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Old Posted Nov 10, 2010, 6:44 AM
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From top right to lower left:
1) The remaining southern bridge from the WFC to the original WTC, as far as I can tell, it will be demolished as part of Brookfield properties renovation of the WFC.

2) This will be the western half (the eastern half being under the DB building) of an elevated park which will feature a restored St. Nicholas Chuch (assuming they haven't pissed off the PA enough to eminent domain their asses off the island) and an elevated park situated over underground infrastructure, including the freight ramp into the Trade Center.

3) No idea, looks like it's either part of the memorial complex or the subway.

4) A blanket over the 4WTC substructure.

5) Temporary reinforcing beams that are keeping the eastern bathtub foundation from collapsing until they finish the substructure for 2WTC. The below-grade floors will, by themselves, support the tub permanently.
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2010, 7:10 AM
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It looks like they're going to top out the building way before it's close to being ready to open. Does anyone know what the schedule is for completion, after the steel top out? I know 2013 is the final date of completion, but when will they get to floor 105?(if that's still the top floor)
     
     
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@STR, thank you!

The tower is suppose to top out by late-2011 (fourth quarter of 2011 w)-or-early-2012
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2010, 7:47 AM
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@STR, thank you!

The tower is suppose to top out by late-2011 (fourth quarter of 2011 w)-or-early-2012
Thanks! So it will be close on 9/11 for the ten year mark.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2010, 8:33 AM
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As tall as it looks at the moment, we are only about one-third the way up to the roof.
Something is not adding up if they are on the 46th floor and its a third of a way to the top of the roof? That would make the building 138 stories to the roof. Also if they are on the 46th floor and you compare it to the height of WTC 7, which is 52 stories, WTC 1looks like its too short compared to WTC 7 to be 46 stories now,,,anyone?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2010, 8:43 AM
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Can somebody please explain the objects circled in the photo below (i.e. purpose). Thank you.
Also, there are some white markers placed on 1 WTC and I don't if they are meant to keep the glass properly positioned. If someone can clarify that would be great. Thanks.

Just a thought. Has anyone thought yet how we are going to keep all this water out of our coastal cities as sea levels rise with glacier melt and global warming? It seems like we already have to take precautions and create bathtubs to keep out the Hudson. I can just imagine what a sea level rise is going to do. I just wondered how much planning and research is going into this now. Will they perhaps build a sea-gate like structure in the narrows coming into New York Harbor for instance?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2010, 9:06 AM
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^Umm...because the ocean won't, under any probable circumstance, elevate the 12 feet it needs to get into and waterlog Manhattan.
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2010, 11:42 AM
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So will we be seeing cladding going up this week?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2010, 2:31 PM
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Just a reminder folks, the topic here is Freedom Tower / One World Trade Center and its construction.
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Something is not adding up if they are on the 46th floor and its a third of a way to the top of the roof? That would make the building 138 stories to the roof. Also if they are on the 46th floor and you compare it to the height of WTC 7, which is 52 stories, WTC 1looks like its too short compared to WTC 7 to be 46 stories now,,,anyone?
The 1/3 point to the roof was about floors 39,40 or 439' and 453'. The 1/3 point to the top of the spire is on floor 50. For your 2nd question Floors 52 in both 1WTC and 7WTC are at different elivations compared to eachother. In part due to the base height and the 1st office floor 20 of 1WTC. The floor height and mechanical floors and how they are spaced in both building

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God damn it I hate when people quote pictures I almost thought it was a new picture of awaited glass! Oh well.
     
     
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Why is the steel of the 21st floor white and the other steel above brown? Is there concrete around it now?
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Why is the steel of the 21st floor white and the other steel above brown? Is there concrete around it now?
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2010, 7:18 PM
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Something is not adding up if they are on the 46th floor and its a third of a way to the top of the roof? That would make the building 138 stories to the roof. Also if they are on the 46th floor and you compare it to the height of WTC 7, which is 52 stories, WTC 1looks like its too short compared to WTC 7 to be 46 stories now,,,anyone?
The 1/3rd mark was passed a long time ago, on floor 40. Also, 7WTC is designated as being 52 stories tall but this has always made no sense to me. It should be called 56 stories tall. The highest office floor is the 52nd floor and it's the last floor that the elevators travel to, but in the original Twin Towers, the 110th floor was the roof. I've been up top on 7WTC and after you get off the elevator on 52, you walk up a flight of stairs to a doorway with a plaque beside it that even SAYS "53" on it, and when you go through the door it's just a huge mechanical room covering 95% of the floor and there's a very narrow walkway around it, with no ceiling. And the mechanical floors themselves are three stories, with the REAL roof on top. So, adding the three mechanical floors on top of the highest office floor, it should be 53, 54, and 55, and then using the same logic applied to the Twin Towers, the roof should be 56.

So, yeah, the logic that goes into the desgination of floor numbers often makes no sense at the WTC. 7WTC is said to be 52 stories when it's really more like 56, and 1WTC is 105 stories when it really should be more like 95 or so!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2010, 9:07 PM
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^Not entirely true. The roof was not the 110th floor in the WTC (that was a gimmick used by Sears for its 108 story tower), there was an actual 110th floor, 10.5 feet from the ceiling/110floor slab to the roof at the edge of the level (the roof wasn't flat,). As far as I can tell wasn't used for much aside from storing the window washing robots when not in use, some TV boadcasting, and maybe random miscellaneous maintenance storage, mostly due to how the hat truss had multiple diagonal beams on that level, which made moving around a bit difficult since you had to keep ducking under/stepping over the beams in certain parts of the floor.
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2010, 9:59 PM
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Will you people ever drop floor count and actual heights? STR made it pretty clear that it's a pointless obsession.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2010, 10:18 PM
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Something is not adding up if they are on the 46th floor and its a third of a way to the top of the roof? That would make the building 138 stories to the roof. Also if they are on the 46th floor and you compare it to the height of WTC 7, which is 52 stories, WTC 1looks like its too short compared to WTC 7 to be 46 stories now,,,anyone?

In this case it's because there are no floors 7-19 in the tower, so the 20th floor is only 186 feet off the ground while 7wtc's would be much higher. But in many other cases like that it is normally because of ceiling heights, the number of floors does not at all say how tall a building is

a 50 story building could theoretically be the same height as a 100 story building if it had about 20 feet of space between each floor while the 100 story tower had maybe 10 , they would both be 1000 footers.
     
     
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