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Old Posted Jan 17, 2023, 5:02 PM
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If I learn of plans for "Homophobic, Transphobic, Islamophobic, Xenophobic, Anti-Semitic, Misogynistic Chicken" to open in Winnipeg you can bet your ass I will be one of many people trying to keep that trash out of our community. If there is ever a time for NIMBYism THAT is definitely the line.
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2023, 5:06 PM
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If I learn of plans for "Homophobic, Transphobic, Islamophobic, Xenophobic, Anti-Semitic, Misogynistic Chicken" to open in Winnipeg you can bet your ass I will be one of many people trying to keep that trash out of our community. If there is ever a time for NIMBYism THAT is definitely the line.
LMAO dude that sounds unhinged, if you don't like the place don't go, I don't see what's so bad about people having the freedom to chose to support businesses or not. Trying to prevent a franchise from being established somewhere because you disagree with some of the things that the former owner of the corporation thinks is a little extreme..........
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2023, 6:41 PM
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^^ The actions of the company, not the owner, have earned them every single one of those descriptors.

Focusing on one item, how is it okay to fund a corporate medical program which funds ED medication for all male employees but refused to cover any birth control medication for female employees?
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2023, 8:31 PM
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Edit: moved my Arby's comment to the restaurant thread.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 12:33 AM
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On regent there’s a dollarama in KP and another one across the street near the toys r us.

Selkirk now has two dollarama’s lol.
In lots of small-medium towns in the US the only store they have is Dollar General. Was shocked by this in recent travels for family reunions in North and South Dakota. Places where I would think there's a decent amount of money given the massive agricultural industry.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 1:29 AM
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Chick-Fil-A is run by christo-fascists and they can fuck right off
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 3:59 AM
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If I learn of plans for "Homophobic, Transphobic, Islamophobic, Xenophobic, Anti-Semitic, Misogynistic Chicken" to open in Winnipeg you can bet your ass I will be one of many people trying to keep that trash out of our community. If there is ever a time for NIMBYism THAT is definitely the line.
I used to think this way and realized virtually every single billion dollar corporation exploits a group of people in some foreign country and now live with the fact they’re all garbage. Low wages, fucking up water supplies, extracting precious minerals, cutting forests, displacing people etc…

How many companies such as Walmart, Nike, Balenciaga and other large corporations should be called to heed for their numerous human rights violations? I know this is a whataboutism argument, but I think it’s a question we struggle with daily. Like there definitely is a line that can’t be crossed. The question now remains what is that line, and why companies over a certain net worth are able to get away with it.

Trying to keep this moralist stance will only lead to less and less options for you to shop at. We’re all just pawns of much bigger forces at play. It’s unfortunate but the Chick Fil-A CEO couldn’t give less of a shit if a few Canadians don’t like their stance on social issues no matter how much these controversies need to be brought into light. People will still get their chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with no hesitation.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 3:43 PM
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I used to think this way and realized virtually every single billion dollar corporation exploits a group of people in some foreign country and now live with the fact they’re all garbage. Low wages, fucking up water supplies, extracting precious minerals, cutting forests, displacing people etc…

How many companies such as Walmart, Nike, Balenciaga and other large corporations should be called to heed for their numerous human rights violations? I know this is a whataboutism argument, but I think it’s a question we struggle with daily. Like there definitely is a line that can’t be crossed. The question now remains what is that line, and why companies over a certain net worth are able to get away with it.

Trying to keep this moralist stance will only lead to less and less options for you to shop at. We’re all just pawns of much bigger forces at play. It’s unfortunate but the Chick Fil-A CEO couldn’t give less of a shit if a few Canadians don’t like their stance on social issues no matter how much these controversies need to be brought into light. People will still get their chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with no hesitation.
That's because most people don't give a damn about a company's politics or supposed morality. Companies are amoral by definition, their purpose is to make money.

My guess as to why some people are so perturbed by Chick-fil-a is that they cannot accept a high-profile company or corporate executives having christian morality (at least public facing) because they hate christian morals or what they stand for. That's all I can come up with when you look at true day to day human rights abuses of workers who make stuff for some of the fashion brands you named above, when many people who have trouble with the more traditional morality of some companies leadership say nothing or at least don't appear to have a problem with Uyghur slaves making their hoodies and court shoes.

I am not saying that I agree with Chick-fil-A or with any other corporate leadership at other companies, I don't look to all powerful corporate overlords to be my moral leaders, because they often suck at it. Their purpose is to make money. Vote with your feet and don't shop. It amazes me how much people are bothered that other people they disagree with could have the audacity to support a business they do not like.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 4:41 PM
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St. Vital Zellers

According to Global News, as part of Zellers return they will be opening a location at St. Vital Mall. I assume that would mean the Bay is closing up to make room?

Zellers is making a comeback in Canada this spring. Here are the locations, Global News
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The Bay at St Vital Centre will be 1 of 25 locations that will have a Zellers

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/here...year-1.6235651
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A lot of companies do things you wouldn't like and are a aligned with certain groups. Just check political donations..

It's that Chik-Fil-A issues are highly publicized due to their nature. And if you don't care, well that's your opinion.
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According to Global News, as part of Zellers return they will be opening a location at St. Vital Mall. I assume that would mean the Bay is closing up to make room?

Zellers is making a comeback in Canada this spring. Here are the locations, Global News
I believe it's a store within a store. Zellers will operate within a section of HBC's
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HBC just throwing anything at the wall at this point.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 5:13 PM
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If I learn of plans for "Homophobic, Transphobic, Islamophobic, Xenophobic, Anti-Semitic, Misogynistic Chicken" to open in Winnipeg you can bet your ass I will be one of many people trying to keep that trash out of our community. If there is ever a time for NIMBYism THAT is definitely the line.
Half the time when those type of accusations are thrown around it's not even true.....and a few of those things should even be taken as compliments these days.

I am with blackdog204 on this one. Can't wait to try it sometime.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 5:14 PM
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That's because most people don't give a damn about a company's politics or supposed morality. Companies are amoral by definition, their purpose is to make money.

My guess as to why some people are so perturbed by Chick-fil-a is that they cannot accept a high-profile company or corporate executives having christian morality (at least public facing) because they hate christian morals or what they stand for. That's all I can come up with when you look at true day to day human rights abuses of workers who make stuff for some of the fashion brands you named above, when many people who have trouble with the more traditional morality of some companies leadership say nothing or at least don't appear to have a problem with Uyghur slaves making their hoodies and court shoes.

I am not saying that I agree with Chick-fil-A or with any other corporate leadership at other companies, I don't look to all powerful corporate overlords to be my moral leaders, because they often suck at it. Their purpose is to make money. Vote with your feet and don't shop. It amazes me how much people are bothered that other people they disagree with could have the audacity to support a business they do not like.
I generally agree with what you're saying, people can't expect to only support companies that perfectly align with their own politics.

That having been said, being homophobic is not simply a political stance in 2023. It's bigotry. We're not talking about their stance on education policy or something, we're talking about their donations funding groups that condemn an entire category of people simply for being who they are. If a restaurant owner was openly anti-Semitic would you have the same take? Just don't eat there if that's not your "politics"? There's a difference between a political stance vs straight-up hate and bigotry.

"Christian morality" is not an excuse for bigotry either. I can't go around disparaging an ethnic group at work and then say "hey it's just what my religion believes!"

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^^ The actions of the company, not the owner, have earned them every single one of those descriptors.

Focusing on one item, how is it okay to fund a corporate medical program which funds ED medication for all male employees but refused to cover any birth control medication for female employees?
Exactly. It's one thing for a company to have politics that I disagree with. It's another thing entirely for a company to actively impose its religious views on employees.
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The Bay at St Vital Centre will be 1 of 25 locations that will have a Zellers

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/here...year-1.6235651

So it is true, Zellers is coming back.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 6:42 PM
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Exactly. It's one thing for a company to have politics that I disagree with. It's another thing entirely for a company to actively impose its religious views on employees.
And it isn't even so much your personal views on this issue, what Chick-fil-A is doing in the USA to their employees, or would be employees is actually a direct violation of the very foundation of the Canadian legal system. And it isn't just that it is a straight up violation of that legal foundation but that they are actively lobbying to change those laws so that other companies can also exploit employees in similar ways. This isn't just some shady company suing farmers over some seeds that may have blown into their fields or some fruit company running overseas factories making their phones similar to work prison camps. This is going down right in people's backyards and could have a long term impacts on everyone in Canada.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2023, 11:40 PM
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Just to help me understand what you're saying, to what exactly do you refer when you say, "what Chick-fil-A is doing in the USA to their employees, or would be employees is actually a direct violation of the very foundation of the Canadian legal system"?

If you forgive me, what you're saying makes it sound like this company might literally be the incarnation of the devil, which seems a touch dramatic.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2023, 8:09 AM
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According to Global News, as part of Zellers return they will be opening a location at St. Vital Mall. I assume that would mean the Bay is closing up to make room?

Zellers is making a comeback in Canada this spring. Here are the locations, Global News
You say The Bay is closing up to make room? LOL
The store os 122.000 ft 2 ...Zellers will be between 8 - 10.000 ft 2
It will be a micro store within..one small section
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2023, 2:42 PM
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HBC just throwing anything at the wall at this point.
No kidding, Zellers was a crappy out dated store before its demise so just exactly what are they bringing back……the mid 90’s?
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