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Vlajos · #1 Posted **Dec 20, 2018, 4:30 PM**

Easy decision Mendoza over Prekwinkle if that's what it boils down to.

Steely Dan · #2 Posted **Dec 20, 2018, 5:32 PM**

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Easy decision Mendoza over Prekwinkle if that's what it boils down to.

all.

DAY.

LONG.

the urban politician · #3 Posted **Dec 20, 2018, 5:29 PM**

That's not a good result for Bill Daley. He's probably got the most money so he better start spending it.

Ultimately I agree--I'd prefer Mendoza over the Preckwinkle as well

Mikemak27 · #4 Posted **Dec 21, 2018, 3:03 AM**

If it’s Mendoza versus Preckwinkle, without a doubt I’m voting Mendoza.

Kenmore · #5 Posted **Dec 30, 2018, 3:37 PM**

mendoza was obvious from day one of the surprise retirement decision

LouisVanDerWright · #6 Posted **Dec 30, 2018, 9:18 PM**

If Mendoza gets elected it will pretty much be the first time in Chicago history that we will have relatively policy continuum after a voluntary transfer of power.

In other words it will be the first time someone retired and wasn't replaced immediately by a reformer. Everyone else has died and been replaced by similar politicians or just held onto power forever. I would be thrilled to see Mendoza just because we might actually face a situation where we get new blood and ideas without just trashing every single policy even if it's working.

sentinel · #7 Posted **Dec 30, 2018, 10:11 PM**

Mendoza all they way. I like Preckwinkle. A lot. But her proposed LaSalle street/big financial inst. tax or whatever it is, is ridiculous.

the urban politician · #8 Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 2:40 AM**

^ If you like Preckwinkle in the sense that she's probably a dandy lady to have a cup of coffee with, then sure--me too.

But when I read her agenda it's like a list of everything that I oppose. It's like checking box after box of "Nope. Nope. Nope." Besides, the CTU is hell bent on destroying Chicago, so whoever they endorse is almost certainly the worst possible candidate.

LouisVanDerWright · #9 Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 3:03 AM**

No, the CTU is hell bent on lining their own pockets whether it's sustainable or not. Let's not muddy the waters like they do when they claim their strikes are "for the children". The CTU is an organization that exists solely to entrich it's members and for no other reason. It doesn't want to help the kids and it doesn't want to hurt the city of Chicago. It wants to extract maximum possible value for its members and maximize possible power for its leadership. That is the only reason the CTU exists, period.

As such you can assume whoever they endorse is inherently tainted by that agenda and therefore will ignore what is best for the citizens and city of Chicago in favor of whatever benefits the CTU.

moorhosj · #10 Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 5:21 PM**

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No, the CTU is hell bent on lining their own pockets whether it's sustainable or not. Let's not muddy the waters like they do when they claim their strikes are "for the children". The CTU is an organization that exists solely to entrich it's members and for no other reason. It doesn't want to help the kids and it doesn't want to hurt the city of Chicago. It wants to extract maximum possible value for its members and maximize possible power for its leadership. That is the only reason the CTU exists, period.

As such you can assume whoever they endorse is inherently tainted by that agenda and therefore will ignore what is best for the citizens and city of Chicago in favor of whatever benefits the CTU.

Couldn't agree with this more. The world isn't binary, it is possible for Preckwinkle to be endorsed by CTU, but still better than other candidates. Unlike many in this race (Wilson, McCarthy, Lightfoot, Enyia, technically Vallas) she has an actual political record to look at with successes and failures. Let's not forget that she cut some spending, tried to lower pension costs and lowered the sales tax. Not all of those played out, but lets look at the whole story instead of acting like she was just created in a CTU lab to do their bidding.

Mikemak27 · #11 Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 7:08 PM**

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Couldn't agree with this more. The world isn't binary, it is possible for Preckwinkle to be endorsed by CTU, but still better than other candidates. Unlike many in this race (Wilson, McCarthy, Lightfoot, Enyia, technically Vallas) she has an actual political record to look at with successes and failures. Let's not forget that she cut some spending, tried to lower pension costs and lowered the sales tax. Not all of those played out, but lets look at the whole story instead of acting like she was just created in a CTU lab to do their bidding.

She also endorsed and backed Barrios for county assessor and hand picked Kim Foxx for cook county states attorney. Both of those endorsements show how much she values loyalty to the nth degree and to hell how it impacts the county at large.

Vlajos · #12 Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 9:21 PM**

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Couldn't agree with this more. The world isn't binary, it is possible for Preckwinkle to be endorsed by CTU, but still better than other candidates. Unlike many in this race (Wilson, McCarthy, Lightfoot, Enyia, technically Vallas) she has an actual political record to look at with successes and failures. Let's not forget that she cut soyme spending, tried to lower pension costs and lowered the sales tax. Not all of those played out, but lets look at the whole story instead of acting like she was just created in a CTU lab to do their bidding.

Her signature issue when first running for Cook County President was to cut the sales tax. She did then raised it back and came up with the ridiculous soda tax. Which passed but was repealed against her wishes. If she cut spending it clearly wasn't enough.

LouisVanDerWright · #13 Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 10:30 PM**

Preckwinkle wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen, but she would represent something of a Reversion to old school machine politics that Rahm was such a breath of fresh air from.

moorhosj · #14 Posted **Jan 2, 2019, 4:46 PM**

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Her signature issue when first running for Cook County President was to cut the sales tax. She did then raised it back and came up with the ridiculous soda tax. Which passed but was repealed against her wishes. If she cut spending it clearly wasn't enough.

You are 100% correct and have reiterated my point. She has a record we can actually look at unlike most of the other candidates she is running against.

Many here say they want Mendoza (my current preference). Meanwhile, people ignore her ties to Ed Burke while calling Preckwinkle a machine or union stooge. What is Mendoza when she calls Ed Burke a "mentor", accepts his campaign money and courts his endorsement?

This election is a chance to bury the machine-style politics that have infected our city for too long. I'm still not sure where Mendoza lies on that spectrum, but my point is that things have more than one layer and simply labeling someone based on the most recent Crain's article doesn't really help.

SIGSEGV · #15 Posted **Jan 3, 2019, 6:58 PM**

Burke is probably donezo: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...103-story.html

LouisVanDerWright · #16 Posted **Jan 3, 2019, 7:29 PM**

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Burke is probably donezo: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...103-story.html

Now can we charge like 20 more aldermen with extortion? Lord knows halfvof them are guilty of it!

Vlajos · #17 Posted **Jan 3, 2019, 7:38 PM**

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Now can we charge like 20 more aldermen with extortion? Lord knows halfvof them are guilty of it!

I can't help but beat my dead horse of reducing the City Council size to 10. The whole system is set up for corruption as is. There is absolutely no need for 50 wards when NYC has 50 council members and LA has 10. Both those cities seem to be doing fine with far less representation per capita.

moorhosj · #18 Posted **Jan 3, 2019, 8:08 PM**

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I can't help but beat my dead horse of reducing the City Council size to 10. The whole system is set up for corruption as is. There is absolutely no need for 50 wards when NYC has 50 council members and LA has 10. Both those cities seem to be doing fine with far less representation per capita.

It isn't really an apples to apples comparison. For example, NYC also has 5 distinct borough presidents, borough boards and community boards (comprised of representatives from 59 community districts).

LA has 15 council members and 97 neighborhood councils who according to the city charter “may present to the Mayor and Council an annual list of priorities for the City budget.”

Vlajos · #19 Posted **Jan 3, 2019, 9:34 PM**

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It isn't really an apples to apples comparison. For example, NYC also has 5 distinct borough presidents, borough boards and community boards (comprised of representatives from 59 community districts).

LA has 15 council members and 97 neighborhood councils who according to the city charter “may present to the Mayor and Council an annual list of priorities for the City budget.”

Not really. Each burough President is really a County President as like Cook County President. Each borough (ie. County) also has a board like Cook County's board. And those community district boards are voluntary and have no real power.

I think those LA neighborhood are just feel good things too.

I'd glady get rid of 40 alderman and create unpaid neighborhood boards with no power.

Randomguy34 · #20 Posted **Jan 3, 2019, 8:59 PM**

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Burke is probably donezo: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...103-story.html

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It isn't really an apples to apples comparison. For example, NYC also has 5 distinct borough presidents, borough boards and community boards (comprised of representatives from 59 community districts).

I honestly wish Chicago could adopt something similar to NYC's borough president model for for the North/Northwest, West, and South/Southwest Sides