Princess Auto Stadium | Winnipeg

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by metonymy

Just read an article today about the Vikings potential new stadium. The cost has increased quite a bit, they are now looking at $1 billion. It's just mind boggling. Certainly puts our little project in perspective. And they are just finishing up a brand new stadium for the University of Minnesota football team that far exceeds the Bomber's plan.

It the grand scheme of things, a 30,000 to 45,000 seater isn't very big, but is big relative to the size of Winnipeg and Manitoba. Minneapolis and Minnesota are more than 4 times more populous. What is important is that Winnipeg's new stadium feel as major league as possible. 30,000 is fairly small, but 45,000 really starts feeling like a big time stadium. Design is all important.

Population comparison:

Minneapolis: 3,208,212
Minnesota: 5,220,393

Winnipeg: 694,668
Manitoba: 1,207,959

[1ajs]

winnipeg is 720,000 i thought

edit nm just checked thats the cma i am thinking off

[newflyer]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

winnipeg is 720,000 i thought

edit nm just checked thats the cma i am thinking off

You should be using the Winnipeg Capital Region, as thats a truer population indicator of the city area. ~765,000

I seriously doubt anyone uses the city-proper population of Vancouver: 578,000 people. If they did they would be completely missing the size of the local economy.

All major cities are made up of a region ... and considering city proper populations for much more than local tax base would be misleading.

[newflyer]

This deal should be signed sealed and ready to go in the near future. The fed funding is in place ... and they are working out the finer details.

[viperred88]

I hope not, downtown needs to be a destination spot for all things.

feds can use those moneys in critical infrastructure projects .

[Tower Crane]

Originally Posted by newflyer

This deal should be signed sealed and ready to go in the near future. The fed funding is in place ... and they are working out the finer details.

How much have the Feds confirmed? And do you know what the intended design is?

[viperred88]

if my prayers were answered this stadium won't ever see the light of day at the u of m campus due to the terrible state of the economy.

If that happens the possibility of the winnipeg convention centre merging with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers to build one multi-use facility. The stadium itself would have its playing surface risen above ground by supporting piers with commercial on the groundfloor. There are stadiums and arena built this way and I think Madison square stadium is one of them. This would allow car and pedestrian traffic to drive underneath the stilted structure.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by viperred88

if my prayers were answered this stadium won't ever see the light of day at the u of m campus due to the terrible state of the economy.

If that happens the possibility of the winnipeg convention centre merging with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers to build one multi-use facility. The stadium itself would have its playing surface risen above ground by supporting piers with commercial on the groundfloor. There are stadiums and arena built this way and I think Madison square stadium is one of them. This would allow car and pedestrian traffic to drive underneath the stilted structure.

or get great west life to build a new tower and rebuild a new stadium there

[newflyer]

Originally Posted by viperred88

if my prayers were answered this stadium won't ever see the light of day at the u of m campus due to the terrible state of the economy.

Its as good as a done deal. It will be at the U of M campus... construction will begin in the coming months.

[viperred88]

Here are examples of what an above ground stadium could look like:



http://www.terravisioninc.com/terra.swf

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6832452.html

http://www.london2012.com/venues/olympic-stadium.php

[viperred88]

Originally Posted by newflyer

Its as good as a done deal. It will be at the U of M campus... construction will begin in the coming months.

[newflyer]

I am looking forward to seeing the finalized plans ... the Bombers deserve to have a high quality facility.

Also the interactive Bomber hall of fame will be a nice addition. There are also rumours of a sizable sports bar to enrich the campus life at the stadium.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by viperred88

if my prayers were answered this stadium won't ever see the light of day at the u of m campus due to the terrible state of the economy.

well look at the bright side. Building the stadium will create hundreds of jobs in the construction trades.

[viperred88]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

well look at the bright side. Building the stadium will create hundreds of jobs in the construction trades.

true I might benefit on it one day, though it still doesn't make it right for the future of city and downtown. Its not as if bombers are in dire need of a stadium 'tout de suite'. In this economy we are better off building infrastructure and better equipped industrial zones to make this city grow. In the meantime we can properly plan this thing out but i guess its too late.

[newflyer]

The potencial of the university campus is greatly enhanced with this development. Adding this stadium to the area plus the Smart Park expansion and the desire to add more student housing could make a thriving campus. Throw in some shops and cafes and this could be a very good thing for Fort Garry.

[hexrae]

Obtaining the Southwood Golf & Country club will be a huge boost as well.

[viperred88]

Originally Posted by newflyer

The potencial of the university campus is greatly enhanced with this development. Adding this stadium to the area plus the Smart Park expansion and the desire to add more student housing could make a thriving campus. Throw in some shops and cafes and this could be a very good thing for Fort Garry.

I don't doubt the potential, infact I am ecstatic about how the U of M is growing I just think the scope of this stadium is too big and really not needed there. Sure they can build a newer stadium and fitness gym for the Bisons but smaller would be better.

I know I am in the minority here but I don't care but the Bombers do belong downtown to serve as anchor to revitalize it. If it were downtown I wouldn't mind seeing the Bisons come play downtown. Heck maybe the U of M will get into the football program and create a great intown rivalry.

[1ajs]

the um of m is a mini city

[newflyer]

Originally Posted by viperred88

I know I am in the minority here but I don't care but the Bombers do belong downtown to serve as anchor to revitalize it. If it were downtown I wouldn't mind seeing the Bisons come play downtown. Heck maybe the U of M will get into the football program and create a great intown rivalry.

There was a proposal for the downtown, but it met significant NIMBY resistance and rapidly rising costs, and that was in a decaying former industrial park just north of downtown, anything in a occupied downtown area would be greatly more restrictive.

The university of manitoba offered land for the stadium for the return of use of the stadium and fitness facilities. It would cut costs on many levels and reduces the need for government funds, compared to the other 2 proposed sites.

Any redevelopment of the Convension Centre site would be an overwelming cost under the proposed budget... perhaps by 4 or 5 times.

[viperred88]

The South Point Douglas wasn't well thought out plus if Asper and the city and South Point Douglas all worked together then it would of worked.

With the Convention Centre intent on expanding I would believe the land across the street would be available and plus all the other land around it which don't anything really significant sitting on it other than some lifeless modern office buildings which could be part of the stadium if it was built with mix-use in mind.