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Not to mention the quality is really bad.
Yikes, where's the colour? Downtown is pretty well Black and White. The only colour is coming from the Petitcodiac!
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From today's T&T
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Moncton hotel rentals up
Thursday, November 22, 2012
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By: Brent Mazerolle

Tourism grows locally as it founders elsewhere in Maritimes

Moncton continues to buck all the downward tourism trends of the Maritime region, drawing more tourism dollars last year even as the rest of the Maritimes, says industry consultant named Rod Cunningham.

Cunningham, the president of McKellar, Cunningham and Associates, was at the regular public meeting of Moncton city council last night to give them a report card on how the city's hotels fared in 2011 and their outlook for 2012.

Last year, Cunningham told council Moncton's tourism growth in 2010 had been 'simply remarkable,' and this year he returned to say the city continued to grow its tourism in 2011 even from the previously spectacular year.

To set the stage, Cunningham noted Moncton had increased the number of hotel rooms by a whopping 35 per cent in the past decade compared to the four per cent growth in capacity in the Maritimes overall during the same period.

He also said most of that growth happened right at the worst possible time, on the eve of the North American recession.

Cunningham admitted he pre dicted disaster for Moncton hoteliers. However, demand for hotel rooms in Moncton grew by 36 per cent over the past decade, compared to the Maritime growth in demand at five per cent.

'Moncton is clearly at the top of Maritime centres,' Cunningham said. 'Even following the growth in 2010, 2011 was very strong.' The number of Moncton hotel room rentals rose by 4.5 per cent in 2011, compared to the remarkable year before. The Maritime average, by comparison, was down 0.6 per cent last year.

Cunningham noted for instance Halifax in 2011 rented 400 more room nights than it did the year before, almost a flat line, statistically speaking. Moncton on the other hand grew its total by 23,000 room nights.

One particularly impressive fact, he said, was that Moncton rented all those rooms without deep discounts in rates, as some cities have done.

From Boston to St. John's, Moncton's rooms are in the middle of the pack in price.

'Clearly you are the winner in eastern Canada once again,' he told council.

If the picture was all rosy once again, Cunningham warned there might be thorns to watch for. First of all, he said in a down market economy, the only way to grow market share is to steal someone else's, and the price of Moncton being a head above the rest is that its head is sticking up for other cities to try and knock down.

'Don't become complacent, because you have become a target,' he said. 'Continue to raise the bar. It shows confidence and often it works and you are good at it.' He also said shopping is no longer the major force driving retail, now that many other Maritime centres are offering most of the same stores Metro Moncton has, However, when asked by councillors what the secret was, be it events and sport tourism, shopping, bilingual service or even the opening of Casino New Brunswick, Cunningham said he believed the appeal, 'is the Moncton package overall.' For instance, even though shopping is no longer a unique appeal, it is still a value added experience. Speaking of one of his own experiences staying in a Moncton hotel during an old timer's hockey tournament, where whole families came to town instead of just the players and he saw wives laden down with shopping bags on every trip through the lobby.

Wives didn't tell their husbands to go off and have a good time the way they might when the team is going to many other cities. Instead they said, 'I'm coming with you.' Cunningham said visits to Moncton area tourist attractions were up 6.2 per cent last year, while New Brunswick tourist attractions overall saw a seven per cent decline.

In the bigger picture, 'you won (posted the most growth) in every segment of the market,' he said, be it the Quebec market, American market, international or regional market.
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Madly off in all the wrong directions
Thursday, November 22, 2012
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We Say: Council hears how to succeed, then does opposite on same night

On Monday prominent tourism consultant Rod Cunningham told Moncton City Council their city had a great year in 2011, made spectacular by the fact it had continued to grow from a record-breaking 2010.

Yet previous to 2010 Mr. Cunningham had predicted disaster for hoteliers in Moncton. The city had increased the number of hotel rooms 35 per cent over the previous decade compared to just four per cent for the Maritimes overall, but because much of the building had taken place right around the time of the 2008 recession it looked as if many of those new rooms would be empty. Yet demand outpaced production by a point - 36 per cent compared to just five per cent in the rest of the region.

Mr. Cunningham was asked how the city managed to pull off this miracle and he told council, in short, that Moncton is a 'package destination.' Where others have followed our footsteps as a regional retail centre, Moncton has stayed ahead by offering urban tourism attractions. That's not just traditional draws like water parks, casinos and hockey that others have, but big events like Magnetic Hill, the CFL and world junior track and field.

What a sad irony it is to have such an expert send such a message to such a council as this, which on that same night announced it is considering a second downgrade from the original concept of a downtown events centre; from as many as 15,000 seats to as few as 7,500.

Surely some members of council are able, apparently unlike the city manager's office from which it receives advice, to connect the dots. Surely they understand it was the vision of the late Ian Fowler and his supporters what led to full hotels, and their tax revenue.

Mr. Cunningham also told council not to rest on its laurels. Yet acts like Cirque du Soleil and Carrie Underwood are now going to Saint John instead of Moncton.

Somehow, someone has to get the right message to this council; that success is about competing well with other centres, and with providing entrepreneurs a chance to make money. Right now, they don't get it.
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Residential permits lead construction
Thursday, November 22, 2012
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By: James Foster

Residential permits in October almost double of one year ago

Home and apartment builders took out almost $9 million worth of building permits in Moncton in October, an increase of 93 per cent over the same month a year ago.

The year-to-date value of residential construction permits issued in Moncton up to the end of October stands at more than $73.5 million, compared to $64.7 million at the same time last year, the City of Moncton says.

The commercial and industrial categories pulled their weight in October as well, with 25 permits issued with a net value of more than $14.3 million, up from $3.9 million in October of last year, an increase of 269 per cent.

Some big-ticket permits issued last month include the second phase of construction for the Transportation Discovery Centre at the Moncton Museum, and a new Fairfield Inn & Suites by Marriott just off Harrisville Boulevard, each worth more than $5 million.

The Marriott project is particularly noteworthy, said Sherry Sparks, the city's director of building inspection.

'The hotel is based on Marriott's new Generation 4 prototype and will be the first full Generation 4 property to open in Canada,' Sparks said.

'The project features innova tive construction practices - for example, the second, third and fourth-floor guest rooms are being built in modules, off-site.' The installation of the modules and roof should take approximately one or two weeks. The four-storey hotel will offer 82 guest rooms along with meeting space, an indoor pool and water slides. The hotel is slated to open in the spring.

Four permits were issued in the category of institutional and government, for a value of $468,000, up 53 per cent from October of last year.

When broken down, October's per mit figures show the number of residential permits rose 18.4 per cent compared to the same month last year; the number of residential units rose 66.7 per cent and the value of the permits is up 93 per cent.

The number of institutional and government permits rose 300 per cent, though that represents an increase to four this past October from one permit issued in the same month last year, while the value of those permits was up 53 per cent, to $469,000 from $307,000.

The number of commercial and industrial permits rose 38.9 per cent while the value of those permits rose 269 per cent, to slightly more than $14 million from just less than $4 million.

In total, the number of all permits issued in October rose 12.4 per cent compared to the same month last year, while the value of those permits is up 165 per cent over the same month last year.
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Moncton CFO Pleased With City's Debt Level

Despite widespread spending and development, John Martin says city has done well in keeping debt ratio low

Although the City of Moncton has seen a flurry of new development and spending in recent years, with more coming on the horizon, the city's chief financial officer said the municipality is in good shape and has maintained a manageable level of debt that isn't cause for concern.

'You think of the things that have been built and you think of all the roadwork, you think of the parks and trails and transportation, the Discovery Centre, the Kay-Crossman, there's been a lot of exciting things that have happened in the city and we've been able to hold a very good debt ratio throughout those periods,' said John Martin. 'It's the same thing with the utilities. The quality of water in Moncton, you look at the fact that the long-term perspective we've taken in developing the second dam is to ensure there is a good supply of water and work has been done on our sewer system. It's all that type of thing that show Moncton has been very determined to keep our assets in good shape and to continue to grow with the city.' The City of Moncton finalized its 2013 capital budget last week. It includes $49.1 million in total spending, although that number includes more than $11 million in recoveries, typically from cost-sharing with the provincial and federal governments on eligible projects.

Through it all, Martin said the city is likely to be able to maintain a reasonable debt ratio.

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Sorry if this seems a stupid question (this photo was posted in the Skyehalifax thread), and I wanted to ask how all these parking lots came to exist. Did they replace some nice old buildings, or were they previously undeveloped land? I thought it better to pose the question here in this thread.


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Although I wouldn't mind at all if Moncton were to reach such great heights with its residential developments...I think focusing on in-fill, and replacing the horrid amount of surface parking lots in the downtown with density instead of allowing the majority of development to go to Moncton's expanding business parks and residential subdivisions, is more rational....

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The areas south of Main St were formerly heavily industrial. There used to be docks on the shore of the Petitcodiac River (back when the river was navigable), and there were railway sidings and warehouses in that area. After about the 1950's, the warehouses became derelict and were torn down. They were replaced by the surface parking.

It is my greatest hope that sometime in my lifetime that high density infill will occur between Main and Assomption Blvd. This is why I think Moncton has so much potential. There are not many cities growing as rapidly as Moncton that has so much land available for development so close to downtown. All we need is a catalyst which, as far as I'm concerned, should be a new downtown events centre.
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That's a sad thing. I didn't know the river changed like that. On the very positive side, it means that this will provide lots of land for redevelopment like you said; it will happen eventually, and there will be a need for parking garages.
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The Peticodiac was never the Rhine, but it has seen better days. It's about 1/3 wider today than it was about 3 years ago though thanks to the opening of the causeway gates. The provincial government has had plans for quite a while to remove a large section of the causeway to further free up the natural flow of the tide. Every time it comes in and leaves, it brings a bit of the accumulated silt out with it. It will always be a tidal river surrounded by mudflats though, which is always important to keep in mind.

I'll be the first to admit that the infill isn't happening as quickly as we'd all like, but it's entirely unfair to say that it isn't happening or that downtown isn't improving. It'll take -a lot- of development to completely rid downtown of parking lots though. That said, we're picking away at it 4 or 5 buildings a year. The past couple of years have seen a big increase in the amount of infill housing going in, which has been entirely comprised of medium sized 4-floor apartment buildings replacing detached single-family homes.

As for parking garages, it's something that is certainly on the city's radar. The cost of land means we've been able to get away with smaller projects that can use existing parking. As lots fill up and prices increase though, that too will change.
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While I would be as happy as anyone else to seen the gates removed and a partial bridge installed at the causeway, at a cost of about $100M and with the complete reticence on the part of the feds to make any form of financial contribution (even though this mess is largely their fault), I have little hope of this project ever seeing the light of day.

In truth, if the province were to invest $100M in the Moncton area, I can easily think of other projects that would take precedence over this one.
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While I would be as happy as anyone else to seen the gates removed and a partial bridge installed at the causeway, at a cost of about $100M and with the complete reticence on the part of the feds to make any form of financial contribution (even though this mess is largely their fault), I have little hope of this project ever seeing the light of day.

In truth, if the province were to invest $100M in the Moncton area, I can easily think of other projects that would take precedence over this one.
I agree...it has to be a joint production (municipal/prov/Fed) in order to get this done, but it needs to get done. The River has recovered amazingly over the last three years, it's deeper, wider, the tidal bore is higher...imagine what could happen if it was free flowing again...

I agree though, the cost is staggering...bridges are so expensive...
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I see that the new Fairfield Inn by Marriott is now up on the Marriott.com website; lots of stuff going around on the construction site planned for the hotel. Opening April 2013. Great news & addition! Maybe someday we will have have a full-fledged, full-service Marriott hotel in Moncton, the events centre would only help this possibility.
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This is the link to the website listing and describing all the revised routes on the new and improved Codiac Transit system:

http://www.codiactranspo.ca/SCHEDULESMAPS.htm

This map shows all the routes laid out:



In essence, they are trading increased service frequency and a larger coverage area for a system requiring more bus to bus transfers. They are promising better connections with less waiting at transfer points. I guess we will have to wait and see if they are successful with this approach....
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This is the link to the website listing and describing all the revised routes on the new and improved Codiac Transit system:

http://www.codiactranspo.ca/SCHEDULESMAPS.htm

This map shows all the routes laid out:

In essence, they are trading increased service frequency and a larger coverage area for a system requiring more bus to bus transfers. They are promising better connections with less waiting at transfer points. I guess we will have to wait and see if they are successful with this approach....
They just couldn't go the extra 200M to the airport huh...
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Total speculation, but it may have to do with the relationships between the city, airport authority and the taxi companies.

I know it isn't uncommon for airports to charge taxi operators to pick people up. I've even heard of some airports that limit the number of taxis on the ground at any given time.

But again, I really don't know. The city may also be concerned with rider frequency to/from the airport. The airport sees around 575k passengers through every year, which is 1575 per day on average. i don't think it's crazy to say that a third of them are coming from outside of the city. So you've got 1000 people going every day. But they come in spurts...4 flights leave within 45 minutes around 6am, and that's before busses even start to run. Then you've got people who aren't going to want to lug their bags onto a potentially crowded bus.

Long story short, I'd be shocked if you had 100 people in an entire day who'd be willing or able to go to/from the airport by bus. Hardly a burning demand worth sending a bus every 45 minutes for.

I'm really happy to see they're expanding service to the industrial parks. Dieppe especially was completely lacking in service.
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The areas south of Main St were formerly heavily industrial. There used to be docks on the shore of the Petitcodiac River (back when the river was navigable), and there were railway sidings and warehouses in that area. After about the 1950's, the warehouses became derelict and were torn down. They were replaced by the surface parking.

It is my greatest hope that sometime in my lifetime that high density infill will occur between Main and Assomption Blvd. This is why I think Moncton has so much potential. There are not many cities growing as rapidly as Moncton that has so much land available for development so close to downtown. All we need is a catalyst which, as far as I'm concerned, should be a new downtown events centre.
A catalyst is not necessary to spark the downtown's prosperity into action. That economic flame would already be burning if conditions were right -- if developers didn't have endless, cheap land on which to build in the Moncton area's expanding business parks and residential subdivisions.

Even if the downtown events centre happens, the vastness of the area's business parks/res suburbs will quickly blow that economic flame out. Developers have absolutely no reason to establish themselves downtown when it's cheaper elsewhere.

Over time, perhaps downtown Moncton can be filled with three or four-storey suburban style wooden apartment buildings.
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I agree...it has to be a joint production (municipal/prov/Fed) in order to get this done, but it needs to get done. The River has recovered amazingly over the last three years, it's deeper, wider, the tidal bore is higher...imagine what could happen if it was free flowing again...

I agree though, the cost is staggering...bridges are so expensive...
Although I consider myself to be an environmentalist, as any rational person should be, because our economy depends on a stable environment: my main reason for wanting the restoration of the Petitcodiac River is so Moncton can once again attract a shipping industry.

Cargo ships... Cruise ships... You name it. Regardless: it means more jobs.

To encourage an urban culture of walking, a restored river would mean a ferry service may be established as well. There is certainly a market in Riverview of people who wish to live there, yet do not want to drive all the time (or drive at all )
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The Petitcodiac was never the Rhine. It's always been a muddy tidal river surrounded by muddy tidal flats. Even if the causeway were never built it would still look quite similar to what it is today. I agree that restoring the river as best we can is something that needs to be done for environmental reasons, but let's not pretend the river is or could be something that it isn't. We'll never see sea-bound cargo brought up. It barely makes sense to bring container traffic to Saint John. We'll definitely never see a ferry to Riverview unless it's a hovercraft; putting a dock on the far side would be another environmental disaster in its own right.
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The Petitcodiac was never the Rhine. It's always been a muddy tidal river surrounded by muddy tidal flats. Even if the causeway were never built it would still look quite similar to what it is today. I agree that restoring the river as best we can is something that needs to be done for environmental reasons, but let's not pretend the river is or could be something that it isn't. We'll never see sea-bound cargo brought up. It barely makes sense to bring container traffic to Saint John. We'll definitely never see a ferry to Riverview unless it's a hovercraft; putting a dock on the far side would be another environmental disaster in its own right.
Ohhhh, so I guess all the seniors in Moncton who tell me about oil tankers sailing down the river must be lying through their false teeth.

Regardless, no causeway would mean a wider river, which can at least translate into cruise ships.

And I was just brainstorming ideas. I also don't think a ferry service, hovercraft or otherwise, will ever be established, because: (a) the river will never be repaired, and (b) the Moncton area will remain sprawled and the downtown won't densify significantly.
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I never said cargo wasn't brought in before. Moncton actually had somewhat of a shipbuilding industry around the end of the age of sail. What I meant is it won't happen again. It's much more economical to ship cargo in large vessels - so large in fact that work is being done to double the width of the Panama Canal. As for oil, you're quite right that tankers used to be brought up river, which brings up another point. There's zero infrastructure to handle it. No docks, no quays, no warehouses, no tanks.

A cruise industry would be interesting, but again the lack of infrastructure would be a big kicker. You've made it abundantly clear that you're opposed to cities in New Brunswick spending any money with debt. The river would need significant dredging. Biggest problem if you ask me though is the fact that the river is pretty unnatractive as far as rivers go. I'd sooner spend my money visiting port cities with character with spectacular harbours like St. John's and Halifax than gazing at the sweeping vistas of the Outhouse Point mudflats!

That's not to say the waterfront could use a lot of work and also has a lot of potential. There's next to no residential on the Moncton-side of the river between the causeway and Dieppe (a ways inland). On the Riverview side however, there has been quite a bit of development, especially apartments and condominiums. Granted, the view from Riverview is a lot nicer, but that doesn't mean there isn't demand for housing in the area. As I've said before, I think the biggest constraint on development there is the cost of land in other parts of the city being low enough that the extra expense of building downtown is harder to justify.

You also have the issue of provincial environmental policy to contend with. I'm all for preserving ecologically sensitive land, but some policies coming out of Fredericton have made it pretty much impossible to build something within 10 meters of a puddle after a rainstorm. Pretty well the whole waterfront on the Moncton side is either reclaimed land, reconstituted landfill, potentially contaminated former industrial sites, or marsh.
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