Cambie Corridor Updates - Page 55

officedweller · #**1081** Posted **Feb 29, 2020, 3:43 AM**

Pearson Dogwood

By City of rain Feb 8th:

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IMG_8240 by Hung Lam, on Flickr

IMG_8246 by Hung Lam, on Flickr

IMG_8247 by Hung Lam, on Flickr

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Feathered Friend · #**1082** Posted **Mar 10, 2020, 7:33 PM**

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Thu Mar 12: 'Pre-application' open house for proposed changes to #PearsonDogwood development (addt'l rental [in blue] plus addt'l heights [in red] to make up). #Marpole

https://twitter.com/MarpoleMatters/status/1234586189459415040?s=20

Vin · #**1083** Posted **Mar 10, 2020, 11:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://twitter.com/MarpoleMatters/status/1234586189459415040?s=20

An example of how added height creates higher density.

osirisboy · #**1084** Posted **Mar 13, 2020, 3:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

An example of how added height creates higher density.

Yes exactly. If the floorplates remain the same of course an increase in height will increase density.

Feathered Friend · #**1085** Posted **Mar 20, 2020, 9:08 PM**

My Photos from the open house at the Cambie Garden's Presentation Centre

Feathered Friend · #**1086** Posted **Mar 20, 2020, 9:16 PM**

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Inspired By The East – 2019’s Seeds Sprout New Opportunities In Cambie’s Exclusive Gardens

500 – 650 West 57th Avenue (Pearson Dogwood lands) – Cambie Gardens
While Darren and I have a backlog of content to write, as civic events have been postponed, this will likely be the last open house we attend for the foreseeable future. Admittedly, I was not certain we would go to this one, as it conflicted with another meeting for a significant development in West Vancouver. We have often debated if we should cover projects on the North Shore, but ultimately I persuaded Darren we should stay in Vancouver.

Which was pretty easy to do, as we have both been curious to see the large models inside the Cambie Gardens Presentation Centre for some time. Along with the general layout of the site was a huge model of Parcel A, where prices for studio apartments start at roughly $700,000. That might be affordable for single-family homeowners looking to downsize, but last summer city council acknowledged they needed to find a way to promote far more obtainable housing here.

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2020/03/20...ortunities-in-cambies-exclusive-gardens/

scryer · #**1087** Posted **Mar 21, 2020, 1:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2020/03/20...ortunities-in-cambies-exclusive-gardens/

This is a great start. I would like to see more towers 30+. But an excellent proposal nonetheless.

logan5 · #**1088** Posted **Mar 21, 2020, 2:37 AM**

It's great that there is new housing product coming to market, but there needs to be a far better balance of housing produced that is not high rise condo. On a per sq foot basis, high rise units are much more expensive than ground oriented units because they require a lot of common area. The parkade is especially costly, with your parking spot alone costing $50 000 or more.

It's criminal that in a city with an affordability issue, land use policy is weighted so heavily towards expensive high rise developments.

Changing City · #**1089** Posted **Mar 21, 2020, 5:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by logan5

It's great that there is new housing product coming to market, but there needs to be a far better balance of housing produced that is not high rise condo. On a per sq foot basis, high rise units are much more expensive than ground oriented units because they require a lot of common area. The parkade is especially costly, with your parking spot alone costing $50 000 or more.

It's criminal that in a city with an affordability issue, land use policy is weighted so heavily towards expensive high rise developments.

This isn't the place to debate the reasons why different sorts of unit cost more or less, but I don't think you're correct that high rise are necessarily more per square foot. New ground oriented townhouses in the same area as this also cost around $1,000 per square foot - more for new developments. Yes, with a tower you're paying for the common areas, underground parking and amenities, but the cost per unit for the land is a lot less, so overall there's not much difference on a pro-forma. The concrete construction costs more than woodframe, but it's not as robust, so there's something of a trade-off there, too. This area has a lot of zoning for mid-rise condos, and townhouses (as is frequently bemoaned by some posters), high rise is the exception.

The reason the prices are so high for towers is that up to now buyers have been willing to pay the price asked. What buyers paid for previous projects sets the base for the next one, and most developers will see if they can get a bit more on each subsequent project. The real estate threads have seen discussions about what it would take to 'reset' the market to a much lower level. While there was a bit of a drop in the resale market, it wasn't as obvious in the newly developed market. Developers just build less if they can't get enough sales at the price point they have calculated. The scarcity of new product then keeps prices higher. To get them to drop would need a longer period of recession, With recent events and the state of the economy maybe that's on the way, and we'll see if, and how it affects prices, or whether it just means less gets built.

Feathered Friend · #**1090** Posted **Apr 21, 2020, 10:24 PM**

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As we had other plans, we missed this proposal’s open house & Urban Design Panel review. Which is a shame, as this unique Cambie Corridor project will add 247 homes, 9,900 sqft of office use, a 37 space daycare & a youth centre.

https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/5812-5844cambiest/index.htm

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1252722732736770048?s=20

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It has taken 2 months, but the minutes of the later meeting reveal it won the panel’s unanimous support, despite some recommendations. As its community plan allows for this height & density, has this process provided any value for our cash strapped city?

https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/udpminutes02192020.pdf

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1252722738248081413?s=20

Changing City · #**1091** Posted **Apr 21, 2020, 11:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

As we had other plans, we missed this proposal’s open house & Urban Design Panel review. Which is a shame, as this unique Cambie Corridor project will add 247 homes, 9,900 sqft of office use, a 37 space daycare & a youth centre.

I think it's 9,900 square metres of office - about 106,000 square feet.

Feathered Friend · #**1092** Posted **Apr 21, 2020, 11:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Changing City

I think it's 9,900 square metres of office - about 106,000 square feet.

You're absolutely right... oh well if NASA can make that mistake, I suppose it can happen to anyone.

Changing City · #**1093** Posted **Apr 21, 2020, 11:55 PM**

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You're absolutely right... oh well if NASA can make that mistake, I suppose it can happen to anyone.

More office! That has to be good? It's quite unusual to see an application quote space in metric - even if Canada is nominally a metric country. (With 454 gram bags of sugar, and 216 x 279 mm paper).

Migrant_Coconut · #**1094** Posted **Apr 22, 2020, 12:01 AM**

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You're absolutely right... oh well if NASA can make that mistake, I suppose it can happen to anyone.

Lockheed-Martin; NASA explicitly asked for the results in metric. Sorry, have to be "that guy" here.

Feathered Friend · #**1095** Posted **Apr 22, 2020, 1:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Lockheed-Martin; NASA explicitly asked for the results in metric. Sorry, have to be "that guy" here.

There's no need to be apologize for being right.

officedweller · #**1096** Posted **Apr 22, 2020, 8:35 AM**

The eye-shaped mechanical screen on the taller tower looks useless. It matches the shorter tower, but no one will see it and it isn't carried down through the tower's design.

Lexus · #**1097** Posted **Apr 26, 2020, 2:24 PM**

Cambie Gardens. Above the grade
2020 April 25

Untitled by Lexus, on Flickr

Klazu · #**1098** Posted **Apr 26, 2020, 3:20 PM**

Seeing Cambie Gardens postings above and realizing that they are already constructing some of those buildings, I do wonder what is the latest with adding the new SkyTrain station? They are moving forward with a new station in Richmond and should prioritize it here as well.

Lexus · #**1099** Posted **Apr 26, 2020, 3:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Seeing Cambie Gardens postings above and realizing that they are already constructing some of those buildings, I do wonder what is the latest with adding the new SkyTrain station? They are moving forward with a new station in Richmond and should prioritize it here as well.

Richmond station is cheaper to build and I think Richmond already accumulated all cash necessary for it to go ahead. This one is underground one, therefore a lot more expensive to build. Lets hope government will start giving more money (COVID-19 recession) and it will get build sooner then later.

Migrant_Coconut · #**1100** Posted **Apr 27, 2020, 11:06 PM**

The relevant discussions are hidden somewhere around the forum. tl;dr - there's a world of difference between $20 million elevated and $100 million underground.