Federal Government & Politics II

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by whatnext

LOL, still bitter about being Tesla shamed?

Using soldiers as dance props is a stupid idea. It is stupid if it was Taylor Swift or this guy. But this example clearly shows how the Liberals are importing vast numbers of voters aka unskilled labour from one part of the world and then proceeding to pander to it with government assets.

I was actually just going to say let's not start the racist accusations again as absolutely a lot of people opposed to this would have the same reaction if it was Taylor Swift. But if Taylor swift asked you better believe the military would be there. I see this more of a case of his office pointing out how big a start they were dealing with and how many people would be there.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

Or to increase space efficiency, why even rent a shared bed the whole day? Like this Brampton basement listing, 4 girls sharing one bed for $350 per person.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SlumlordsCa...o_share_a_bed/

The pride and joy of Trudeau and Katie Telford's Canada. Outrageous that the ad can be sexist against men though, not respecting equality and peoplekind.

That Expert Troll teacher with the giant fake boobs should apply and then take the slumlord to court after getting his her application rejected on the basis of gender

Agree with all of the reddit comments that say "why the fuck is this slumlord not investing in bunk beds?!?" He's not doing it right. Space is 3 dimensional. What a waste of some precious cubic meters of indoors air within the GTA!

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by casper

Well .....

It is starting to have an impact. BC post secondary institutions are not allowed to run deficits.

Actually that just proves how much Trudeau has screwed up student visas since COVID, since it's now impacting Canada's ability to attract high-quality students and scholarship in the U15.

You could cut all the visa spots to scammy public colleges (i.e. Algoma, Conestoga, Seneca) and strip mall colleges, and still have more than enough quotas for the U15 to meet the new international student targets.

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by lio45

Agree with all of the reddit comments that say "why the fuck is this slumlord not investing in bunk beds?!?" He's not doing it right. Space is 3 dimensional. What a waste of some precious cubic meters of indoors air within the GTA!

and if this slumlord had the foresight to install bunk beds in the basement, the top beds would still be rentable when it floods. Protect cap rates uber alles

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaHousi...ull_of_indian/

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

I was actually just going to say let's not start the racist accusations again as absolutely a lot of people opposed to this would have the same reaction if it was Taylor Swift. But if Taylor swift asked you better believe the military would be there. I see this more of a case of his office pointing out how big a start they were dealing with and how many people would be there.

whatnext has a long history of semi-racist posts.

[theman23]

wrong thread

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Yeah, the outrage on this really shows who the racists are.

> US military provides an entire air wing of jets and crew plus filming access to the USS Enterprise for Top Gun

"America, fuck yeah!"

> Canadian military has 100 soldiers stand during a stage show for an Indian pop star

"Is this really the best use of our resources?"

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by chowhou

> US military provides an entire air wing of jets and crew plus filming access to the USS Enterprise for Top Gun

"America, fuck yeah!"

> Canadian military has 100 soldiers stand during a stage show for an Indian pop star

"Is this really the best use of our resources?"

How can you even tie the two together it's completely nonsensical. Top Gun is an American production that projects American culture and power.

Diljit Dosanjh is a 100% foreign superstar that has no direct ties to Canada nor Canadian culture, and does not project Canadian culture or power.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

Diljit Dosanjh is a 100% foreign superstar that has no direct ties to Canada nor Canadian culture, and does not project Canadian culture or power.

It takes a special kind of weirdo to think that a pop star performing in a stadium in Canada to a Canadian audience does not project to Canadian culture.

Did you know that the director of Top Gun wasn't even American?? He was a god forsaken Brit!

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by chowhou

It takes a special kind of weirdo to think that a pop star performing in a stadium in Canada to a Canadian audience does not project to Canadian culture.

You're joking right? So Taylor Swift performing to Swifties in the Skydome for 6 concerts is a grand projection of Canadian culture?

Did you know that the director of Top Gun wasn't even American?? He was a god forsaken Brit!

The whole premise of Top Gun is based on the US Navy.

[theman23]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

From the photo they were turban wearing CAF members. Showing you can keep your heritage and serve as well. Maybe everyone already knows that and there is a tradition of serving in that community but in a lot of other communities the military has a negative reputation and showing that your community is present there is valubale in itself. It is exactly the right way to increase diversity and something we should continue.

Originally Posted by chowhou

> US military provides an entire air wing of jets and crew plus filming access to the USS Enterprise for Top Gun

"America, fuck yeah!"

> Canadian military has 100 soldiers stand during a stage show for an Indian pop star

"Is this really the best use of our resources?"

Am I missing something here? The story reports that the CAF turned the request down. The people in the photo are actors, not CAF members.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by theman23

Am I missing something here? The story reports that the CAF turned the request down. The people in the photo are actors, not CAF members.

No we missed that. Given they turned it down I guess it didn't meet their standards. I don't think Singh's office asking them to consider it is neccesarily a redflage though the refusal probably suggests it wasn't a good fit.

Regardless it seems like false outrage for the most part.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

How can you even tie the two together it's completely nonsensical. Top Gun is an American production that projects American culture and power.

Diljit Dosanjh is a 100% foreign superstar that has no direct ties to Canada nor Canadian culture, and does not project Canadian culture or power.

Whatever you think of it, our military has always gone to various cultural events both to promote the CAF and to recruit. Reserve units often do this even without much oversight from Ottawa. And this isn't a current government thing. It was true under Harper too. The target market is Canadian residents and citizens. And there was a stadium full of them.

Politicians are allowed to suggest events in their communities that they think the CAF should attend. Now if Sajjan did this to promote the CAF, it's fine. If he did this to promote his own interests, or improve his image for political purposes, then sure there are problems.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

You're joking right? So Taylor Swift performing to Swifties in the Skydome for 6 concerts is a grand projection of Canadian culture?

Why do you think the American military involves itself in the multimedia industry? Here's a hint: It's not to bolster American cultural exports. It's to market to their internal population, "Hey, join/support the military, we're cool!"

It doesn't make a difference whether the person saying that was born in Pennsylvania or Punjab.

In fact, I can basically guarantee you that if the military had a chance to have 100 soldiers dance behind Taylor Swift during her tour this year you'd see a spike in recruitment, even though she's American.

Originally Posted by theman23

Am I missing something here? The story reports that the CAF turned the request down. The people in the photo are actors, not CAF members.

My point is valid regardless of whether they did it or not. (To be honest I thought based on the tone of the conversation here they did; I do not subscribe to the G&M.)

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

Whatever you think of it, our military has always gone to various cultural events both to promote the CAF and to recruit. Reserve units often do this even without much oversight from Ottawa. And this isn't a current government thing. It was true under Harper too. The target market is Canadian residents and citizens. And there was a stadium full of them.

Politicians are allowed to suggest events in their communities that they think the CAF should attend. Now if Sajjan did this to promote the CAF, it's fine. If he did this to promote his own interests, or improve his image for political purposes, then sure there are problems.

And of course it's impossible to answer these questions. So the best response to this brouhaha is probably an eye-roll.

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by chowhou

Why do you think the American military involves itself in the multimedia industry? Here's a hint: It's not to bolster American cultural exports. It's to market to their internal population, "Hey, join/support the military, we're cool!"

It doesn't make a difference whether the person saying that was born in Pennsylvania or Punjab.

You completely underestimate the projection of American power. Top Gun is as much of an exercise to market the US Navy and its capabilities to their allies, including the Europeans, Anglopshere, Japan, Korea.

In fact, I can basically guarantee you that if the military had a chance to have 100 soldiers dance behind Taylor Swift during her tour this year you'd see a spike in recruitment, even though she's American.

In this case, what's problematic is that it's a request from the top, and his judgement and motives are questioned. It was not a bottom up initiative.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

You completely underestimate the projection of American power. Top Gun is as much of an exercise to market the US Navy and its capabilities to their allies, including the Europeans, Anglopshere, Japan, Korea.



In this case, what's problematic is that it's a request from the top, and his judgement and motives are questioned. It was not a bottom up initiative.

And it's obviously not coming out of DND marketing or recruitment priorities. He's not even the Minister of Defence.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

You completely underestimate the projection of American power. Top Gun is as much of an exercise to market the US Navy and its capabilities to their allies, including the Europeans, Anglopshere, Japan, Korea.

In this case, what's problematic is that it's a request from the top, and his judgement and motives are questioned. It was not a bottom up initiative.

Just admit you're wrong, yikes. You think the US military support for Top Gun was supposed to be a force projection towards its allies??

Why are you so hellbent on trying to prove this couldn't possibly have ever been a good idea? The military can and should market itself sometimes, c'mon. Sometimes the recommendation of where to do so might come from outside the direct military chain of command.

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by chowhou

Why do you think the American military involves itself in the multimedia industry? Here's a hint: It's not to bolster American cultural exports. It's to market to their internal population, "Hey, join/support the military, we're cool!"

It doesn't make a difference whether the person saying that was born in Pennsylvania or Punjab.

In fact, I can basically guarantee you that if the military had a chance to have 100 soldiers dance behind Taylor Swift during her tour this year you'd see a spike in recruitment, even though she's American.

Perhaps you can provide an example where the American military sponsored a foreign musical act to promote American culture.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by acottawa

Perhaps you can provide an example where the American military sponsored a foreign musical act to promote American culture.

Why? They have more than enough domestic acts, and more than enough money and support to go after larger audiences. That's just the unfortunate reality of Canada and the Canadian military compared to the Americans.

Canada is not sponsoring any war films featuring CF-18s or Leopard 2s anytime soon, I'll say that much.