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Old Posted Feb 25, 2023, 2:30 AM
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I don't believe I've seen this render before, nor do I see a thread for the project, but WM Fares has posted their Scot / Joe Howe project on their site.

Directly next to this project, 3485 Joe Howe.

This will be quite the different stretch in a few years. 4-5 projects on the go currently?
There is a third one directly across Scot Street on the site as well. 3485 shown above is currently being used as a lay down area for the “Interchange” project across the street.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2023, 4:17 PM
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Joseph Howe is one of those streets where you can now look at Google streetside from 2009 (as far back as data is available for this area) and it almost looks like a different place. This effect will only increase moving forward, as the area is transformed from aged retail/light industrial/SFH to multi-unit buildings.

It's quite spectacular, actually.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2023, 6:28 PM
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Joseph Howe is one of those streets where you can now look at Google streetside from 2009 (as far back as data is available for this area) and it almost looks like a different place. This effect will only increase moving forward, as the area is transformed from aged retail/light industrial/SFH to multi-unit buildings.

It's quite spectacular, actually.
You want spectacular and not the usual HRM 5-8-floor box with some applied panels? Try this, which (on perhaps a smaller scale) this city badly needs. Just truly spectacular:



This is the Olympia Condos, by Fortis in Brooklyn, NY, hard alongside the Brooklyn Bridge.

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Old Posted Feb 26, 2023, 2:14 PM
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You want spectacular and not the usual HRM 5-8-floor box with some applied panels? Try this, which (on perhaps a smaller scale) this city badly needs. Just truly spectacular:

This is the Olympia Condos, by Fortis in Brooklyn, NY, hard alongside the Brooklyn Bridge.
Yes, while I agree that it would be nice for Halifax to have more NYC-style buildings, I was just talking about the transformation of Joseph Howe Drive in general.

I wonder if a building like this would even exist in NYC's equivalent to JHD (i.e. a non-descript location in the suburbs), as opposed to being next to one of the most iconic bridges in the world.

But yes, I agree with your sentiment. However, these ones posted above are actually kind of sharp looking... too bad they couldn't be a little taller.

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Old Posted Mar 2, 2023, 6:20 PM
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2621 CLIFTON STREET - 8-storey, 53-unit residential building ($14M). This is the recently demolished lot at Clifton & North.
Excavation is getting underway at 2621 CLIFTON STREET (NE corner of North Street). I live nearby so any photos I take will be tagged #2621Clifton


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Do we have a rendering for this one?
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LANCASTER VILLAS - LANCASTER DRIVE, DARTMOUTH


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LANCASTER VILLAS will have 176 units per building. The civic addresses are 4 & 6 Lancaster Drive.
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How many buildings for 2621 Clifton were torn down on North St. I know the first one on the corner was, were more demolished? I haven't seen any recent pictures
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LANCASTER VILLAS will have 176 units per building. The civic addresses are 4 & 6 Lancaster Drive.
LOL at "villas."
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new hotel in bayers lake

all NS reported that Cosmo properties has plans for new 500 room hotel is slated to start construction in 2024 and will take two years for completion its going to be located at 64 Dugger McNeil Dr near the new QE2 health out patience hospital being built in Bayers lake and says parking will be plenty

we all know what the plans and renderings all promised on the "Halifax Tower Hotel"
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we all know what the plans and renderings all promised on the "Halifax Tower Hotel"
Maybe they're going to build the other half of the hotel on this site.
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I went through this German website showing the population of the Halifax area and I focused on peninsula Halifax ...https://www.citypopulation.de/en/canada/metrohalifax/
Population in 2011 was 62,900 and 2021 was 71,114 a meager 13% increase in 10 years.
Biggest increase, 13%, in the area bounded by Morris,South Park and Sackville.
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I went through this German website showing the population of the Halifax area and I focused on peninsula Halifax ...https://www.citypopulation.de/en/canada/metrohalifax/
Population in 2011 was 62,900 and 2021 was 71,114 a meager 13% increase in 10 years.
Biggest increase, 13%, in the area bounded by Morris,South Park and Sackville.
13% is a little higher than the overall metro growth rate during that period. However I am not sure the peninsula is the greatest area to look at as portions of it are detached housing or industrial/commercial where not much can be built. A lot is being built in the urban core.

Census tract 8 around SGR remarkably went from 2,778 in the 2016 census to 5,203 in the 2021 census (!). And the building boom continues as of now.

Census tract 9 is likely to go way up in the future as the Cogswell lands become available. 19 has Richmond Yards which by itself could add 1,000 people.
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13% is a little higher than the overall metro growth rate during that period. However I am not sure the peninsula is the greatest area to look at as portions of it are detached housing or industrial/commercial where not much can be built. A lot is being built in the urban core.

Census tract 8 around SGR remarkably went from 2,778 in the 2016 census to 5,203 in the 2021 census (!). And the building boom continues as of now.

Census tract 9 is likely to go way up in the future as the Cogswell lands become available. 19 has Richmond Yards which by itself could add 1,000 people.
I looked at the peninsula because I have a chart showing the data from 1871. Off peninsula the 2021 population was 368,938. The peninsula and downtown Dartmouth is becoming more expensive and I expect greater growth of families in the suburbs. Exploring the commuting from outside HRM would be interesting as the urban core is becoming causing families to move to cheaper locations and nice new schools.
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The Scot and Joe Howe northern site by Superstore is getting concrete barriers and has excavators onsite, excavation appears to be imminent.
Building permit was submitted this week for 3539 JOSEPH HOWE DRIVE (north side of Scot Street) it's asking for $26.6M | 148 UNITS | 8 FLOORS. This will be two separate buildings on a shared underground parking podium.

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I looked at the peninsula because I have a chart showing the data from 1871. Off peninsula the 2021 population was 368,938. The peninsula and downtown Dartmouth is becoming more expensive and I expect greater growth of families in the suburbs. Exploring the commuting from outside HRM would be interesting as the urban core is becoming causing families to move to cheaper locations and nice new schools.

A couple of things:

1. As Someone123 said, a 13% population increase in ten years is comparable to or a little higher than the growth rate for the whole metro.

2. Regardless, almost all of that growth comes from the 2016-21 period, which points to exactly the opposite of what you're suggesting. Between 2016 and 2021, the HRM's overall growth was 9 percent; the peninsula's growth, however, was 14 percent (as visually illustrated here).

And if we look at demographic data at the census tract level, we can see that plenty of census tracts in the inner city and the inner suburbs have filled up increasingly with kids and young adults—families, in other words. The data is totally at odds with this idea that families are fleeing from the core for “nice new schools” or whatever (which are being built centrally as well in any case; my kid fill go to a brand-new SJAM in a few years).

I do agree that as the affordability situation worsens, growing families will in many cases be forced to look further afield. This is bad. But clearly enough families can afford to live centrally, and desire to, that we still have very healthy growth of young families on the peninsula and in the surrounding older suburbs.

Forgetting about families specifically, overall population growth in central areas (downtown, peninsula “urban fringe” neighbourhoods, and old central suburbs) is also dramatically outpacing growth in distant suburbs and rural areas. We can see that here. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/220209/t005b-eng.htm
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Building permit was submitted this week for 3539 JOSEPH HOWE DRIVE (north side of Scot Street) it's asking for $26.6M | 148 UNITS | 8 FLOORS. This will be two separate buildings on a shared underground parking podium.

Rendering from WM Fares Architects.
This looks like the headquarters of a villainous pharmaceutical company in a 1980s movie. The whole Fares house style is beginning to feel very tired, with the jumbles of clashing panels and overly complicated geometries. I'm really starting to crave simple, elegant building forms and high-quality exteriors. Fares is leaning more and more into this weird po-mo mish-mash look.
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Building permit was submitted this week for 3539 JOSEPH HOWE DRIVE (north side of Scot Street) it's asking for $26.6M | 148 UNITS | 8 FLOORS. This will be two separate buildings on a shared underground parking podium.

Rendering from WM Fares Architects.
Doesn't look like any ground floor retail. I guess there's enough nearby? Still, would be nice for a small pocket of retail (coffee shop or similar)

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This looks like the headquarters of a villainous pharmaceutical company in a 1980s movie.
Idk, that feels like a positive attribute. Build that funky city character!
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I think this is the old Salvation Army church site but am not sure .
That is the Sally Ann church site recently torn down.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2023, 6:32 PM
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Forgetting about families specifically, overall population growth in central areas (downtown, peninsula “urban fringe” neighbourhoods, and old central suburbs) is also dramatically outpacing growth in distant suburbs and rural areas. We can see that here. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/220209/t005b-eng.htm
There are some aerial photos here that reminded me of this discussion: https://twitter.com/Len_Wagg_photo

There are a few different categories of land and land use. One basic breakdown could be greenfield, single-use (suburban), and mixed-use where infill is permitted. The single-use areas tend to be stagnant as they are built out but don't allow for much densification.



You wouldn't expect much population growth in the foreground area above, even though it is on the peninsula and in high demand, because the municipality does not allow much new living space to be added.

This will have growth until it's built out with fairly low eventual densities:



This area grew hugely from 2016-2021:

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