile Development Thread - Page 56

BamaGrad04 · #**1101** Posted **Feb 29, 2008, 9:55 PM**

Huge news, thanks for the update!

HSVTiger · #**1102** Posted **Feb 29, 2008, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by HSVTiger

Congrats Mobile on the winning the tanker contract

http://blog.al.com/live/2008/02/wsj_reports_northropeads_wins.html

It's a big win for the state
Northrop Grumman's KC-30 Tanker supply base in Alabama will include:

* Engelhard (BASF), Huntsville, Ala. -- Ozone Converter
* GKN-Westland Aero, Tallassee, Ala. -- Wing Panels
* PPG Industries, Huntsville, Ala. -- Windshield & Glass
* EADS NAT, Mobile, Ala. -- A330 Assembly
* Goodrich Aerospace, Foley, Ala. -- Engine Sub-Assemblies
* Northrop Grumman Technical Services, Mobile, Ala. -- Program Support

bump

thoraudio · #**1103** Posted **Feb 29, 2008, 10:01 PM**

good for Mobile, and good for Alabama.

from wsfa.com

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Breaking News: Alabama Wins $40 Billion Manufacturing Contract
Montgomery, Al. (WSFA) -- This is a breaking news alert from WSFA 12 News.

Just moments ago, Governor Bob Riley announced that Mobile, Alabama has been selected as the third place in the world where large Airplanes will be built.

Here's the Governor's official statement:

"There are only two places in the world where large airplanes are built: Seattle, Washington and Toulouse, France. Now, there will be a third: Mobile, Alabama.

"To say this is a great day for Alabama is a monumental understatement. This will go down in history as one of our greatest days.

"This announcement is the fulfillment of a dream that began three years ago, and that dream was to bring high-paying aerospace jobs to Mobile. It was a dream to provide the men and women of our military with the best and most efficient aerial refueling tanker. Those dreams are being fulfilled and they will be made a reality in our state.

"The selection of Northrop Grumman-EADS is the result of extremely hard work by a unified team from the company, the state, the federal government and Mobile. I congratulate everyone involved and thank them for all they've done."

More information on this will be available shortly and on WSFA 12 News at 5 and 6

BamaGrad04 · #**1104** Posted **Feb 29, 2008, 10:09 PM**

Judging by the comments from Seattle, them Boeing folks ain't too happy.....

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/353250_tanker01.html?source=mypi

SouthSky · #**1105** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 12:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by SouthSky

Some things about the upcoming tanker announcement:

Boeing is the runaway favorite. Boeing most likely wins the contract to build these tankers. They have done so much business with the government it would be hard to change it now... (especially with the nature of this order)
Regardless of the winner of the contract, the loser will appeal. EADS most likely WILL get tanker orders with the appeal. The KC30 has more capacity and will lend itself to the government as a better long range, long lasting option. Boeing's option will be less advanced technology-wise but will provide the government and the armed forces with a familiar option. Depending on the selection and appeal process the order for EADS/Airbus will be in flux as the government will inevitably adjust the order in the end.
This is from varying sources and an opinion to which I subscribe: EADS/Airbus is using the freighter plant for the A330 (a totally different beast) as a bargaining chip for the government and a public relations coup for the "storm-ravaged" Gulf Coast. Regardless of the tanker decision and subsequent appeal process, Mobile will see an Airbus plant on site. Airbus is using the addition of a separate contract (contingent on the US government's decision in name only) to sweeten up the deal for the public and thus the government. If Mobile loses all of the tanker contract, we still SHOULD (if all things transpire like what I've been told) get the A330 freighter line in Mobile. P.S. - Even if EADS gets nothing after an appeal, the aforementioned events should transpire.
If all happens like I think it will, Mobile will be the Atlanta of the south in the 90's. GUARANTEED.

Well, I apparently was wrong about Boeing. This is great for Mobile and all its surroundings!

Number four still is correct.

Electrical Porpoise · #**1106** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 12:30 AM**

Mission accomplished and absolutely great for the city. I would also imagine these companies would put some pressure on the University of South Alabama and make the area easier on the eyes, from nicer signs to some vegetation with a nice entrance.

Now lets get working on things that will make everyone happy -- a loop around west Mobile.

MobileLSUboy2005 · #**1107** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 12:44 AM**

yea a loop, AND widen I-65 from Mobile to Saraland, so that every time there is a race at the new track, 65 won't become a dang PARKING LOT!

HSVTiger · #**1108** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 1:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by SouthSky

Well, I apparently was wrong about Boeing. This is great for Mobile and all its surroundings!

Number four still is correct.

Easy player, while it will bring big changes to the Gulf Coast over the next 10 years it won't be an overnight thing. Boeing has 2700 employees in Huntsville
which has happened over many years so it will be a steady growth for Mobile
Comparing any city in Alabama to Atlanta is not realistic.

jrfstone · #**1109** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 1:51 AM**

Electrical Porpoise, what does USA have to do with Brookley besides an outreach campus? Did you mean the Mobile Airport Authority, or something else?

elb401 · #**1110** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 2:11 AM**

I agree with HSVTiger about the Atlanta comment. More like Baton Rouge size. But any aways I don't want to be like Atlanta...just a little to crazy for me. But thats just me...i would still love Mobile.

But the news said once the place is built the effects will happen pretty rapidly. One news company said Airbus wants to put even more production lines here for the global market....not just the American. (I don't know if that is the freighter planes that are promised or others because it sounded plural.)

Also University of South Alabama is already feeling the pressure from these large new companies. The companies want South to provide more educational programs that will benifit their companies to provide workers. South has said that it would partner with the companies. I believe the steal plant is working on a deal to help fund a program either at South or Bishop. Not sure which though.

Exodus · #**1111** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 2:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by Port_of_Bama

Is it true that the water front condo is still in the works for mobile ?!

It is, but it's been delayed due to a death of one of the partners involved in the project.

SouthSky · #**1112** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 2:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by HSVTiger

Easy player, while it will bring big changes to the Gulf Coast over the next 10 years it won't be an overnight thing. Boeing has 2700 employees in Huntsville
which has happened over many years so it will be a steady growth for Mobile
Comparing any city in Alabama to Atlanta is not realistic.

To all of the above responding to the Atlanta comment. I am not relating size, just growth.

SouthSky · #**1113** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 2:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by elb401

I agree with HSVTiger about the Atlanta comment. More like Baton Rouge size. But any aways I don't want to be like Atlanta...just a little to crazy for me. But thats just me...i would still love Mobile.

With ThyssenKrupp, EADS/Airbus, and container terminal construction, Mobile will easily pass Baton Rouge in both city size and metro size. I'm not sure people are fully grasping what will happen in Mobile over the next 10 years.

elb401 · #**1114** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 2:56 AM**

Oh okay.....then I can see it if you are talking about comparing gowth rates...maybe. I do see it as a big deal.

Electrical Porpoise · #**1115** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 2:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by jrfstone

Electrical Porpoise, what does USA have to do with Brookley besides an outreach campus? Did you mean the Mobile Airport Authority, or something else?

Not Brookley itself, but USA owns all the surrounding land so maybe there will finally be some pressure to spruce up the area. Years ago it was beautiful as the historic photos suggest. Now it has roads surrounded by dirt, weeds, and trash that lead to projects.

But your aforementioned companies could certainly help.

pboo74 · #**1116** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 3:10 AM**

Now mobile needs to step up to add numerous of things downtown for these people thats going to be moving here ,restaurants,shopping,aqaurium,zoo,open airmall or an inclosed mall,just an idea of some attractions that could or should come to downtown.Can anyone think of any others please fell free to post,and maybe they can bring these up in the meeting they that will have later on this month about the New Mobile?Also infrastructure a loop/new bridge, light rail/street cars.Please will someone bring these ideas up in the meeting along with other input?

Electrical Porpoise · #**1117** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 3:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by pboo74

now mobile needs to step up to add numerous of things downtown for these people thats going to be moving here ,resturants,shopping,aqaurium,zoo,open air mall orclosed mall,just an idea of some attractions that could or should come to downtown.can anyone think of others please fell free to post and maybe they can bring this up in the meeting they will have later on this month about the New Mobile?

There has been a lot of talk about a mall and shops but developers wont purchase the land until they see how well and consistent the downtown market is. Considering how housing is right now and how Mobile's condos are doing it is promising, but that property is worth a lot of money. And the store owners want to have a good feel for downtown's economy first.

Many developers want to do it right this time, and they are willing to wait on really nice businesses.

Muskavon · #**1118** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 4:39 AM**

Man more awesome news for Mobile. I wonder if access to technical/engineering military types from nearby NW Florida (and Miss. too I guess) for a pool of possibly skilled workers helped in the decision?

bayou15 · #**1119** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 4:45 AM**

Wow great news!!.......NOW WHERE DA HELL IS THAT SECOND BOAT AT

You guys were right on my first hint... Waterstreet landing

The second proposal that might happen, is where many people park on Saturday nights to get sh*t faced

And is where a old landmark used to stand.

The avatar i have of the condo is what is proposed for the spot.(condo/retail/office space). Maybe im wrong and hate to bring this up again, but the Old courthouse land will be a waste of time and money for the city if that park is built. Hell that property is so big , you could put a condo project (like the one in Baton Rouge) and a Mardis Gras park next to it.

Cant wait for the March 11 meeting!!! Im pumped!! WOOOOO!!!

Port_of_Bama · #**1120** Posted **Mar 1, 2008, 4:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by Muskavon

Man more awesome news for Mobile. I wonder if access to technical/engineering military types from nearby NW Florida (and Miss. too I guess) for a pool of possibly skilled workers helped in the decision?

That `s a posibility because the governor of Washington said that she believed that her state has the upper hand because of experience.I also believe that the 3 billion dollar steel plant has something to do with it also becaue the steel will be made I assume right here for the tankers. Mobile has been making history for over 300 years now so whats next Lockhead Martin,may be Boieng because they were looking at Mobile in the first part of this century ? I also believe that Mobile will be getting an automobile plant soon becaue we are the only metro in the state that does not have one. I guess BMW will be eyeing us soon!!!

LoL we do need a second ship if not a larger vessel !!