Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 5

[delts145]

Welcome to the forum BretUtah! Thank you for the excellent updates. It will be great to have another active photographer who is living right downtown.

Also, thanks again SLC PopPunk for the update on the Post House District. It's looking good. I'm anxious to see how it will catapult that surrounding area, which has been too long ignored. Exciting times in SLC!

[scottharding]

Quick photo update on West Quarter and Paperbox:

[Blah_Amazing]

Some articles and updates on the future of the SLC Olympics for those that are interested:

https://townlift.com/2021/06/salt-lake-winter-olympic-bid-meeting-update/

https://www.thesportsexaminer.com/the-bi...usopc-to-allow-a-bid-for-the-2030-games/

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[Blah_Amazing]

The Carlton

https://citizenportal.slcgov.com/Citizen...94&agencyCode=SLCREF&IsToShowInspection=

Address: 140 E South Temple

A Commercial Building Permit has been filed for the site currently occupied by The Carlton building on South Temple.

Project Description on the filing:

58 Unit Multi-Family Residential Apartments. 5-on-1 Wood Framing Over Podium, Type IIIB Construction

If all of you remember, The Carlton, alongside the affordable housing building 'The Annex', was sold to a Chicago company Riker Capital. This resulted in the eviction of dozens of low income residents back in February and March of this year.





According to the Salt Lake County Assessor's Office, The Carlton was built in 1925, so just under a century old.



I am hoping the existing historic The Carlton isn't being demolished, but the project description doesn't give me much. So far, no demolition permits have been filed and I haven't seen anything filed with Planning on the Citizen Portal so no images of the proposed project.

The Annex

https://citizenportal.slcgov.com/Citizen...03&agencyCode=SLCREF&IsToShowInspection=

Address: 150 E South Temple

Just a refresher in case nobody posted here, a Commercial Building permit was filed a month ago for The Annex.

Project Description:

Interior remodel of existing 22 unit residential building. Reconstruction of existing front porches and new rear exterior steel stairs to replace existing wood porch system.

This had given me hope that The Carlton was going to get a similar treatment, since it seemed like the historic structures were being preserved. Now I'm not so sure.

[Atlas]

Replacing The Carlton, which is in good condition, with a generic 5-over-1 would be a tragedy (much like the Bookbinder). And I don't have a lot of confidence that the design will be anything but generic, given that it's from Architecture Belgique.

But hey, we need more housing. Let's just hope that it will have ground floor retail. There's really no excuse for it not to at that location.

[Blah_Amazing]

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Video of the fire

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News Coverage


ABC 4 Article: https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/cre...ke-city-one-reported-firefighter-injury/

KUTV Article: https://kutv.com/news/local/fire-destroys-office-building-in-sugar-house

A fire burnt down an old office building in Sugar House a couple days ago, located at around 1110 Ashton Ave. It also caused significant damage to the house that borders Fairmont Park and the small apartment building to the east.


The now destroyed office building

The area around the building is developing fast, with the Alta Terra project having been recently announced that will go in the direct vicinity.


Alta Terra (a planned project adjacent to destroyed or damaged buildings)

I am now wondering what will replace the building in the future. It's too prime of real estate to leave vacant.

What do all of you think???

[JohnGalt]

Originally Posted by Atlas

Replacing The Carlton, which is in good condition

I've been a lurker for years on this forum, thought I'd chime in as I live near 1st avenue and State Street and walk around downtown frequently.

The Carlton is nice looking on the outside but wasn't maintained very well. When the Carlton was shutting down maybe 4-5 months ago they were having a liquidation sale for all the furnishings. I went in and walked around the place. I was shocked at the poor condition of some of the rooms and I didn't know how some of the rooms could have housed paying customers. Some rooms had water damage, paint/plaster coming off walls in sheets, walls with large cracks and general disrepair/dinginess.

Also, I remember thinking that some of the larger members of society might not be able to get to upstairs rooms given the tight stairwell and micro elevator.

[bob rulz]

It's really sad that "affordable housing" is so often run-down older buildings that are cheap because landlords don't want to invest the money to peroperly maintain them.

Our entire housing system is broken from top to bottom. No local solutions will ever fully fix the housing issue in this country.

[nushiof]

https://www.buildingsaltlake.com/appeals...ensington-tower-now-known-by-a-new-name/

Hopefully the parties can settle this one quickly.

[Comrade]

I fully expect pretty much most, if not all of Salt Lake's historic apartments will be bulldozed and replaced by ugly, mediocre mid-rises in the next 30 years. There is zero preservation mindset in this community. None whatsoever, which is funny because a great deal of the people here are so associated with their past - ancestors and pioneers and all that jazz.

It's remarkable how just indifferent most Utah leaders, on both sides of the ideological spectrum, and citizens are to the history of this city and area, especially all the cool historical buildings that somehow survived the gutting of the 1960s and 70s. It's a shame and why Salt Lake will never truly feel like an urban city.

[i-215]

Originally Posted by bob rulz

Our entire housing system is broken from top to bottom. No local solutions will ever fully fix the housing issue in this country.

Obligatory plug for ending R1 zoning nationally.

Remove ALL tax benefits for non-"owner occupied" units.

Create crazy good tax benefits for developers who can push a unit out with final price affordable for the lower 2/5th household income quintiles. (It can be done. We do it with retail/office aaaaaalll the freaking time).

[cole.618]

[Marvland]

Originally Posted by nushiof

https://www.buildingsaltlake.com/appeals...ensington-tower-now-known-by-a-new-name/

Hopefully the parties can settle this one quickly.

Prescriptive easements are exceedingly difficult to win, especially in urban scenarios. If this was true, every property owner in downtown would have potential claims. Smells like a cash grab by the owners of the pawn shop and Jeanies Smoke Shop building. I'll bet they settle quick.

[Blah_Amazing]

Originally Posted by concretecole

I'm glad construction on this project is indeed progressing, I was worried for a while.

[meman]

Does anyone know what is going on with the Boston Building with all the scaffolding all the way up the entire building?

I hope they are not going to put some tacky cladding on this beautiful building!!!

[Ironweed]

Originally Posted by nushiof

https://www.buildingsaltlake.com/appeals...ensington-tower-now-known-by-a-new-name/

Hopefully the parties can settle this one quickly.

This sounds like a desperate attempt to make money.

Not only that, but these are third/fourth rate businesses that
do not belong in that area. (In my opinion.)

Plenty of lower cost rents south of 8'th South on State Street.
These skid row type businesses would fit right in down there.

I wish the developer had purchased those properties.

What a nobjob lawsuit...

[Blah_Amazing]

SL Trib: Man arrested in connection with arson fire that destroyed Salt Lake City office building
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/06/17/man-arrested-connection/



Well, it looks like the fire in Sugar House was arson, but I guess it had something to do with a weird stalker situation.

[bflatflat9]

Originally Posted by Ironweed

This sounds like a desperate attempt to make money.

Not only that, but these are third/fourth rate businesses that
do not belong in that area. (In my opinion.)

Plenty of lower cost rents south of 8'th South on State Street.
These skid row type businesses would fit right in down there.

I wish the developer had purchased those properties.

What a nobjob lawsuit...

Jeannie's is a class operation in my mind.
Marble tile floor, knowledgeable clerks, straight-ahead jazz playin', New York Times havin', wooden cabinets, yeah, I hope they stay a few more decades.

[rockies]

who wants to take one for the team and chain themselves to the Carlton?

[bob rulz]

Cool map from SLTrib

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/06/17/wondering-where-all-those/