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I mean what I said. You can interpret but if you think those 2 look like typical Irish-Americans vs something created to win the hearts and minds of progressive San Francisco regulators, I say you’re smoking too much.
So you have a problem with non "typically Irish" people being inside of the Irish Cultural Center? Or you have a problem with them being in the renderings?

Why?

It might surprise you to learn that that neighborhood isn't even Irish! It's mostly Chinese. Can they go to the Irish Cultural Center without drawing weird comments from people like you? Do thy need your permission?

The point is: who cares what the patrons of the Irish Cultural Center look like.
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So you have a problem with non "typically Irish" people being inside of the Irish Cultural Center? Or you have a problem with them being in the renderings?

Why?

It might surprise you to learn that that neighborhood isn't even Irish! It's mostly Chinese. Can they go to the Irish Cultural Center without drawing weird comments from people like you? Do thy need your permission?

The point is: who cares what the patrons of the Irish Cultural Center look like.
You do evidently. But so did the person supplying the renderings. I just found it funny that the patrons of an "Irish Cultural Center" should be depicted as anything but typically Irish-American and more in keeping with the progressive San Francisco version of "diversity". And that triggered you.

Why they would do that may say something about the project approval process in the city. One must know-tow to the powers and politics that be.
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You do evidently. But so did the person supplying the renderings. I just found it funny that the patrons of an "Irish Cultural Center" should be depicted as anything but typically Irish-American and more in keeping with the progressive San Francisco version of "diversity". And that triggered you.
Tech12 was only responding to your comment. If they were “triggered” it was only caused by your being “triggered” by the people depicted in the rendering.
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Wow ! love the height of the new 50 Main Street ! Hopefully it wont get shortened by the planning commission. It wil look awesome....well until we see the official renderings of this new super tall. it's exciting man! The whole 200 Mission campus project should end up being a vast improvement over whats there now.
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Renderings included in this article.

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S.F’s next big housing battle may be over a huge 400-condo development on the west side
J.K. Dineen
Dec. 20, 2021
Updated: Dec. 20, 2021 3:05 p.m.

Earlier this month, 2700 Sloat Holdings LLC, which bought the 30,000-square-foot site in 2020 for $8.5 million, filed a preliminary project application for what would be by far the tallest and densest housing development San Francisco’s west side has ever seen.

While the site is zoned for 100 feet, the developer plans to use San Francisco’s Home-SF legislation, which allows builders to tack on two extra floors in exchange for agreeing to make 30% of the housing affordable. The 400-unit building would be for-sale condos, meaning that 120 of the homes would be sold at levels that are below market rate.

So far the proposal, a block north of the zoo and two blocks east of the Pacific Ocean, has been welcomed by neighbors with about as much warmth as would-be sunbathers are greeted with on a typical frigid, foggy day at nearby Ocean Beach. During a neighborhood Zoom meeting about the project two weeks ago, residents lambasted the proposal as grossly out of scale with the low-slung vibe of the western Sunset enclave . . . .

The proposal comes as the Sunset District — and the west side, generally — is becoming a new frontier of San Francisco’s housing fights. On the opposite side of the Sunset District from the Sloat Garden site is 2550 Irving St., where the Tenderloin Neighborhood Development Corp. is proposing 90 affordable housing units. Neighbors recently filed a lawsuit seeking to block a seven-story low-income complex there and are instead advocating for a five-and-a-half story alternative.

. . . building 12 stories is the only way the builder will be able to subsidize the affordable units, which she called “the moral imperative in the city right now.”

“It is those Ocean Beach Views on the skyline that will pay for the affordable home-ownership opportunities,” Davis said.

The project would have 9,000 square feet of retail and built with cross-laminated timber, a prefabricated, solid engineered wood panel that is lightweight, strong, yet cheaper and more sustainable than concrete or steel.

The project calls for 56 parking spots, which Davis admitted will likely become a sore point for neighbors, even though the site is on two bus lines and the L-Taraval street car.

“There is a tension between what the planners are OK with in terms of parking and what average people want,” she said. “It is a transit hub, even if it doesn’t feel like it to people living there.”

The project would be next door to the Westerly, a 56-unit, five-story project recently completed. “That was groundbreaking and this is twice as tall and five times as dense,” he said.

The application also comes as the United Irish Cultural Center, one block east of the garden center at 2700 45th Ave., is seeking approval to build a six-story, 125,000-square-foot community center, which would include a pool, gym, restaurant, extensive meeting and classrooms, as well as a museum dedicated to the history and experience of Irish immigrants on the West Coast . . . .

Laura Foote, executive director of YIMBY Action, said the Sloat Garden project would likely become one of the key housing fights in the coming years, especially considering how vehemently some residents have fought the affordable units on Irving.

“We already know for certain it’s going to be something we are going to have to mobilize in support of,” she said.

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Increased Plans Filed For 2700 Sloat Boulevard, Parkside, San Francisco
BY: ANDREW NELSON 5:30 AM ON DECEMBER 19, 2021

Increased plans have been filed for a twelve-story affordable housing development at 2700 Sloat Boulevard in San Francisco’s Parkside neighborhood. Project applications filed under Home-SF request approval for a 400-condominium structure, up from 288 units. Korb + Associates Architects is responsible for the design.

The 125-foot tall structure will yield 361,95o square feet, with 317,000 square feet dedicated to residential use and roughly 9,720 square feet for retail. Parking will be included for 56 vehicles in the 23,000 square foot ground-level garage. Parking will also be included for 200 bicycles.

Of the 400 units proposed to be sold for ownership, there will be 128 studios, 96 one-bedrooms, 131 two-bedrooms, and 45 three-bedrooms. The average unit will span between 350 to 1,080 square feet. 120 of the home will be affordable, and 280 will be market rate. 30% of the units will be affordable, exceeding city requirements to benefit from the affordable housing density bonus. A third of the affordable housing will be for households earning 80% of the Area Median Income (AMI), a third will be for households with 105% AMI, and the rest for 130% AMI households.

Residential amenities will include a children’s play area, storage for bicycles, surfboards, and strollers, an owner’s storage area, and a fitness center. A ground-level courtyard will create over 4,000 square feet of open space, and the rooftop will open up three distinct open spaces totaling 23,000 square feet. 18,800 square feet of private open space will be scattered across the rest of the structure.

The structure will use mass timber, a more environmentally friendly material than steel, and better in coping with tsunamis than concrete . . . .

An estimated timeline for construction has not yet been established, though the project sponsor expects their hearing with the San Francisco Planning Commission for approval by early 2023.

Construction is expected to last between 12 to 18 months from groundbreaking to completion, at an expected cost of $134-150 million.





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Oh, boy. Aaron Peskin must already be at work to block this:

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Telegraph Hill Project Has Been Supersized as Well
December 21, 2021

While Planning’s preliminary review of the preliminary plans for a seven-story, 24-unit building to rise up to 84 feet in height upon the parking garage parcel at 955 Sansome Street, at the base of Telegraph Hill, didn’t raise any major red flags, it did elicit “multiple inquiries from individuals within the immediate neighborhood as well as community groups,” which raised “questions and concerns” as to the proposed development’s “height, impacts to light and air on adjacent sites,” as we foreshadowed earlier this year.

And with the Preliminary Project Application for the 7-story building having been submitted and reviewed, plans for a denser 10-story building have been drawn.

As designed by Handel Architects, the proposed building would rise up to 94 feet in height, not including a 14-foot-tall mechanical penthouse and “terrace lobby,” and yield 57 residential units, with 4 one-bedroom units and 53 twos; 2,500 square feet of ground floor retail space fronting Sansome; rooftop terraces with panoramic Bay Bride views for (the new) residents; and off-street parking for 39 cars, 29 of which would be for residents, with 2 car share spaces and a storage room for 57 bikes.

And as the parcel is only zoned for development up to 84 feet in height and a maximum of 24 units, the project team is planning to invoke San Francisco’s HOME-SF program for the height and density as designed, in exchange for which 14 of the units would need to be offered at below market rates (BMR).

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Oh, boy. Aaron Peskin must already be at work to block this:


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I say just build it.

But yeah, I could see this one having a hard time getting approved. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing those Telegraph Hill residents have just a tad more clout than the Parkside folks.
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Extensive summary from the Chronicle's architecture critic:

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S.F. has a slew of mega housing projects on track for 2022. Here’s what it could mean for the city
J.K. Dineen
Dec. 22, 2021
Updated: Dec. 22, 2021 11:05 a.m.

San Francisco housing development in 2022 will be the year of the mega-project.

Even as smaller projects are stuck in limbo due to market uncertainties and astronomical construction costs, the city’s colossal multi-phased projects like those at Treasure Island, Mission Rock, Pier 70 and Power Station will steam full speed ahead. Streets are being laid out, sidewalks poured, trees planted, streetlights installed and buildings are sprouting from the ground.

Nowhere is this more apparent than Treasure Island, where, after two decades of planning, the first residents will move into new buildings on both the main island as well as the adjacent Yerba Buena Island in 2022.

On Treasure Island Swords to Plowshares and Chinatown Community Development Center will debut the 104-unit Maceo May Apartments late in the year, apartments that will house some formerly homeless veterans. On Yerba Buena Island, Wilson Meany will open The Bristol, a six-story, 124-unit condo project over looking Clipper Cove and the eastern span of the Bay Bridge.

But the creation of a new 8,000-unit neighborhood on the 400-acre island will only accelerate after the first two buildings open. Treasure Island could see work start on as many as 985 units in 2022, including Tidal House, a 20-story apartment tower. A new ferry terminal will open in January offering residents a 5-minute cruise across the bay to the Ferry Building, according to Wilson Meany Partner Chris Meany . . . .

At Mission Rock, across the Lefty O’Doul Bridge from AT&T Park, Tishman Speyer and the San Francisco Giants are rapidly transforming an 11-acre surface parking lot with three new buildings — one residential, one biotech and one slated to be Visa’s new corporate headquarters.

Construction started December of 2020 on the first two buildings, Visa’s corporate headquarters and Building A, a 23-story apartment. That was followed by a life science building on Third Street. In 2022 work will start on a fourth building, a 255-unit apartment complex designed by Studio Gang, as well as the five-acre China Basin Park.

“We are trying to deliver the park and the four buildings as close together as we can,” said Carl Shannon, senior managing director with Tishman Speyer.

All told, work could start on some 3,000 units spread across the city’s mega-projects, often former industrial or military properties that require a multi-phase approach and infrastructure work like streets, sidewalks, parks and utilities. About 1,300 units are expected to be completed as part of these projects in 2022, including about 300 units at 5M — the 4-acre development next to The Chronicle’s newsroom at 901 Mission St. — and 350 apartments that represent the first phase of a project Local 38 Plumbers and Pipefitters is building with Strada Development at 1621 Market St.

Breaking ground will likely include 708 deeply affordable apartments built at three different public housing complexes — 357 at Potrero Hill Annex and Terrace, 183 at Hunters View in Hunters Point, 168 at Sunnydale. At Power Station, a former power plant on Dogpatch waterfront, construction crews are busy restoring the historic 19th century power plant — in 2022 grading will be completed and utilities installed . . . .

But while several of the city’s largest projects keep on trucking, others are stuck in neutral. The redevelopment of Parkmerced, slated for 5,600 apartments, still has not started, more than a decade after it was approved by the Board of Supervisors. Work at Schalge [sic] Lock, on the city’s border with Brisbane, has been delayed due to the pandemic, while the 12,000 unit development at the shipyard and candlestick point has been mostly on hold with the exception of one 77-condo building.

And the future for many smaller projects — that don’t involve public-private partnerships or spread risk out over a decade — is even less certain. Stalled projects include an apartment complex slated for 9th and Mission, a tower approved at Market and Van Ness [One Oak??] and several mixed-use projects in the South of Market.

While Tishman Speyer’s twisty, white Mira condo development near the Embarcadero has done well since it opened last year — it’s 70% sold — Senior Managing Director Carl Shannon said that the math is not working at the moment for a typical housing project.

“Construction costs have gone up a lot, and even though rents have recovered somewhat, the generic market rate project in San Francisco doesn’t make sense today,” said Shannon. “You would need rents to go up or construction costs to go down.”

John Manning, who heads up commercial real estate financing for Avison Young, said there are very few housing developers looking for debt or equity for new San Francisco projects. Part of that is because sites where projects have been approved are clustered in downtown areas like Civic Center, South of Market and the Tenderloin — all neighborhoods that continue to struggle with empty office buildings, vacant storefronts and open air drug dealing.

Neighborhoods that have bounced back more successfully from the pandemic like the Sunset, Haight-Ashbury or the Marina don’t have any approved projects ready to break ground
. . . .

The fact that so many infill projects are not going forward doesn’t bode well for housing production over the next few years.

This year the city is on track to open about 4,500 units, most of which started construction prior to the pandemic. Another estimated 5,800 units are under construction, most of which will wrap up in 2022 or 2023. That is a lot less than the high of 10,000 units that were being built in 2016 or 2017. The data suggests that 2022 and 2023 could be lean years in terms of completions, with less than about 3,000 new units a year, according to city data.

Rudy Gonzalez, secretary treasurer of the San Francisco Building Trades Council, said he is optimistic that some of the big projects will help some of the 1,300 union construction workers who are currently out of work. But he said that the fact that downtown office buildings are still largely empty because of the pandemic is hurting plumbers and pipefitters and electricians who rely on “tenant improvements” in corporate space for about 50% of their work.

“Mission Rock is beautiful. Treasure Island is beautiful,” he said. “But all the (tenant improvement) work generated from the buildings downtown? At the end of the day we are just not seeing downtown come back to life.”

Meanwhile housing development battles continue to rage at city hall. San Francisco Board of Supervisors recently made national news for rejecting over 800 housing units proposed for the Tenderloin and South of Market.

Partly in response to that, Mayor London Breed has introduced a charter amendment that would allow some code-compliant projects to bypass the city’s famously difficult approval process.

“Working people like our nurses, teachers, and even the construction workers who build our homes are suffering because we haven’t built enough housing for decades,” said Breed. “Even with the progress on moving large projects forward, we have to make fundamental changes to how we approve and permit housing in San Francisco so families can afford to stay here.”

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Elegant design here. Excellent proposal. It does include a podium with one of two amenity decks, but at least it's nicely integrated into the design, aka not sheathed parking structure. All parking will be underground.

369 FT | 35 FL
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131 cars | 208 bicycles

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BY: ANDREW NELSON 5:30 AM ON DECEMBER 29, 2021

Beautifully detailed new renderings have been published for the high-rise proposal at 395 3rd Street in SoMa, San Francisco. The mixed-use tower is poised to replace a surface parking lot in the city with retail, public open space, and over five hundred apartments. Henning Larsen Architects, an internationally renowned Danish architecture firm, is responsible for the design.

The architect makes clear the design is inspired by the California Redwood, impossibly tall coniferous trees growing across California and Oregon. The towering trees can rise on average between 250 and 300 feet tall. Amazingly, the proposal for 395 3rd street will be shorter than Hyperion, a California redwood and the tallest tree in the world rising approximately 380 feet above the ground.



The 369-foot tall structure will yield 552,000 square feet with 453,980 square feet for residential use, 4,460 square feet for retail, parking for 208 bicycles, and 71,880 square feet for the four-floor underground garage with a capacity for 131 cars.

Of the 524 apartments, there will be 82 affordable units on-site. Unit sizes will vary with 136 studios, 116 one-bedrooms, and 272 two-bedrooms. Around 143 units will be provided with private balconies or juliette windows. By including affordable housing, the project benefits from the State Density Bonus. The developer is also likely to apply for protection with California Senate Bill 330.



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Henning Larsen is the design architect, with San Francisco-based Gould Evans working as the associate architect.

Embracing the straight lines to highlight the tower’s verticality, and refuting horizontal straight lines elsewhere, the dynamic skyscraper is defined by the “elegant, scalloped building exterior and inset, unitized window bays that create depth by carving away from the building facade,” according to the project design concept.

The facade materials will include concrete/Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete panels toned for a sense of warmth. The design is meant to contrast with the modern glass towers that punctuate the skyline, reflecting the solid materiality of past towers.
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Love it! This one deserves it's own thread in the Proposals section.
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Very classy. Reminds me of the recently proposed new tower in new tower on Bunker Hill in Downtown Los Angeles by LARGE Architecture.

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I have been trying my best to make sure every eligible project (120 ft or taller) in San Francisco has a thread because information posted in this composite thread will be hard to find 6 months from now.

This project at 395 Third St has such a thread: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ight=FRANCISCO

I am going to repost the information posted here about it to that thread so it won't get lost.

But all you need to do when considering posting about a 120 ft or taller project is search for its thread. Use "Advanced Search". Use the search term "SAN FRANCISCO|" and, unless it's actually under construction, narrow the search by highlighting "proposals". This will give you a list of San Francisco proposals with their own threads where you can easily select the one you want to post about.

If you want to put something here to call peoples' attention to the separate thread, post a link.
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Love it! This one deserves it's own thread in the Proposals section.
It has one but people don't check: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ight=FRANCISCO
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