ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[Verge]

Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

That's true, and I'm surprised anyone could think the area is dead and OMP should have retail. Those ideas don't seem compatible. How do they expect any retail to survive if no one is around? I guess some people haven't considered that the addition of residential units will bring more people to the area and allow more retail spaces to be built in the future.

Anyway, in the real world, OMP is only a block from one of the busiest parts of Midtown and more than 100,000 sq ft of retail is already being proposed within a half mile of it. I don't think the absence of one more taqueria is going to result in an apocalypse for the entire neighborhood.

Keep calm and carry on...

Thanks-- its nice to see the debate here-- I agree that generally retail at street level-- esp. on Peachtree is important-- and having it here would not be negative-- but the building responds well to the street (its not at all 'suburban' and couldn't be by Midtown zoning) and it is not possible to have retail everywhere-- there is simply too much space. For the record, the original David Chipperfield highrise design that included a branch of the High for large scale pieces, was wonderful-- but its not 2007 anymore--

[atlantaguy]

Originally Posted by Verge

Thanks-- its nice to see the debate here-- I agree that generally retail at street level-- esp. on Peachtree is important-- and having it here would not be negative-- but the building responds well to the street (its not at all 'suburban' and couldn't be by Midtown zoning) and it is not possible to have retail everywhere-- there is simply too much space. For the record, the original David Chipperfield highrise design that included a branch of the High for large scale pieces, was wonderful-- but its not 2007 anymore--

Exactly, Verge. This stretch of the street isn't exactly devoid of pedestrians to begin with, especially in nice weather.

The blocks to the North can be quite lively midday with all of the outside seating for several adjacent restaurants/coffee shops. I also see a lot of pedestrians going back and forth to Colony Square, the pocket park at 15th, etc. Every single block of Peachtree (especially North of Colony Square) does not need retail.

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by Terminus

The zoning does match the Blueprint, which does not call for continuous retail north of 14th Street. Check out page 2, which specifically shows the retail vision:

http://www.midtownatl.com/_files/docs/blueprint-ii_ex_sum.pdf

But page 13 of that same document shows the lot as "medium density mixed use" as opposed to "medium density residential." That's where I'm getting confused.

[shivtim]

Update from the hinterlands:

Downtown Alpharetta development (new city hall and library):



Avalon:



Skyhouse Buckhead:





Post Alexander Tower:



Cyan on Peachtree:



Buckhead Atlanta development:

[Terminus]

Originally Posted by shivtim

But page 13 of that same document shows the lot as "medium density mixed use" as opposed to "medium density residential." That's where I'm getting confused.

Here's how land use works... a mixed-use designation indicates that a mix of uses is allowed, but not required. Thus, in a mixed-use zoning district (like Midtown), you can do purely office, purely hotel, purely residential, etc. However, in an area zoned residential, you can only build residential. Make sense?

Calling out specific building uses like they did is really just bad planning. It gives the plan "speculative specificity." This is why most current plans are much more general and use transect zones or very general and broad mixed-use categories in areas where you can't control specific building uses.

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by shivtim

Update from the hinterlands:

Downtown Alpharetta development (new city hall and library):



Avalon:



Skyhouse Buckhead:





Post Alexander Tower:



Cyan on Peachtree:



Buckhead Atlanta development:

Great updates. Thanks for all of your hard work.

[micropundit]

Atlanta based Noble Investment Group, a lodging and hospitality investment organization, is funding a new Marriott Hotel, believed to be an AC Marriot, in Buckhead.Noble filed a “commercial land development” permit with City of Atlanta Tuesday to prepare the land where the new building will be constructed, at 3462 Peachtree Road. The parcel of land where the hotel is being developed is occupied by Phipps Plaza, according to local blog, What Now Atlanta.

http://www.whatnowatlanta.com/2014/07/08/marriott-opening-hotel-at-phipps-plaza/

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by micropundit

Atlanta based Noble Investment Group, a lodging and hospitality investment organization, is funding a new Marriott Hotel, believed to be an AC Marriot, in Buckhead.Noble filed a “commercial land development” permit with City of Atlanta Tuesday to prepare the land where the new building will be constructed, at 3462 Peachtree Road. The parcel of land where the hotel is being developed is occupied by Phipps Plaza, according to local blog, What Now Atlanta.

http://www.whatnowatlanta.com/2014/07/08/marriott-opening-hotel-at-phipps-plaza/

Any idea on how big, tall this will be???

[scania]

Originally Posted by bigstick

Any idea on how big, tall this will be???

There is a rendering on the previous page.

[Triptychtwo]

[bryantm3]

was the 5th and peachtree project ever approved by the DRC?

[briantech]

How do you build a new building on top of a shopping mall?


Also here's an update of the new falcons stadium.

[AtlantaMustang]

Originally Posted by briantech

How do you build a new building on top of a shopping mall?

That map is a little off. It's going Northeast of the mall, facing Wieuca.

[cabasse]

5th+peachtree is the jlb project, not the awesome integral one right?

[AtlantaMustang]

Originally Posted by cabasse

5th+peachtree is the jlb project, not the awesome integral one right?

Correct.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jlb+5th+and+peachtree

[Buck]

Some beautiful trees on that lot, but it will be a great project for that part of Midtown.

[Libertarian]

Yeah, unless the trees are removed and then they don't execute that great project.

[cabasse]

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

Correct.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jlb+5th+and+peachtree

go easy, i'm at work. we all get one free pass...

[Verge]

Originally Posted by bigstick

Any idea on how big, tall this will be???

Wrong loaction for the AC-- Its at Wieuca and Peachtree-- this is the 'front' of the mall--

[Verge]

Thanks for the new construction photos-- Avalon is one dog of a project-- architecturally--