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Originally Posted by Jack Guevara
It would be great to hear of new projects in the middle part of Whalley. jhousner you mentioned Bosa who owns land around city hall. What they're doing is great, but it doesn't go far enough for connecting Gateway and Surrey Central and connecting the surrey skyline.
Is there any other group above 104th and below 108th that could make some significant progress? What can be done with that land? community gardens, government buildings, office buildings? It's great that Surrey is building all these towers, but when I look out the skytrain windows I see underdeveloped empty lots between gateway and central. When those lots get developed(if they ever do), it would have such a profound and positive impact in the urban feeling of downtown Surrey. I hope this happens sooner than later.
Jack
P.s You haters have no business trolling this page. I come here to read about new developments in Surrey, not your ignorant opinions.
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I agree. When you look at the overall map of the area the blocks you're referencing are bound by University Drive to KGB and 105th to 108th. So basically 4 x 4 blocks (Surrey blocks).
In that you have a rather large empty lot beside City Point on both sides. There is also an open lot just South of 108th by where 107a would bunch through to KGB. Next there are 3 empty lots along 105a close to KGB and the two large lots next to SkyTrain between 105a and 105.
The rest are at varying degrees of redevelopment potential. For example there is the strip-mall on the South-West corner of KGB and 108th. I don't see that going anywhere. You then have the stretch of commercial from that mall along KGB to 107a. There have been a few small-scale buildings built along there but I have a hunch much of that land developers are waiting to see what Bosa does across the street with the Dell mall property.
The rest I have a feeling that you won't see any movement until the edges start to push those directions. For example it would be difficult as a developer to build a shining new residential/commercial mixed-use building at the corner of 105a and City Parkway basically no-man's land while it is surrounded by open lots and derelict light industrial/commercial buildings.
If you want an example of the development trend I envision, look to Burnaby between Edmonds and Royal Oak. There is a lot of light industry/commercial area but residential has been pushing through over the last 10-15 years. You see more and more new residential developments, condos, townhomes, etc. But they originated around Royal Oak and Edmonds and we're only seeing them because those areas are spreading outwards into the industrial land between.
Same deal here. As Bosa builds to the South you'll probably see development proposals for the land just North of 105 Ave. As those start being built you'll see more proposals north of 105a.
One thing a lot of people maybe don't realize is that around Gateway there have been dozens of large scale proposals. There have been 5-8 highrises proposed then put on hold then cancelled over the past 15 years. There are about 5 on the books right now that are "on hold." It is still not a developer friendly neighborhood I think and that is evident by the snails pace of Quatro's development.
Yes they had a massive fire that set them back on one of the buildings, but I've received so many E-mails encouraging me to buy units, that it shows me they aren't selling like hot-cakes so the demand is still difficult in that area largely because of the area itself and the reputation it still has and to a degree warrants.
So while I completely agree, I have a feeling from a development perspective, you'll see most of the development continue around Surrey Central, King George, and the Hospital District. It's just easier to sell and they already have a leg-up reputation wise.
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If I'm included in the SDL (or their Mayor so to speak), I'll side note that I only get pissy at comments when people post comments that are just filled with logical fallacy after logical fallacy. If people back comments up with real facts and figures, with true representation, and don't hold Surrey to a special account they are unwilling to hold other cities too in Metro Vancouver, then I get annoyed.
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