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Originally Posted by King DenCity
Barnett has wanted to top 432 park for awhile now and would lose vast amounts of money by shortening the building height.
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I don't think Barnett will lose "vast amounts of money" with a shorter tower. Whatever the height will be, it will be taller than One57. And no one has said the tower would be "smaller". It's probably just configured to give Barnett more money for the development. And as I've said earlier, don't assume this is the last tower Gary Barnett is going to build.
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Originally Posted by Zapatan
There was a recent article stating that this would top 432 but I think they were mistaken and just going from the 1550 rumor. We have no logical reason to believe this tower will end up taller than 1250.
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Until revised permits are filed, or details of new plans are released, we'll go with what we know officially. That's why all of the press articles still refer to the building as being 1,550 ft, and that's why we haven't changed the thread title here. No one wants to operate on rumors, until they become facts or come from a source that could give the facts. That 1,550 ft height comes from official City documents.
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Originally Posted by King DenCity
I believe there was too much buildup for the height to be reduced this much, If it is reduced then Barnett was a fool and will lose all his wow factor
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I think not. Barnett has said height has never been the issue with his developments. His One57 is significantly shorter, but in the meantime it's become one of the most successful in Manhattan.
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Originally Posted by King DenCity
I believe there is a word for what this guy is doing... it's called TROLLING
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I find the information to be very credible, although it could already be dated.
Let's revisit some earlier posts on the topic:
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http://observer.com/2012/05/gary-bar...d-57th-street/
according to sources outside the developer, Mr. Barnett has tapped another Pritzker firm, Herzog & de Meuron, of 40 Bond fame, to build a 1,250-foot residential tower at Broadway and 57th Street. Yes, One57 was not enough. When it stops being the best, this project, and so many others, will be ready to carry on the legacy. When asked about the project, Mr. Barnett did not deny it, though he noted that, “Nothing has been settled, not the height, not the architect.”
What there was not room to say was the rest of the impressive firms under consideration: Herzog & de Meuron beat out fellow European Pritzker winners Norman Foster, Richard Rogers and Jean Nouvel and local favorites SHoP, according to our sources. The tower, as specified in the competition brief called for a multi-story base of offices with residences and a hotel on top, a top-of-the-line mixed use tower.
As Mr. Barnett made clear, any of this could change, but it shows a continued commitment to high-end design at the very least.
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http://observer.com/2012/11/gary-bar...50-foot-tower/
By Matt Chaban
11/27/1
The new tower’s height, according to building permits filed last week: 1,550 feet. That would make it the world’s sixth tallest building—at least until something else comes along and knocks it off its pedestal.
That is a good 50 percent taller than either the Chrysler Building or One57, while all three are about the same size, between 1.2 and 1.4 million square feet. The tower will be slender, but it will also be solid unlike some of its spindly rivals, notably 432 Park and predecessors like the Trump World Tower.
Previously, it had been speculated that 225 West 57th Street would top out around 1,250 feet, but Mr. Barnett has pushed beyond that to new heights.
“There won’t be a spire or anything like that, the floors will go all the way to the top, or almost to the top, with some mechanicals above,” Mr. Barnett said. “This is not a gimmick.”
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By Elliot Brown
December 16, 2012
New York-based Extell is aiming high: Last month, the company filed a permit application to build a 1,550-foot tower on the site just east of Broadway between 57th and 58th streets. While the precise height could easily change—Mr. Barnett said plans were very preliminary—the developer is clearly gearing up to build one of the tallest towers in the city...
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http://therealdeal.com/blog/2013/03/...arew-luncheon/
Although Extell’s nearby development at 225 West 57th Street is expected to be the tallest residential building in the city, Barnett was more skeptical. “I don’t think it will turn out to be the tallest building,” he said.
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http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/130319854
BY MATT CHABAN
MARCH 19, 2013
The new building, set to rise at 225 W. 57th St., will reach at least 1,550 feet, according to building permits, though Gary Barnett, Extell's principal, has said it could go even higher if he can assemble more air rights.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/re...ewanted=1&_r=0
By JULIE SATOW
June 7, 2013
“Building tall is not about bragging rights,” he said recently, during a conversation in the nondescript conference room of his offices on Third Avenue; he was wearing slacks and a mock turtleneck. “What drives the building is design, the views, the economics.” He built One57 to its full height “because we couldn’t get in all the air rights any other way — once you have it, the ability to build it, I didn’t want to just throw it away.”
Still, deciding a building’s height is a judgment call, and “there have been times that I had air rights but I didn’t end up using them,” he said. Extreme height adds time and uncertainty to a project, as well as construction costs. One57, for instance, was waylaid when Hurricane Sandy snapped off a crane boom and left it dangling far above the street. Mr. Barnett is weighing these considerations for his Nordstrom property, he said, and said he may choose to forego the full 1,550 feet.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the tower height was reduced, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were higher. Either way, it will be a brand new addition to the City's skyline, will no doubt be a quality design, and will be under construction soon. When the renderings are revealed, the excitement will jump up a notch, despite whatever the final height will be.
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