Chief William Commanda Bridge (former Prince of Wales Bridge) - Page 54

rocketphish · #**1061** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 10:23 PM**

The Prince of Wales bridge today, Dec. 11, 2020

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...f-wales-bridge

Kitchissippi · #**1062** Posted **Dec 12, 2020, 12:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

That's probably the most likely scenario. The bridge has been neglected so long that it could never support rail, so MUP is the only chance at giving it a new life. Hopefully, the Feds can champion a project to build double track rail on a new bridge next to it in the near future. They have expressed interest in building two, maybe three new road bridge (Alexandra replacement, Kettle and a west end bridge), why not a transit only bridge for Trillium?

If a new transit bridge is to be considered later, building it out by Parkdale might provide better utility than right beside this one. A direct link between the UQAM Rapibus and Tunney's Pasture Stations could be really useful with a stop in the densified north end of Parkdale. If it were for a surface tram, I could easily see them running on the wide grassy medians within Tunney's. Of course this wouldn't be a Trillium extension, more like a Rapibus tram conversion.

Clinton Desveaux · #**1063** Posted **Dec 12, 2020, 12:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by acottawa

ends in a low density residential neighbouhood with no major employers

I thought you were referring to Stittsville for a minute

Allandale25 · #**1064** Posted **Dec 28, 2020, 2:00 AM**

https://ontarioconstructionnews.com/...in-the-bushes/

Recent quotes by the Moose proponent.

acottawa · #**1065** Posted **Dec 28, 2020, 8:32 AM**

Moose is like the black knight in Holy Grail.

Truenorth00 · #**1066** Posted **Dec 28, 2020, 3:03 PM**

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Moose is like the black knight in Holy Grail.

LOL. Nailed it.

But I really want to see who these investors are who have supposedly put up $50M to buy the bridge but have no plan for a system buildout necessary to secure a return on that initial investment.

Allandale25 · #**1067** Posted **Jan 16, 2021, 6:20 PM**

https://twitter.com/rail613/status/1...510164481?s=19

J.OT13 · #**1068** Posted **Jan 17, 2021, 6:16 PM**

Thanks for posting. Good to see that an interprovincial transit link is still on the table at this point... eventually.

J.OT13 · #**1069** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 3:57 PM**

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Jim Watson
@JimWatsonOttawa

Following initial discussions with our Algonquin partners, I will be seeking your support to rename the Prince of Wales Bridge to the Chief William Commanda Bridge. He served as Chief of the Kitigan Zibi Anishinabeg First Nation ('51-'70) & was an Order of Canada recipient.

https://twitter.com/JimWatsonOttawa/...57032682840073

J.OT13 · #**1070** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 4:01 PM**

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Jon Willing
@JonathanWilling

Watson wants Prince of Wales Bridge to be renamed Chief William Commanda Bridge. He also sounds certain the city this year can start working on transforming the bridge deck into a pathway (it needs upper gov funding). Could open later this year!

10:51 AM · Jan 27, 2021·TweetDeck

https://twitter.com/JonathanWilling/...57062894424070

Capital613 · #**1071** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 4:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

https://twitter.com/JonathanWilling/...57062894424070

Can't wait to cross the bridge by bike or even walk on the bridge to bayview station to reach the airport via trilium

rocketphish · #**1072** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 6:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

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Jon Willing
@JonathanWilling

Watson wants Prince of Wales Bridge to be renamed Chief William Commanda Bridge. He also sounds certain the city this year can start working on transforming the bridge deck into a pathway (it needs upper gov funding). Could open later this year!

10:51 AM · Jan 27, 2021·TweetDeck

https://twitter.com/JonathanWilling/...57062894424070

Nope... I can't get behind this at all. What a slap in the face to the Prince of Wales! What heinous act did he ever perpetrate to merit being erased from history like that?

Can't we name something new after Chief Commanda? he's absolutely a man worth remembering.

DarkArconio · #**1073** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 6:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by rocketphish

Nope... I can't get behind this at all. What a slap in the face to the Prince of Wales! What heinous act did he ever perpetrate to merit being erased from history like that?

Can't we name something new after Chief Commanda? he's absolutely a man worth remembering.

You don't think the Prince of Wales has enough things named after him across Ottawa, let alone the rest of the world? It doesn't seem like that big of a slap in the face... He's already going be the next King of Canada, that's not enough?

Acajack · #**1074** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 6:40 PM**

I don't really care about the Prince of Wales and his name being on stuff, but did Mr. Commanda have a relationship to the city of Ottawa? I know he is from Kitizan Zibi near Maniwaki.

JayBuoy · #**1075** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 6:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by DarkArconio

You don't think the Prince of Wales has enough things named after him across Ottawa, let alone the rest of the world? It doesn't seem like that big of a slap in the face... He's already going be the next King of Canada, that's not enough?

my thoughts exactly

It's offensive that we still have the monarchy.

JayBuoy · #**1076** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 6:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by rocketphish

Nope... I can't get behind this at all. What a slap in the face to the Prince of Wales! What heinous act did he ever perpetrate to merit being erased from history like that?

Aside from being a hereditary, anti-democratic, hierarchical institution

phil235 · #**1077** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 7:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by DarkArconio

You don't think the Prince of Wales has enough things named after him across Ottawa, let alone the rest of the world? It doesn't seem like that big of a slap in the face... He's already going be the next King of Canada, that's not enough?

Which Prince of Wales is it even named after? Assuming not the current one.

rocketphish · #**1078** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 7:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by DarkArconio

You don't think the Prince of Wales has enough things named after him across Ottawa, let alone the rest of the world? It doesn't seem like that big of a slap in the face... He's already going be the next King of Canada, that's not enough?

There's all kinds of potential symbolism here (erasing the name of the Crown, just like the Crown erased indigenous rights during colonization, etc), which I'm not commenting on. I'm just against renaming things in general, unless there's an overwhelming reason to do so, because it's changing history.

In highly related news, Langevin Avenue in Vanier is about to be renamed Commanda Way. In this case the name being replaced is intrinsically linked to the creation of the residential school system. Langevin's erasure is being generally viewed as a positive thing.

This street renaming, however, falls within the purview of the City of Ottawa, unlike the POW Bridge, which is federal jurisdiction and beyond Watson's reach. But that's never stopped Jimbo from sticking his nose into federal business before. Ah... politics!

J.OT13 · #**1079** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 7:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by rocketphish

Nope... I can't get behind this at all. What a slap in the face to the Prince of Wales! What heinous act did he ever perpetrate to merit being erased from history like that?

Can't we name something new after Chief Commanda? he's absolutely a man worth remembering.

Surprised to see such a strong reaction on this.

I tend to agree that renaming roads, buildings and other infrastructure accomplishes nothing, but in this case, I feel like it's a slam dunk. I'm less enthused about renaming the Langevin Avenue in Vanier. Why do we have to rename two things for Chief Commanda in one shot? A highly visible and likely to be popular bridge and a minor residential street most people have never seen and heard about. I feel like renaming Trump Avenue is more pressing. But I'm getting off topic.

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Originally Posted by phil235

Which Prince of Wales is it even named after? Assuming not the current one.

It's named for King Edward VII, son of Queen Victoria.

DarkArconio · #**1080** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 7:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by rocketphish

There's all kinds of potential symbolism here (erasing the name of the Crown, just like the Crown erased indigenous rights during colonization, etc), which I'm not commenting on. I'm just against renaming things in general, unless there's an overwhelming reason to do so, because it's changing history.

In highly related news, Langevin Avenue in Vanier is about to be renamed Commanda Way. In this case the name being replaced is intrinsically linked to the creation of the residential school system. Langevin's erasure is being generally viewed as a positive thing.

This street renaming, however, falls within the purview of the City of Ottawa, unlike the POW Bridge, which is federal jurisdiction and beyond Watson's reach. But that's never stopped Jimbo from sticking his nose into federal business before. Ah... politics!

I agree there is value in continuing to honour those our society has chosen to honour in the past. I just also happen to think we have very many things named after members of the royal family, and it might make sense to spread the honour around to other deserving contributors to society. Not every renaming is erasure. Keeping Prince of Wales drive but renaming this bridge seems eminently reasonable.